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i believe he has 12 sets for Gen1, 4-6 for genpu and 1 set for MS6.

he told me he was registering for vendor tonight and i dunno how long the application take to process by kevin but ill be your official MSF Sonic Tuning rep!!!
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ONLY ONE FOR MS6??? Does that mean I can has dibs? Dibs.
Already called it!!! lol
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we diddent think the MS6 would be as popular so he only ordered 2 sets (one being mine)

if you sign up for the group buy when it becomes available im sure he can place another order for the MS6 guys that are interested!
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he told me he was registering for vendor tonight and i dunno how long the application take to process by kevin but ill be your official MSF Sonic Tuning rep!!!
Any news on the GB sir?
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Any news on the shock dyno?
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still waiting for kevin to process the vendor application before i can do GB

apparently the shock dyno hasent happened yet because like i said before wei got married a few weeks ago and has still been catching up on things. ill make sure the shocks go out this week or next.
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Bump for interest. How come the prices for S1 and S3 aren't listed separately? I only see the 899 price. I'm probably getting co's very soon. No longer happy with springs on stock dampers and no point in spending 600 for koni yellows and not have ride height adjustment.
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im not 100% sure on what the GB pricing will be. AFAIK all the vendor applications have been completed but i can check anyway.
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are they making genpu coil overs by any chance?
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Well hopefully they post the prices soon. I am getting atnsy and about to order something I really don't want. I'd love to have a nice set of coilover for less than 1k. But I might settle for yellows for 500 ish. I just don't want to settle. I figure I can sell my swift springs after I get coils and make some money back.
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I wouldn't buy a set of coilovers for less than a grand. I'd be afraid of how bad they'd be.
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Seems we don't have anything that is proven reliable for under $2k. (KWv3) Honestly, I don't want to cheap out, but I def don't want to spend more than 1k either. I think that's overkill for what I want and need. I figure I already have swift springs which I paid 275, plus yellows are going to be no less than 550 that's already 800+ and I have to settle for that ride height, not to mention a complete PITA to adjust the rear shocks.

I might as well get some coil overs and be able to adjust ride height and make the car look how I want it to, and not have to remove the rear shocks every time I want to change the damper setting. I'm not looking to go slammed or herra flush, but maybe a little lower than it is now and better handling. I would be willing to bet a set of 1k coil overs would run circles around spring strut/shock combo.
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are they making genpu coil overs by any chance?
yes, i think they have 4 sets available

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I wouldn't buy a set of coilovers for less than a grand. I'd be afraid of how bad they'd be.

its easy to offer less expensive products when your a small shop and you dont have much overhead. i think wei said it costs ~$75 in shipping costs if he ships them via boat from taiwan which takes 6-8 weeks. its $250 a set to ship them via air and thats 10-14 days. he ordered 12-15 sets via boat 3 months ago to help save some money for you guys which is going to substantially lower the price of the sets.

companies like BC/megan prob charge you the $250 cost when they really only are paying the $75 shipping cost. thats the beauty of working with a small company like sonic tuning cause Wei is all a bout the customer. He does enough volume with other platforms like BMW that he really wants to get into the mazdaspeed stuff.
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Seems we don't have anything that is proven reliable for under $2k. (KWv3) Honestly, I don't want to cheap out, but I def don't want to spend more than 1k either. I think that's overkill for what I want and need. I figure I already have swift springs which I paid 275, plus yellows are going to be no less than 550 that's already 800+ and I have to settle for that ride height, not to mention a complete PITA to adjust the rear shocks.

I might as well get some coil overs and be able to adjust ride height and make the car look how I want it to, and not have to remove the rear shocks every time I want to change the damper setting. I'm not looking to go slammed or herra flush, but maybe a little lower than it is now and better handling. I would be willing to bet a set of 1k coil overs would run circles around spring strut/shock combo.
Adjusting ride height shouldn't really be about making the car "look" the way you want.
If you have the swift springs, get bilsteins and be done with it.
Swap back to stock springs if need be in the winter.
$1000 doesn't buy much in suspension.
Even the h&r coil overs cost 1600 and don't have any damping adjustment, are more in line with something for the mz3, yet I bet they are the best thing in they're price range.
Not sure if the mazdaspeed coilovers are still produced, but they're a viable option, but so far the AST grand am shocks are the best I've seen so for, and at 2500 bucks, really are a steal.
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o btw if you havent heard like 60% of the DC metro area is still without power since friday so wei has been unable to use the interwebs at home or work to finish the application.
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yes, i think they have 4 sets available






can you please link me to the genpu coil sets?
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can you please link me to the genpu coil sets?
they arent on the website yet. they are the same as the gen1 just made to fit gen2.
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they arent on the website yet. they are the same as the gen1 just made to fit gen2.
how much are they?
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how much are they?
*facepalm*

we're waiting to do a group buy. if you want more info feel free to call them. the number is in the OP
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So I only see gen 1 coils

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okay im highly interested. :] how do i get to be part of this group buy and does the group buy arrangement give us moar discount?
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okay im highly interested. :] how do i get to be part of this group buy and does the group buy arrangement give us moar discount?
sit tight young grasshopper.

like i said were just waiting for the power to come back on so wei can finish filling out all the forms to become and official vendor!

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I'm definitely in for the group buy!
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sit tight young grasshopper.

like i said were just waiting for the power to come back on so wei can finish filling out all the forms to become and official vendor!

hang in there guys, i promise it will be worth it
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Are the rears on the MS6 an actual coilover?

Got a pic?
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so far im loving them! no strange noises. i actually raised the car slightly from when i had it on the BC's and im actually using the full range of motion on everything now instead of being completely slammed. btw these will go low enough that your wheels will ride on the insides of the fenders lol

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Are the rears on the MS6 an actual coilover?

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no the rears on the MS6 have a separate strut/spring
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I want in fo sho. I'll try to be patient.
Ant, are these comfortable on the street? And what's the warranty on them if any?
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So only 1 set available for the speed6? Will that be changing anytime soon?

And as for those mazdaspeed coilovers were they made for the speed6? If so do you have any info on them?

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I want in fo sho. I'll try to be patient.
Ant, are these comfortable on the street? And what's the warranty on them if any?
i have them on full stiff and i think they are still too soft cause i like my car to ride like a go-kart

@doubleflusher has them and AFAIK loves them on the street

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So only 1 set available for the speed6? Will that be changing anytime soon?

And as for those mazdaspeed coilovers were they made for the speed6? If so do you have any info on them?
he only ordered 2 sets total for the MS6 cause he diddent think they would be possible but he can of course order more. if we can show some serious interest from the MS6 guys then we can see about getting the shipping expedited.

im not sure what your talking about as far as the mazdaspeed CO's
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I do have these on my MS3, and I do love them.

Plus, they helped keep my car stable at the track.
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So i know this is a newb question so flame all you want.
I understand that coilovers in most cases give you alot of adjustability compared to a shock and spring setup. My question is how much worse is the ride compared to stock. Every car i have ever been in with coil overs it basically felt liek there was no suspension just metal rods where the suspension used to be. im sure in some cases this is wanted but mine being a DD i dont need anything this rough.
can coil overs ride ok as well?

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So i know this is a newb question so flame all you want.
I understand that coilovers in most cases give you alot of adjustability compared to a shock and spring setup. My question is how much worse is the ride compared to stock. Every car i have ever been in with coil overs it basically felt liek there was no suspension just metal rods where the suspension used to be. im sure in some cases this is wanted but mine being a DD i dont need anything this rough.
can coil overs ride ok as well?

Sorry for nub question.
each and every car/coilover is different. if you set them for full soft the ride should still be comfortable but the general nature of coilovers isent going to make your car feel stock.

the spring rates on these arent terribly stiff, do you have an MS6 or MS3?
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Originally Posted by superskaterxes View Post
each and every car/coilover is different. if you set them for full soft the ride should still be comfortable but the general nature of coilovers isent going to make your car feel stock.

the spring rates on these arent terribly stiff, do you have an MS6 or MS3?
MS3, oh i know it would be stiffer than stock. i am ok with that. i just dont want every pot hole or bump in the road i hit to feel like i bent a rim or something. Granted i try to avoid both of those just sometimes they cant be avoided
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MS3, oh i know it would be stiffer than stock. i am ok with that. i just dont want every pot hole or bump in the road i hit to feel like i bent a rim or something. Granted i try to avoid both of those just sometimes they cant be avoided
sounds like you will be just fine with these
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Originally Posted by Tokay444 View Post
Not sure if the mazdaspeed coilovers are still produced, but they're a viable option.
I haven't heard anything on these and that's why I'm interested and if they are made for the speed6 does anyone have any info on them? Sorry for mini thread jack...
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I don't think they are ms6 available.
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lol of course the ms6 is available! how u think i am running them?
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Originally Posted by Deldran View Post
So i know this is a newb question so flame all you want.
I understand that coilovers in most cases give you alot of adjustability compared to a shock and spring setup. My question is how much worse is the ride compared to stock. Every car i have ever been in with coil overs it basically felt liek there was no suspension just metal rods where the suspension used to be. im sure in some cases this is wanted but mine being a DD i dont need anything this rough.
can coil overs ride ok as well?

Sorry for nub question.
Come to a Nator IL meet and ride in my car if you want to know what a high-quality, dialed in coilover setup feels like.

I have the Mazdaspeed Coilovers (basically KW V3s) in my MS3. They never made any such product for the MS6 (which I'm sure is what @Tokay444 meant).
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