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 Old 10-29-2009, 11:45 AM   #41
 
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Originally Posted by ms3077 View Post
Use an air duster (like the ones used for cleaning electronics) to blow off dirt/ debris. After this use a mild detergent under cool water to clean / rinse the filter clean. Let dry naturally or sit next to a fan; don't blow dry under heat! Re-apply thin layer of oil if it's an oiled filter like Cobb's; don't over oil!
cool now i have the HKS suction intake, its like a sponge filter do i still need oil on that?
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I've driven both an MS3 with only an SRI and an MS3 with only a CAI.

From first hand experience (based off of driving and feel), the CAI had more mid range torque than the SRI. The SRI pulled harder up top than the CAI.

Obviously this is not technical data, but it's also not just mumbo jumbo. This is how the car FELT in real driving situations with real world conditions and variables.

I still agree that performance differences between the two are extremely minimal though.

As far as water hazards for a CAI, there have been several documented cases of hydrolock due to a CAI.
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Originally Posted by glocK23 View Post
Does it even matter about temperature? I mean that shit is negligible , it's all going into a hot ass turbo regardless.


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It might very well be close to negligible, but the fact is the air dosen't heat up from going through the turbo, it heats up because it's being compressed. The turbo is so small and the air traveling fast that it barely has time to dissipate heat to the air through it. Starting with cooler air means coming out with cooler air.
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This discussion is so tired.

Why don't you guys just take the word from experienced members?

We've been working on this car for awhile, we know what's up. We're way past this intake shit. The results are all over this forum. You have to search.

For the record, your temperature difference between the CAI and SRI is about 1-3 degrees. You'll lose that during air compression, no matter how quick.
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i just turned my aem cai into a short ram today. i put a differnet filter on it as the regular aem is way long, it was real easy to disassemble didnt even have to put the car on a rack. so far they feel about the same short ram is cool because the spool noise is a little louder, which i personally love hearing ,over the bumble bee droning exhausts i hear from all the hondas i work with. ill whomp it tommorow now that i put a few miles on her since reseting the battery and really test it.
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cant go wrong with either.. just leave it at that.. i like both.. i bought a cpe cai when cobb had a 2-3 month back order and they weren't giving a set date when they would be available and i wasn't gonna get the pos hks so i bought the cai
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Originally Posted by silverspd3 View Post
cant go wrong with either.. just leave it at that.. i like both.. i bought a cpe cai when cobb had a 2-3 month back order and hey weren't giving a set date when they would be available and i wasn't gonna get the pos hks so i bought the cai
This is the bottom line here people.

Both intake systems get the job done equally well. Which ever one you choose, expect about 20 more horsepower!! It's awesome!!!
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i wonder how many CAI vs SRI debates are out there.... but there is NOT MUCH differences. it all depends the size of your freaking wallet!
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As far as water hazards for a CAI, there have been several documented cases of hydrolock due to a CAI.
Could you please document these please? I can't seem to find those cases for the MS3. I did track down one poster's claim of proof from a dealer in SOCAL, but the dealer's service department knew nothing about it.

I'd like to to check out that data, if it's not too much trouble.
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Could you please document these please? I can't seem to find those cases for the MS3. I did track down one poster's claim of proof from a dealer in SOCAL, but the dealer's service department knew nothing about it.

I'd like to to check out that data, if it's not too much trouble.
You actually thought the service department would disclose that information to some random telephone call?

One of the reasons the service manager shared that information with me is because I have been doing business with him for a long time.
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If you don't mind, would you please disclose to us exactly what he told you?

BTW: my contact was more than one single phone call. And I did disclose that this issue was being discussed on this and other boards and we were interested in obtaining verification of whether they did have a true documented incident of hydrolock engine damage due to the MSCAI, and the circumstances under which it occurred.
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I still dont see how you hydrolock the engine unless your driving like an ass and your in boost while your going through a lake. I completely submerged my cai in my other car and all it did was cut the engine. I restarted it 5 times submerged to get out of the danger area(flash flood never saw it coming) and continued to drive home. Pulled plugs and no water. Unless your in boost the car just shouldnt be able to suck up enough water prior to choking itself.

There are a few people on here that claim their car hydrolocked, but mostly its "a friend of mine blah blah blah on his civic that sits 1/2" off the ground"
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If you don't mind, would you please disclose to us exactly what he told you?

BTW: my contact was more than one single phone call. And I did disclose that this issue was being discussed on this and other boards and we were interested in obtaining verification of whether they did have a true documented incident of hydrolock engine damage due to the MSCAI, and the circumstances under which it occurred.
Why even waste the time? You still won't believe me.

Pointless.
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I have had both a SRI and a CAI, they both make power and you won't be able to tell the difference.

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The one with the biggest sticker=Biggest gains. That's proven!
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The one with the biggest sticker=Biggest gains. That's proven!
This man speaks the truth. Everyone knows that strategically placed performance stickers always add power.
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I have had both a SRI and a CAI, they both make power and you won't be able to tell the difference.


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LETS TALK ABOUT SOUND, WICH ONE IS LOUDER AND HAS A BETTER TURBO SPOOL SOUND? THATS WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE LOVE FROM INSTALLING AN INTAKE ON THE MS3 OR MS6
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Go with the SRI. Getting in slightly cooler air isn't going to help all that much anyways since it's just going to get into the turbo, get compressed, and get hot again.. Like someone else said on here.. invest in an FMIC and get an SRI.
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I've had both. CAI sounded like a vacuum. SRI you hear a clean turbo spool. All other things considered, it's no contest to me. SRI wins hands down
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Go with the SRI. Getting in slightly cooler air isn't going to help all that much anyways since it's just going to get into the turbo, get compressed, and get hot again.. Like someone else said on here.. invest in an FMIC and get an SRI.
100% agree, get a SRI and a FMIC. The SRI sounds better, can't suck up water, its cheaper, easier to install...the temperature differences in intakes are negligible compared to the difference a FMIC makes over a TMIC. COBB SRI + CX FMIC = about $725 total = W1N
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CAI gives you a bit more power. on the top end. i have done a number of runs against my friend. when i had my cai then with my sri. vs his sri.

when i had my cai. we were even up to 80, everytime. but then i would began to creep ahead after 80. when i switched my MSCAI to sri mode or after switching to my cpe sri. he and i were even the whole way. everytime.

so cai gives alitle more power on the top end but the throttle response is sloppier b.c the air has a longer route to travel. i never worried about hydrolocking and i live in Central Fl where it rains all the time.

sri, the throttle response is crisp and will work easier with fmic but will suck in the hot engine bay temps. so intake temps are alittle higher on SRI. but its comes down to personal preference.

i switched from cai to sri. but both are good


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IMO--Sure motorsports SRI> Cobb Sri.. where cobb uses plastic Sure uses aluminum.. Sure built their design off of Cobbs. BTW..you never need to worry about hydrolock with an SRI... you can NEVER say the same with a CAI. my $.02
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I got the Corksport Intake System. Its a SRI and TIP, for $250 shipped. I loved the fact that I could customize the colors of each section.
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