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Why would you go with a holset after hearing about the massive lag and poor transient response? Sent from my your mom's face on my junk
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Because everyone that has used one hasnt matched it to the car, diesels have generally low egts and low exhaust flow and they spool them just fine. This isnt a hokset turbo thread though. I have now basically completely unshouded the wg flapper and smoothed everything out. My thinking is that if you can get the exhaust through the turbine efficiently and through the wg efficiently it shouldnt be able to back up and blow the wg open and make the boost uncontrollable. The turbine itself should be good for 550-600ish but this housing is really a pile.
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the problem is you cant port the flutes inside the housing. thats where the flow really gets choked. theres plenty of people making big power on the ATP hotsides.
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From his wording though, I'm guessing it's either IWG or EWG on the mani
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Its IWG sorry. I looked at the flute and it *seems* ok. I took ALOT of material out of the EM flange/iwg area. In a couple spots im kinda worried about the strength now, but there is really alot of material in some areas that can be taken out with no worries.
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I posted some pretty decent pics of the porting I had done to mine. I get no creep at all. 3071r build
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Yours is ported just a little more and they smoothed everything out better than mine, maybe ill hit it with a burr again and see if I can make it prettier
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i never ported mine and get reverse creep... :S 
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So I figured out that if you port the wg hole enough the flapper gets stuck on it and may not close all the way.
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ooooo....that sucks luckily a nice dude on here sold me his for $100 shipped, so I'm sure you can find another one.
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I figured it out, I put a bevel on the flapper itself and it seats fine now.
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Here is the porting that a buddy of mine did for me. I just picked it up from him on Monday. I also have the gtx3071r. Photos here. http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ml#post1729258
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i ported mine a lot, just stuck some magnets on there to help with the shavings and went to town, no creep on initial set up: UR catted DP - HTP 3" intake - ETS TMIC. However switching to a front mount i did see boost drop a little, as is to be expected, but when i added a 4" intake i was creeping about 2 psi (8 psi wastegate spring but seeing 10-10.5 psi). intake side effects creep just as much as exhaust side it seems.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Matrix311 that looks like a nice port job, looks like I need to take more metal out!
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