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Just add in an alignment before connecting bars and removing weight.

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You really do an alignment before y connect your sway bars? Why is that?

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Just add in an alignment before connecting bars and removing weight.

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After corner balancing, yes. Just ensures you don't inadvertently add preload since your bar pickup points will move slightly with the alignment.

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You really do an alignment before y connect your sway bars? Why is that?

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After corner balancing, yes. Just ensures you don't inadvertently add preload since your bar pickup points will move slightly with the alignment.

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Good info. I need to see if I can get corner balanced here soon closest guy to me is in South fan Francisco tho. Like 2.5hrs from me so I'd have to trailer it unless I did a rough alignment at home and drove it but prob not the best idea

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Taking it out for the first time this season, tomorrow. Corner balanced and aligned, new wheel and tire setup clears with plenty of room to spare. Water injection is doing work, but more on all that later.

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Taking it out for the first time this season, tomorrow. Corner balanced and aligned, new wheel and tire setup clears with plenty of room to spare. Water injection is doing work, but more on all that later......
How did it go? The handling should be great for sure with those mega tires, did the Water Inj'n better the IC? .. hope it did.

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How did it go? The handling should be great for sure with those mega tires, did the Water Inj'n better the IC? .. hope it did.

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It went well. Johanna and I took the class, but there weren't any fully prepped cars in our class, so I was just looking at overall results.

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I was 8th fastest on raw time, and 15th overall on pax.
Johanna was 12th fastest on raw time, and 25th on pax.

I think we did ok considering it's an all new setup. I had a scratch run that was .6s faster than my fastest, but I coned it away. We split the "pro" class (nationals level folks) down the middle, so that's a good sign.


I set up the alignment based on what we were running last year. -2.5°/-3.0° camber front/rear, 0° toe all around. I didn't have the pyrometer out, but I suspect the rear could use a touch more. Tire pressures started at 38 psi all around and was really loose. We went down as far as 35psi in the rear, but grip seemed to fall off again below 35.5 - this will change as we change rear camber.

The rear bar might need backed off a bit, but I want to add a touch of negative camber in the rear first. I didn't have my pyrometer, but the outsides of the contact patch felt a little cooler than the insides on the rear. Front felt pretty even.


The car is a monster. It's making good power and is just incredibly responsive with the flow modifications and lack of intercooler. It made good power without the water injection, actually - I was able to get away with a lot more boost and timing than I thought I would. My tuning didn't go much beyond it calming down the first bit of knock I was seeing - I'm running enough timing at this point that I need on a dyno to really quantify changes. We went through a LOT of water - 10 runs, totaling to ~8 minutes of driving went through 3 liters of water.

The aquamist system ended up being dead simple to tune once I ignored their instructions. It's worthy of a full write up in the near future, it's a very capable system.

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It went well. Johanna and I took the class, but there weren't any fully prepped cars in our class, so I was just looking at overall results.

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I was 8th fastest on raw time, and 15th overall on pax.
Johanna was 12th fastest on raw time, and 25th on pax. .....
well done! it looks like a handling monster.

"It made good power without the water injection, actually - I was able to get away with a lot more boost and timing than I thought I would. "

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well done! it looks like a handling monster.

"It made good power without the water injection, actually - I was able to get away with a lot more boost and timing than I thought I would. "

without?


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Yes, without. I still run 50% E85 as my regular fuel, so knock protection is very high compared to 93 octane fuel. The latent heat capacity of ethanol is huge, and you inject more of it than you do gasoline = great cooling in cylinder.

After I encountered minor knock, I allowed the water injection system to work. I only added another 2° of timing on top of that and I was at my self imposed street tuning limit. It still seemed to be picking up power, but a dyno is well worth the investment to keep from hurting the engine. I might be able to get some time on the rollers in the next month or two.
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Yes, without. I still run 50% E85 as my regular fuel, so knock protection is very high compared to 93 octane fuel. The latent heat capacity of ethanol is huge, and you inject more of it than you do gasoline = great cooling in cylinder.

After I encountered minor knock, I allowed the water injection system to work. I only added another 2° of timing on top of that and I was at my self imposed street tuning limit. It still seemed to be picking up power, but a dyno is well worth the investment to keep from hurting the engine. I might be able to get some time on the rollers in the next month or two.
I'm curious about how much you anticipate paying for dyno time when dialing in ignition timing, (I have no experience or expectations for how long that might take), and whether you think the WI will effect ignition timing for MBT.
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I'm curious about how much you anticipate paying for dyno time when dialing in ignition timing, (I have no experience or expectations for how long that might take), and whether you think the WI will effect ignition timing for MBT.
If i get on the rollers with fuel and boost already dialed in, it takes 1-2 hours to dial in timing.

Changing jets a couple times plus finding new mbt, maybe 4 hours total.

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If i get on the rollers with fuel and boost already dialed in, it takes 1-2 hours to dial in timing.

Changing jets a couple times plus finding new mbt, maybe 4 hours total.

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Clint if you're going to be in the area soon I can talk to my boss about dyno time. We have tuning sessions mon-wed every other week but the rest of the time the dyno just sits. I don't think it'd be too big of an issue if you paid for the time and came on a non tuning day.
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Clint if you're going to be in the area soon I can talk to my boss about dyno time. We have tuning sessions mon-wed every other week but the rest of the time the dyno just sits. I don't think it'd be too big of an issue if you paid for the time and came on a non tuning day.
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P&L Motorsports in Lisle IL. Talked to my boss, he said it wouldn't be a problem. Dyno rates are $140/hour we'd deal with setting it up an strapping it down.
I'm familiar. If all goes well, from next week on I'll have the 6 with me. Should be easy to get a day for dyno time. Are Fridays or Mondays possible?

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If i get on the rollers with fuel and boost already dialed in, it takes 1-2 hours to dial in timing.....
Do you prefer dynos with brakes & load cells to step through rpm's for tuning, or simple inertial types with rpm sweeps?


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I'm familiar. If all goes well, from next week on I'll have the 6 with me. Should be easy to get a day for dyno time. Are Fridays or Mondays possible?

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Yes. This coming week is a tuning week so the week after will work any day. The week after that would have to be Thurs or Fri.
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Yes. This coming week is a tuning week so the week after will work any day. The week after that would have to be Thurs or Fri.
Alright, I'll keep in touch.

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Do you prefer dynos with brakes & load cells to step through rpm's for tuning, or simple inertial types with rpm sweeps?
My preference for dynos are eddy current models of any brand. Inertia drum dynos tend not to simulate road load well enough. Eddy current models can incrementally add load to the point where they will stall out 1k+ hp cars and are typically dead consistent between runs.

I do full throttle, full rpm range sweeps and walk up timing iteratively over the rev range until I see little to no gain in power in a region, then back off 1-2°. I don't use the rpm hold function because we can't 'live flash' the ecu to watch power change in real time. I may spend a few extra minutes and do this at two different boost levels - 1 at wastegate pressure (~10psi) and another at full tilt (20+ psi)m then interpolate between the different load regions. Typically, though, there's not much difference in where MBT lies between high and low boost on a given engine.
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When I bought my 1st turbo, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I found that maximizing advance pre-boost, and backing it down as boost started to increase, eliminated the horrific lag and made that 2L-T run like a 3L na.

Looking forward to your real tuning results!


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When I bought my 1st turbo, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I found that maximizing advance pre-boost, and backing it down as boost started to increase, eliminated the horrific lag and made that 2L-T run like a 3L na.

Looking forward to your real tuning results!


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Had the car out last weekend. Just now getting to the videos.


Fastest recorded for Johanna. She ended up with a 43.2xx.


Johanna beat my by .4s, and was 2nd fastest raw time at the event. I ended up 4th fastest. There's a lot more out there, I don't think either of us really reached the limits in several sections. We both kept pushing it harder and it just sticks.




A couple of issues that I'm trying to iron out.


#1 is that the braking is really lacking. Last year, I was running the HPS pads in the stock front calipers and was happy with the braking. I changed to the CS calipers and 2 piece rotors this year, but still with HPS pads. When I go to brake, the initial pedal feel is very firm but the braking force is very light. If I ease into the brakes, pedal feel is normal and braking force is fine.

I suspect that I'm pressurizing the brake booster so I'm going to replace the original line with internal check valve with a new line and new check valve. Those parts should be in today.


#2 is that the car is still breaking up on long left handers. I need to do more data logging and get with the VT guys to sort this out.





Probably some more, but those are the big ones. I bought an enclosed trailer a few weeks ago, so the car is officially a trailer queen
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Had the car out last weekend. Just now getting to the videos.

A couple of issues that I'm trying to iron out.

#1 is that the braking is really lacking. Last year, I was running the HPS pads in the stock front calipers and was happy with the braking. I changed to the CS calipers and 2 piece rotors this year, but still with HPS pads. When I go to brake, the initial pedal feel is very firm but the braking force is very light. If I ease into the brakes, pedal feel is normal and braking force is fine.

I suspect that I'm pressurizing the brake booster so I'm going to replace the original line with internal check valve with a new line and new check valve. Those parts should be in today.
So you suspect some hose or check-valve damage during the swap to new rotors/calipers ?

#2 is that the car is still breaking up on long left handers. I need to do more data logging and get with the VT guys to sort this out.

Fuel slosh possible? Would show up on log for pressure.

Those starts seem easier on the transaxle.
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So you suspect some hose or check-valve damage during the swap to new rotors/calipers ?

Fuel slosh possible? Would show up on log for pressure.

Those starts seem easier on the transaxle.


The check valve may just be a little gummed up after 200k miles. I haven't pulled it, but I suspect it's slow to move or is a little leaky. The issue is worst when I come out of boost and immediately try to jump on the brakes...which is several times during an autocross. If I have some time, I'll pull it tonight for some inspection. I have one coming in with 0.3psi crack pressure that is piston type, for comparison.

After my first autocross this year, I did find a cracked fitting on the braided line going to the caliper. I thought that was the fix, but the issue persists.



Fuel pressure is ok, from what I remember. I've run with as much as a full tank when it's occurred, so I don't think it's slosh. I should probably go back to the basics, first, but some datalogging of fuel pressure will be included.
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The check valve may just be a little gummed up after 200k miles. I haven't pulled it, but I suspect it's slow to move or is a little leaky. The issue is worst when I come out of boost and immediately try to jump on the brakes...which is several times during an autocross. If I have some time, I'll pull it tonight for some inspection. I have one coming in with 0.3psi crack pressure that is piston type, for comparison.

After my first autocross this year, I did find a cracked fitting on the braided line going to the caliper. I thought that was the fix, but the issue persists.




Check valve holds 50psi and doesn't leak. Going to rework the lines a bit, since I changed them up a little bit for the new intake manifold. I broke an adapter when I pulled the line, last night, anyway...

If not that, I may be looking at a brake booster issue.
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Going to try this again tomorrow. Last weekend I pulled the car off the trailer the night before Autocross and found the clutch hydraulic line squirting fluid everywhere. It's been on for 4 years (CS braided steel), so I replaced it with a technical fit steel braided line.

I reworked the vacuum lines a bit, so I'm interested to see if braking is better. I have the next steps in mind if it doesn't work out.

Had the car on the dyno last Friday. Water injection kills power off and I couldn't make it up with tuning. E85 is an incredible fuel. Since it has such a high octane for us, the water injection doesn't pay off. I'll be pulling it soon. Graph, below. Highest line is without water, lowest line is with as much water as possible before it caused blowout, and the middle line is with the 2 smallest nozzles I had.

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@phate; did you get a chance to look at whether water injection caused an overall decrease in airflow?

Also, have you figured out a solution for intercooling with the st Mani or are you keeping it straight piped?
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Finally got the car out again this past weekend. The brakes still sucked, but went really dang fast despite that. I took #1 pax, and was 2nd on raw 0.2s behind 1st. Johanna went 6th raw and 6th pax. Other than braking, I'm pretty happy with everything.



I ordered a set of Hawk HP+ as my next step with brakes. I'm a little concerned they'll be too touchy like the yellows, but I'll have to go to a different brand if these don't work out.

Also, the car shoots massive flames now and put on a bit of a show this weekend, lol. Great time, overall. Hopefully someone got decent pictures from the weekend. Really crappy screen cap attached.

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@phate; did you get a chance to look at whether water injection caused an overall decrease in airflow?

Also, have you figured out a solution for intercooling with the st Mani or are you keeping it straight piped?
I haven't looked at the logs, yet. This week if I have time. I will probably buy a front mount for testing, but I'm not real willing to give up this response.

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Finally got the car out again this past weekend. The brakes still sucked, but went really dang fast despite that. I took #1 pax, and was 2nd on raw 0.2s behind 1st. Johanna went 6th raw and 6th pax. Other than braking, I'm pretty happy with everything .....
Congrats on the fast runs.

Have you data logged the brake booster vacuum? Would also be good to log brake lever motion with a simple motion switch.

Worst case, I think they make brake pressure assist using the steering fluid pump.


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et. This week if I have time. I will probably buy a front mount for testing, but I'm not real willing to give up this response.
Just a thought- when I first installed an aftermarket TMIC on my car (as a part of testing super-cheater K04), I didn't notice any difference in power, but there was big difference in transient response, which is probably an effect of much smaller pressure drop across the TMIC at higher-than-stock boost levels.

Obviously, straight pipe restriction < Large TMIC, but I wonder if you couldn't get 90% of the response you see from the straight pipe with a large TMIC, and not have to deal with power loss and the complications of keeping up with a WI system.

Also, re: response- it'd be fun to see one of those dynographs/logs plotted against time (secs), instead of Torque/hp v RPM.
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I would think a well designed top mount A/L intercooler with an ice tank in the trunk would provide the lowest AIT's. Providing enough ice on a hot day could be a problem.

EDIT: I guess it would be great, if allowed:

2017 Solo Rules SP class, 15.10.3.2&3 :

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... I will probably buy a front mount for testing, but I'm not real willing to give up this response.
There are some advantages with the FMIC for autoxing, but got to watch the rule book about limitations on what material can be trimmed for clearance. I suspect the AIT's can be much lower with a fmic at the condenser location, and fans driving ambient air through the core. Helps reduce heat soak at staging, as well as on course.

But you would really need a big drop in intake temps to justfy it. Power ratio is based absolute temps, where absolute temp degR = amb degF + 460. So going from 230F AIT to 100F gives a drop of 20%. But in SAE HP formula's for adjusting for variations from standard conditions, they us the sq-rt of this, for a 10% increase in density...... I think?


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Good weekend. Saturday was pouring rain most of the morning, so we bailed. Sunday turned out to be a pretty nice day.

I ended up with a trifecta - 1st in class, 1st on overall raw time, and 1st on index. My 1st time ever for that.

I was pretty happy with the car - I put in Hawk HP+ brake pads up front and they are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Maybe too touchy, but I want to run them another day or two before I decide on something else. Great braking power at low pedal pressure, so it doesn't seem to be a vacuum or brake booster issue. I got a little more used to them a couple runs in, but still locked up the front tires very briefly once or twice.

Johanna had a rough day mashing cones. She ended up 9th on overall raw time with the cone, and would have been 6th if it was clean.



For future rainy days, I picked up some Hoosier H2O rain tires. These will go on my green XXR's. 245/40/17, but they look gigantic.





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Just a thought- when I first installed an aftermarket TMIC on my car (as a part of testing super-cheater K04), I didn't notice any difference in power, but there was big difference in transient response, which is probably an effect of much smaller pressure drop across the TMIC at higher-than-stock boost levels.

Obviously, straight pipe restriction < Large TMIC, but I wonder if you couldn't get 90% of the response you see from the straight pipe with a large TMIC, and not have to deal with power loss and the complications of keeping up with a WI system.

Also, re: response- it'd be fun to see one of those dynographs/logs plotted against time (secs), instead of Torque/hp v RPM.
If I go with an intercooler, I think it'll be a front mount. The top mounts still heat soak like crazy.
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Congrat's on FTD. Did you log ait's? Agree about heat soak from a TMIC.

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If I go with an intercooler, I think it'll be a front mount. The top mounts still heat soak like crazy.
To minimize piping, you could route the hot side similar to what I did, and with the Ecoboost IM, the cold side could be very short and go under the radiator (ideally with a shorter or angled radiator).
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Congrat's on FTD. Did you log ait's? Agree about heat soak from a TMIC.

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Didn't log them, but they tend to level out around 250°F from the testing I've done.
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Didn't log them, but they tend to level out around 250°F from the testing I've done.
or the sensor taps out.
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If I go with an intercooler, I think it'll be a front mount. The top mounts still heat soak like crazy.
Looks like you could be competitive at the SCCA Nationals. If you go FMIC for the increased charge density, be careful about alterations to the frame/body:

15. STREET PREPARED CATEGORY
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