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cbspd3flip 01-16-2013 09:58 PM

Well stock clutch it was nice knowing you
 
Well at 51k miles my stocker started to slip. First noticed while ripping through 4th into 5th on the highway earlier tonight.

I'm debating on either replacing with the 6 puck from edge or stocking out, sell and pick up something else. That something else would be a ms6 or just get an evo x. AWD FTW!


For those of you wondering on why I am contemplating on getting a new car. I was just hired by another company. My pay is going up 3-4x what I am making now. There is a thread here just search. Now I probably will be getting an Evo X in the future, however I just may use this as an excuse to get one now and put the 1k for the clutch into the new car.

SWAY 01-17-2013 03:37 AM

Evo

tappin from the Note II

MS3MYK 01-17-2013 03:56 AM

An Evo X is all out??? Lmao

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cbspd3flip 01-17-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MS3MYK (Post 1843026)
An Evo X is all out??? Lmao

Sent using my EVO LTE on tappy

For my pocket right now, yes.

TRex 01-17-2013 06:46 AM

lol

"i dont want to spend 1k to fix my clutch so maybe i should buy a new car!"

what happens when you need to replace your windshield wipers on your new car?

cbspd3flip 01-17-2013 06:50 AM

Ok I'm going to edit my OP so you guys understand my situation a little bit better lol

MazdaBoy2.3 01-17-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cbspd3flip (Post 1843121)
Ok I'm going to edit my OP so you guys understand my situation a little bit better lol

Congrats on the new job. Even if you were making shit for money and you multiply it by 4 it's a lot!

cbspd3flip 01-17-2013 07:59 AM

@TRex; didn't mean to groan you man. Hit the wrong button lol


Ohh to answer your question: I just buy another car! Lmao

alphasaur 01-17-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MS3MYK (Post 1843026)
An Evo X is all out??? Lmao

Sent using my EVO LTE on tappy

considering that the fq400 can keep up with a lambo around a track, sure.

op: if making 3-4x as much, why not keep the ms3 fix the clutch and then get an evo VIII or IX? I'd also consider a mustang gt, they're hawt.

jv92red 01-17-2013 08:16 AM

51K and already need a new clutch? I'm at 60K and guess i'm on borrowed time then. Every other car I've owned before this one has gone at least 100k before needing a clutch.

alphasaur 01-17-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jv92red (Post 1843258)
51K and already need a new clutch? I'm at 60K and guess i'm on borrowed time then. Every other car I've owned before this one has gone at least 100k before needing a clutch.

I was at 86k on mine before I swapped out. I only swapped out because I was switching my transmission, so might as well. There are a good amount of people over 100k on stock clutch.

chuckms6 01-17-2013 08:22 AM

116k on mine and no signs of trouble. Had the Trans off and it looked so good I didn't even replace it lol. You're doing something wrong!

Tapatalking

SneakySin 01-17-2013 08:25 AM

I got 105K on my stock clutch and it grabs high but it doesnt seem to slip. People keep recommending I change it though. Thought about gettin a new old before i get tuned in the spring

TRex 01-17-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cbspd3flip (Post 1843219)
@TRex; didn't mean to groan you man. Hit the wrong button lol


Ohh to answer your question: I just buy another car! Lmao

ah np, was just stirring shit, congrats on all the new baller money =D

since we are on the subject i just rolled over 50k yesterday, everything feels fine for me

cbspd3flip 01-17-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckms6 (Post 1843272)
116k on mine and no signs of trouble. Had the Trans off and it looked so good I didn't even replace it lol. You're doing something wrong!

Tapatalking

My car was in an accident, also who knows what PO did to car. I purchased with 24k on the clock. So it could be going out early due to both of those reasons.

Out of three vehicles this is the earliest I've ever had a clutch go on me. Ohh well.

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Originally Posted by alphasaur (Post 1843226)
considering that the fq400 can keep up with a lambo around a track, sure.

op: if making 3-4x as much, why not keep the ms3 fix the clutch and then get an evo VIII or IX? I'd also consider a mustang gt, they're hawt.

Now that I'm thinking about it more, I might just do that. I would love a white evo IX sitting in my garage.

Dizzy Turbo 01-17-2013 10:08 AM

Orrrrrr a wwp ms6!

boostdmazda3 01-17-2013 10:11 AM

I would get an evo IX over the X. I am at 83k miles on stock clutch btw.

chuckms6 01-17-2013 10:16 AM

The evo X stock clutch is prone to overheating. I've had a few bow out of dig races because of it :-)

Tapatalking

cbspd3flip 01-18-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckms6 (Post 1843505)
The evo X stock clutch is prone to overheating. I've had a few bow out of dig races because of it :-)

Tapatalking

I did not know this. See you learn something every day haha.




Well more than likely (99% sure) I will be replacing the clutch. Trying to get a hold of Edge to see if they can offer a better price on the ACT 6 puck w/ prolite considering Streetunit has them priced considerably lower. Also whoever can get one to me the fastest will get my money cause I need to drive to Georgia (from PA) in 4 weeks.

stuntz89 01-18-2013 10:55 PM

My stocker just went at 94k...... If you keep the 3 get the ACT... You won't regret it

Pm"d you op

Matrix311 01-19-2013 12:20 AM

I'm at 84k miles on stock clutch with a gtx3071r

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cbspd3flip 01-19-2013 07:35 PM

Well I ordered an ACT 6 puck w/prolite. Hoping to rip everything apart and have the new one in, in one weekend.

Matrix311 02-04-2013 11:57 AM

How's it going? Did you get the replacement installed and working yet? How was the install? Did you do it on jackstands or did you have access to a lift? What made you choose the prolite vs the streetlite flywheel option?

Dash08 02-04-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix311 (Post 1875588)
How's it going? Did you get the replacement installed and working yet? How was the install? Did you do it on jackstands or did you have access to a lift? What made you choose the prolite vs the streetlite flywheel option?

Yes. We need these questions answered as I am probably gonna be swapping my clutch soon as well.

cbspd3flip 02-04-2013 03:35 PM

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...nstall-135546/

I ended up just having my mechanic doing it. For one we trust him and does very good work and two, he quoted me an excellent price.

Well my car is still at my mechanics garage. Been there since Thursday. So that's how it's going.

Long story short;
1) Mechanic and his assistant had car apart ready to pull trans on Thursday last week.
2) Assistant doesn't show up to work Friday morning, Mike (mechanic) can't get in touch with him all day so nothing gets done. Turns out he was in the hospital all day.
3) He doesn't work weekends.
4) Assistant comes back up to work today. They have new clutch in and are finally reassembling car. I "should" have it back tomorrow.

I will make a thread on my opinions/thoughts on how the new clutch feels and everything once I drive it around for a bit.

cbspd3flip 02-04-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrix311 (Post 1875588)
Did you do it on jackstands or did you have access to a lift? What made you choose the prolite vs the streetlite flywheel option?

I was going to do it on jackstands with a few nator pa guys.

I really couldn't tell you why I bought one over the other. I just did.

Dash08 02-04-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cbspd3flip (Post 1876040)
I really couldn't tell you why I bought one over the other. I just did.

This is peculiar.

There must have been some reason.

This isn't like voting for a president where you equally hate both candidates that are most likely to win.

Something must have swayed you.

cbspd3flip 02-04-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash08 (Post 1876370)
This is peculiar.

There must have been some reason.

This isn't like voting for a president where you equally hate both candidates that are most likely to win.

Something must have swayed you.

IIRC, every thread that I have seen about the six puck, the person had gotten the pro-lite and given it good reviews. That probably has sub-consciously swayed me towards the pro-lite.

I know that is not much to go on, but when the options came up for which one to purchase, I immediately went for the kit with the pro-lite. I didn't even debate the two.



Or because racecar...

cld12pk2go 02-04-2013 07:26 PM

My stocker started slipping around 400wtq...

My ACT ZX4-HDSS clutch has held great ever since at up to 470wtq...

jm211 02-04-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrix311 (Post 1875588)
Did you do it on jackstands or did you have access to a lift? What made you choose the prolite vs the streetlite flywheel option?


Prolite: super light; lowest inertia; super fast throttle response; rpm's rise and drop very quickly. Good for road racing or auto xing - that's about it. Sucks for launching/drag racing as its hard to feather it. Sucks in stop and go city traffic and stop and go on hills.

Streetlite is still lighter than stock so there will still be reduced drive-ability but not so exacerbated as the prolite.


As for the clutch, Jack stands are just as easy i think. Get it nice and high - drop the subframe, shift linkage, axles and remainder of the plugs/harnesses. Grab an engine hoist/support leveler and remove rmm and tranny mount. loosen the PMM and drop the turd out. sounds fun!

cbspd3flip 02-04-2013 07:36 PM

Every car is different as we all know.

I was chatting with a few guys at the last Nator PA meet. Told them I bought my car as an R title with 24k miles. We were thinking the previous owner was some douchebag kid who beat the shit out of the car. Stupid me for buying it, but couldn't pass an awesome deal up.

I'd bet if I parted out or had finkle back some boost and timing off my tune, the stock clutch would hold fine. I didn't want to do that though.

alphasaur 02-04-2013 07:43 PM

fwiw I have a prolite

I hate it. Hills suck and if I hit a stop sign with more than 1 car in front of me I slash my wrists.

It's butt.

Also, I never thought the stock speed 3 clutch was bad....and everyone seems to think it is.

jm211 02-04-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by alphasaur (Post 1876481)
Also, I never thought the stock speed 3 clutch was bad....and everyone seems to think it is.

It amuses me because many people bitches about the stock clutch being so on/off. Then they are the one's saying a 10 pound flywheel is the shit.

To each their own!

alphasaur 02-04-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jm211 (Post 1876485)
It amuses me because many people bitches about the stock clutch being so on/off. Then they are the one's saying a 10 pound flywheel is the shit.

To each their own!

lol, I drove another stock speed after getting used to the prolite

I came.

Then I had to go back to the prolite :sad2:

cbspd3flip 02-04-2013 08:38 PM

I really didn't have a problem with the stock clutch engagement. In fact to me I think it could have been a little more on/off, but that's just me and my driving style.

chuckms6 02-04-2013 08:53 PM

mastering the contact point brought me closer to my car

Ckmazdaspeed3 02-04-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1843111)
lol

"i dont want to spend 1k to fix my clutch so maybe i should buy a new car!"

what happens when you need to replace your windshield wipers on your new car?

If you help, he will need a whole new fucking windshield haha!!!... can't believe you mentioned windshield wipers for your comparison!

TRex 02-04-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ckmazdaspeed3 (Post 1876582)
If you help, he will need a whole new fucking windshield haha!!!... can't believe you mentioned windshield wipers for your comparison!

hey man! i asked if you wanted me to pay for that =p but no no, you are just going to hold it over me forever instead haha

Ckmazdaspeed3 02-04-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1876603)
hey man! i asked if you wanted me to pay for that =p but no no, you are just going to hold it over me forever instead haha

yeah, that was the plan... come on though, you totally set yourself up for that... It's just funny cuz i've only been on the forum like once a month for the past few months and this was the second thread I browsed!

cbspd3flip 02-10-2013 11:03 PM

Update. Picked car up on Friday. Have about a 100 miles or so on the clutch. I have some chatter in 1st starting out from a stop and downshifts w/o rev match are a little rough, both are manageable. Other than that, it's going good. I'm doing a soft break-in, basically 400-500 miles of easy driving.

I will be doing a review thread in the next day or so, so keep a look out for it.


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