Gen1 SWIFT SPRINGS INTEREST THREAD

[specvspeedfreak]

Some might know I started the interest for SWIFT springs for the MS3 and gen2 guys ended up getting the better end of the stick. I am taking the liberty in seeing how much interest there really is for the Gen1. You can also "like" them on facebook and let them know yourself if you'd like (Swift is asking what spring they should make next). Swift Springs | Facebook

The good thing is they have already done all chasis/suspension measurements and probably can start producing these sooner than usual. They just need to see who is seriously interested.

Please vote if you are interested. They won't make specific springs to match up with FSD's, yellows or Bilstein's so don't ask. The Spec-R line on the gen2 have the highest spring rate available but still retain most of the stock comfort. The drop for gen2 guys are 1.2 and 1.1, perfect for most I would think. I love these springs but don't take my word for it; mrmonk7663 R3L3NTL3S jkups warlord skeurton Soto are a few that are riding on SWIFT and should be able to tell you guys more.

Please do some research on SWIFT before making judgment. They take a lot time engineering/testing. They use a difference approach to developing their springs and create one of the best performance (and not lowering) springs on the market.


Here are the actual posts that describes the differences

MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - Swift Springs dynoed

How to Finally Get Performance Out of Your KW Coilovers - E46Fanatics



Here are the reviews for other vehicles:

Swift springs reviewed!!!!! - Nissan 370Z Forum

Swift Sport Springs Review thread (pics) - Unofficial Honda FIT Forums

Swift Spec R - 2008 EVO X Review/Install/Pics - EvoXForums.com - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Forums

Torn between Eibach or Swift - S2KI Honda S2000 Forums

Swift Springs long term review. - evolutionm.net

[R3L3NTL3S]

When I had the spec r's I loved them. In normal daily driving they perform similar to stock in the terms of ride comfort but, when you push your car into a hard turn the car feels much more planted. One other thing I noticed was that when doing hard takeoffs the car wouldn't squat as much in the rear. Awesome spring and I would recommend that if you are in the market for springs that these need to be on the top of your list.

[deek]

prolly the spec r's i just want these springs , all my evo buddys are on them for autocross and they are amazing.

[exentix]

Would the drop be similar to the Gen 2? I want something with a moderate drop as I can't have my car slammed. What is the spring rate? As opposed to others like h&r, and eibach? Also what would pricing be for these? Very interested just want some more specifics.

[daafisch]

mmmm Swift springs. Spec-R please.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by exentix Would the drop be similar to the Gen 2? I want something with a moderate drop as I can't have my car slammed. What is the spring rate? As opposed to others like h&r, and eibach? Also what would pricing be for these? Very interested just want some more specifics.

Nothing has been developed yet, and honestly with such low interest I doubt they will make them. If they do, we don't know specifics till after they are made. I would guess they would be similar to gen2 spec though.

[daafisch]

I wonder how much of a difference in the spring there would actually be. I have been tempted to buy the gen 2 springs and put them on the gen 1 to see how it works but would much rather have ones made specifically for the gen 1.

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by daafisch I wonder how much of a difference in the spring there would actually be. I have been tempted to buy the gen 2 springs and put them on the gen 1 to see how it works but would much rather have ones made specifically for the gen 1.

Not much, most likely.

I can't think of one reason not to try out what you're suggesting. Any difference one might perceive as "needed" between the two (due to the small weight differences/weight dist. differences, etc.) would probably be more slight than the amount of difference between two springs that could feasibly come down to "driver preference" with regard to which is "best."

Now, I certainly wouldn't ever suggest using the existing Gen2 springs (or ANY aftermarket spring, for that matter) with the OEM Gen1 dampers, but that's another issue entirely...

[specvspeedfreak]

I just spoke to Swift. There is bad and good news.

The bad new: Swift will most likely not make gen1 specific springs.

The Good news: They are willing to test gen1 stock springs and see if they work properly and to their satisfaction. First Part of this is they need a local that has stock gen1 springs laying around to take to Swift. I will give the name of first person that PM's me to Swift <DO NOT jump gun and call them yourself; it might kill the chance of them even going further with this.

The person that can give their stock gen1 spring for initial testing might also get test fitted with gen2 Swift springs < this part I did not get clarification on but assuming is the next step.

The reason for this is because all their test springs go to Japan and does not come back. So all their data and shit is in Japan.

[deek]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak I just spoke to Swift. There is bad and good news. The bad new: Swift will most likely not make gen1 specific springs. The Good news: They are willing to test gen1 stock springs and see if they work properly and to their satisfaction. First Part of this is they need a local that has stock gen1 springs laying around to take to Swift. I will give the name of first person that PM's me to Swift <DO NOT jump gun and call them yourself; it might kill the chance of them even going further with this. The person that can give their stock gen1 spring for initial testing might also get test fitted with gen2 Swift springs < this part I did not get clarification on but assuming is the next step. The reason for this is because all their test springs go to Japan and does not come back. So all their data and shit is in Japan.

where is swift and how long would the need vehicle/ springs

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by deek where is swift and how long would the need vehicle/ springs

Ontario, CA. They will need just springs first. IF they need the car I would think it would for 1-2 days only, but that is later on.

[deek]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak Ontario, CA. They will need just springs first. IF they need the car I would think it would for 1-2 days only, but that is later on.

dam too bad im not still in vegas right now, i would totally jump on this, specially being a stay at home dad i only drive like once a week anyways.

[fengrs]

Any update on gen 2 swifts on gen 1?

[specvspeedfreak]

there isn't enough interest... I guess if people really want these will need to take a chance with the gen2 ones and see how it works out.

[Mizzle]

No interest?
Bullshit.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Mizzle No interest? Bullshit.

I didn't say no interest.. I said not enough. What do you want me to do? ...call Swift and tell them 8 people are interested..and besides no one has come forward with a gen1 for test fitting< They at least need that.

[karl-hungus]

there was interest and swift decided to screw gen1 from the get go. go find their original thread.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by karl-hungus there was interest and swift decided to screw gen1 from the get go. go find their original thread.

I know what thread your talking about cause I'm the one that started it lol...That thread is now the main Swift thread in the gen2 section. There was a lack of real interest from the get go so it's not Swifts fault. Most of the gen1 guys that were interested wanted it to pair up well with FSD's ...and Swift doesn't do that....

Besides I made this thread to help out. I'm not getting anything out of this.. IF there was indeed interest, someone would of already volunteered to have these test fitted

[Design]

I have my gen 1 stock springs available. But I would definitely need them back. PM me if you want to set something up.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Design I have my gen 1 stock springs available. But I would definitely need them back. PM me if you want to set something up.

You in SoCal? cause it would need to be dropped off to them.

[Design]

Yes.

[Mizzle]

What's wrong with wanting them to work with FSD's? First off, if they're designed for stock dampers, they'll work for FSD's.

The issue is the car is already lowered and doesn't really need to be lowered any more. If, however, they did lower the car, I'd still buy them and put on a set of their progressive spacer springy thingies to come back up to stock height AND have non-shitty springs.

[specvspeedfreak]

ok... Ill make a call and see what they can do with just the springs.. I'm thinking they would need a car soon after, though.. but we will see..

I'll PM you after I find out.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Mizzle What's wrong with wanting them to work with FSD's? First off, if they're designed for stock dampers, they'll work for FSD's. The issue is the car is already lowered and doesn't really need to be lowered any more. If, however, they did lower the car, I'd still buy them and put on a set of their progressive spacer springy thingies to come back up to stock height AND have non-shitty springs.

nothing is wrong with wanting it.. but it would be stupid for any company to make springs to match up with them .... for every 300 ms3's there might be 1 with FSD's.. get the drift?

[Mizzle]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak nothing is wrong with wanting it.. but it would be stupid for any company to make springs to match up with them .... for every 300 ms3's there might be 1 with FSD's.. get the drift?

You miss my point. If they're already for stock dampers, they should work fine with FSD's.

If they want to make a custom setup, they should include/recommend dampers to replace stock.

[Worbit]

I'm interested so long as I can swap them with the springs on my current KWs


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[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Worbit I'm interested so long as I can swap them with the springs on my current KWs Sent from my iPhone using tapatalk

they are best known for their coilover springs
http://www.swiftsprings.com/file/metric.pdf

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Mizzle You miss my point. If they're already for stock dampers, they should work fine with FSD's. If they want to make a custom setup, they should include/recommend dampers to replace stock.

You can use FSD's with Swifts or any other springs for that matter but don't think it's recommend by koni (after a certain amount drop)... < you this already

and they do recommend aftermarket shocks for greater performance (see their website). But they design their spring around stock strut dimension/capabilities..and the obvious intent of that is to have a larger customer spectrum, just like what every other company does.

btw..They recommended Bilstein SP for the gen2

[Mizzle]

Drop is not necessary.

[specvspeedfreak]

Finally made the move back to SoCal and went to Swift's wherehouse. They will need a gen1 to test fit the gen2 springs. If anyone is willing to make a trip down to Swift (Ontario Californis) and have the springs tested (most likely you will end up keeping a them for free) let me know (PM me). They will need to get all the measurements, corner weights, etc. Your car needs to have stock struts and springs. If we can't get someone that has stock suspension I will ask if having bilstein's or Koni's will work for testing purposes.

[MS3Zoom24]

Id be interested, but need to know how long they would need the car and if it could be completed during the first week of April!?

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by MS3Zoom24 Id be interested, but need to know how long they would need the car and if it could be completed during the first week of April!?

they would need it for the day most likely (drop off in the AM and pick up in the PM)

PM your info and when you can drop it off and I will let SWIFT know.

thanks

[MS3Zoom24]

pm'ed

[fengrs]

What a deal. Even if u had to pay for the springs. U get free install. Do u have stock shocks?

[MS3Zoom24]

yeah stockers 38k on the odo only cobb rsb waiting for reply and will get it done first week of april

[blkspeed307]

Subbed need springs

[specvspeedfreak]

MS3Zoom24 I will let you know what he says about the first week of April. Also it should be free cause it's test fitting but I will let you know on that as well. I doubt they will test fit it and take it off, that would be too much trouble.

[deek]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak MS3Zoom24 I will let you know what he says about the first week of April. Also it should be free cause it's test fitting but I will let you know on that as well. I doubt they will test fit it and take it off, that would be too much trouble.

that is if they fit.... They are not making a prototype correct? They are just trying to fit the Gen 2 on a Gen 1? Or are they measuring to make these.

[MS3Zoom24]

Yeah that is correct, to see if the Gen 2 will fit on the Gen 1 correctly and within spec!

Originally Posted by deek that is if they fit.... They are not making a prototype correct? They are just trying to fit the Gen 2 on a Gen 1? Or are they measuring to make these.

[Tomas]

I'd be interested if they made a spring that does not bind / is not progressive in the front. From the pics of the genpoo spec-Rs they are both.