I Failed Miserably

[9900rpm]

Originally Posted by jwilkins88 That'd be awesome man! Much appreciated! Thanks man! What rpm do you launch at?

On the BT, I was launching at 4krpm and it was falling flat on it's face. At 4200, it was better. Next time out, I will try around 4600rpm or so. Since you have 2 step, start at 4400rpm or so (depends on how much boost, if any, it builds on the line). The launch characteristics of these cars on stock turbo vs. BT is totally different. You are doing your burnouts in 2nd gear, right? If you say no, that is a part of your problem. A tire spinning at 50mph for 5 seconds will heat up better than a tire spinning at 20mph for 10 seconds. Feel me?

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Yeah don't do this Joel lol. He has traction he just needs to find a sweet spot where he can spin alittle bit to fall into the beginning of his power band with out the bog. theres multipul was he can do this which has been suggested in this thread but your suggestion is like telling him to have someone spray VHT on the ground. Dude has traction already.....

He said he's bogging on the launch, which means he's launching too low. If he launches higher, which he should, he will spin, so to counter that, he needs to lower tire pressure.

Originally Posted by KiddMnKy I won't be getting slicks for a while so in street tires where should I start with psi for the track?

Slip the clutch out (don't dump it, or you will get wheel hop then serious spin) at around 2700rpm or so, depending on track conditions. You want your tires to chirp slightly, but not fry on the launch. Lower your tire pressure to 25 to 28psi. Do your burnout quick, not a smokey one. Just like a 2 second burnout to kick the rocks off. Street tires will heat then glaze, making them slippery, if you burn out for a long time, which fucks up your 60 foot times. Bring a tire gauge. Remember to put air back in your tires when you leave the track.

[OneBAMFpog]

Slip the clutch out (don't dump it, or you will get wheel hop then serious spin) at around 2700rpm or so, depending on track conditions. You want your tires to chirp slightly, but not fry on the launch. Lower your tire pressure to 25 to 28psi. Do your burnout quick, not a smokey one. Just like a 2 second burnout to kick the rocks off. Street tires will heat then glaze, making them slippery, if you burn out for a long time, which fucks up your 60 foot times. Bring a tire gauge. Remember to put air back in your tires when you leave the track.

Yeah, that was something I've got to look into. I haven't seen any of the tracks out here but I'm sure they have the capability to reinflate tires. (Last track I was at didn't) I know about the burnout and slipping the clutch. I'm glad you addressed the air pressure though because I was not sure about it. Also, are you saying that I should be revved to about 2700 rpm as I launch while slipping off the clutch? My first run with my 2010 MS3 was a 13.8. I'll pull out the timeslips and upload it. My reaction time was TERRIBLE!

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by 9900rpm On the BT, I was launching at 4krpm and it was falling flat on it's face. At 4200, it was better. Next time out, I will try around 4600rpm or so. Since you have 2 step, start at 4400rpm or so (depends on how much boost, if any, it builds on the line). The launch characteristics of these cars on stock turbo vs. BT is totally different. You are doing your burnouts in 2nd gear, right? If you say no, that is a part of your problem. A tire spinning at 50mph for 5 seconds will heat up better than a tire spinning at 20mph for 10 seconds. Feel me?

I was launching at 4500 and that was too low. Next time I'm at the track, I'm gonna try 5k. If that doesn't work, I'll try 5300.

And yes... burnouts were second gear

[Jarods7920]

Well, we need to set up a track day here soon! I really want to get my car to the track soon. Hopefully not to break anything. Good runs, but practice does make perfect. Car does have A LOT more in it!

[bewsted]

Jarod we got a thread going in the NATOR MO.....I guess KCIR does Test n Tunes on Saturdays

[wankular]

I only got two videos of Dustin and/or Joel before my battery died. Hopefully they work, my camera and editing programs are fucking gay and don't get along. I posted a few more videos in the PHX meet thread.

[9900rpm]

Originally Posted by KiddMnKy Yeah, that was something I've got to look into. I haven't seen any of the tracks out here but I'm sure they have the capability to reinflate tires. (Last track I was at didn't) I know about the burnout and slipping the clutch. I'm glad you addressed the air pressure though because I was not sure about it. Also, are you saying that I should be revved to about 2700 rpm as I launch while slipping off the clutch? My first run with my 2010 MS3 was a 13.8. I'll pull out the timeslips and upload it. My reaction time was TERRIBLE!

Another thing; if they do have an air hose at the track, bump the rear tire pressure up to 50psi. Less rolling resistence.

Originally Posted by jwilkins88 I was launching at 4500 and that was too low. Next time I'm at the track, I'm gonna try 5k. If that doesn't work, I'll try 5300. And yes... burnouts were second gear

Joel, when you say too low, does it spin tires for half a second, then fall flat on it's face, or just takes off slowly? Also, does it spin slicks in 2nd and 3rd?

Fuck, next time out, I may try the same shit. Just let the tires fry a little on the launch and see what happens.

[9900rpm]

Just watched your videos. The car sounds nasty!! I like it.

So yeah, your launches needs more revs. Does look like you're launching with not much behind it.

How does the LC on the AP work? Does it only let you set rpm, or can you make adjustments, such as retarding timing? I know in my Evo, on the AEM EMS, I can make those adjustments, and the thing will build 25psi at the line, and sounds like gun shots.

[Matrix311]

Dude it was great meeting you man. You and those tiny weiners at the irish pub cracked me up big time. I feel your pain at the track as well. It was my first time with my car there and I was getting good trap speeds for stock turbo at 102mph vs everyone else was like 97-99mph. I just couldnt break into 13's because of my poor launch abilities. Give us both a few more times at the track to figure out what we need to do and you'll be hitting your 11's and i'll be in the mid to low 13's Thanks again for the journey to AZ. Was great putting a face to the avatar

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by Matrix311 Dude it was great meeting you man. You and those tiny weiners at the irish pub cracked me up big time. I feel your pain at the track as well. It was my first time with my car there and I was getting good trap speeds for stock turbo at 102mph vs everyone else was like 97-99mph. I just couldnt break into 13's because of my poor launch abilities. Give us both a few more times at the track to figure out what we need to do and you'll be hitting your 11's and i'll be in the mid to low 13's Thanks again for the journey to AZ. Was great putting a face to the avatar

I was at 100-101 hooker! But you were the fastest I believe, I was the quickest We'll set up a meet some time. Hopefully by then I can stop the motor from dancing around in my engine bay and easily crack into the 13's. What were your best 60ft, best i managed was a 2.27

[FantasmoNegro]

Just watched the vids. You are coming out of the hole way soft. I say quickly slip the clutch at 5-5.5K and let the big dog eat. Remember .1 at the 60' is usually worth .2 at the 1/4 stripe.

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by FantasmoNegro Just watched the vids. You are coming out of the hole way soft. I say quickly slip the clutch at 5-5.5K and let the big dog eat. Remember .1 at the 60' is usually worth .2 at the 1/4 stripe.

I was slipping the clutch pretty damn quick. On my last run, I straight dropped the clutch.

The issue is that I was bogging because I was launching at 4.5k

[spnkr21]

What boost were you holding at the line?

[Fagwagon]

the run with you and dustin looked pretty damn clean man, car sound nasty too. kinda sounded like you short shifted a little between 1-2 maybe i dunno?

ps when are you getting your pussy?

[qtrmile beast]

So ok i seen dustin run so what time did he run? he looked really slow when he ran so where you just playing around?

[BrianZX10R]

Originally Posted by qtrmile beast So ok i seen dustin run so what time did he run? he looked really slow when he ran so where you just playing around?

dustin was at 35 psi wot POWER SHIFTING AND DOUBLE CLUTCHING..!! SPEED3'S USUALLY make 6's look that slow

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by qtrmile beast So ok i seen dustin run so what time did he run? he looked really slow when he ran so where you just playing around?

He was trying to get his tune dialed in. He was also having some serious issues with spark blowout

Originally Posted by spnkr21 What boost were you holding at the line?

Only like 2-3psi

Edit: Ugh.... That second video was one of my worst runs of the night. I didn't expect the tree to go until Dustin was up to the line, but it went regardless haha... That's why my launch was so horrible in that one.

[802MS3]

Originally Posted by jwilkins88 Edit: Ugh.... That second video was one of my worst runs of the night. I didn't expect the tree to go until Dustin was up to the line, but it went regardless haha... That's why my launch was so horrible in that one.

the cool thing about the track that people forget a lot is that your time won't start until you actually move. Sometimes its nice to get a run, when you want to go, like a second or two after you see the lights go. Your reaction time will suck, but when youre trying to get a solid time, this is best way to do it, I think.

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by opt_ms3 the cool thing about the track that people forget a lot is that your time won't start until you actually move. Sometimes its nice to get a run, when you want to go, like a second or two after you see the lights go. Your reaction time will suck, but when youre trying to get a solid time, this is best way to do it, I think.

Yeah man. I knew that in the back of my head, but I kept forgetting about it because of noob jitters. Next time will be so much better.

[802MS3]

you gotta hit 5th gear, so many shifts. you really gotta be on your game, and it seems like you pretty much were. powershifting is where its at though, it helps a lot.

damn cant wait till the track up here opens. ha not gonna be for a while though...

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by opt_ms3 you gotta hit 5th gear, so many shifts. you really gotta be on your game, and it seems like you pretty much were. powershifting is where its at though, it helps a lot. damn cant wait till the track up here opens. ha not gonna be for a while though...

Yeah... Our local track is closed, so I'm gonna have to go to KC to track my car next time around... Tracking a car like mine on a stock clutch when you're not close to home is scary as fuck.

As the night went on, my transmission just got louder and louder until it sounded like a fucking midget was under my hood banging on shit with a hammer.


Then I drove the 1500 miles home....

[9900rpm]

Originally Posted by jwilkins88 I was slipping the clutch pretty damn quick. On my last run, I straight dropped the clutch. The issue is that I was bogging because I was launching at 4.5k

With a stock clutch, dump it out. Reason being that the stock disc heats up quicker than aftermarket. If you slip the stock clutch out on a powerful car, it's cooking a lot of material off, and won't hold as well later. Do it a lot, and it will lock you out of gear.

Stock clutch disc is sprung anyway, and stock flywheel is dual mass. You need that force to get everything moving. Rev high, dump it out, don't look back!

[Jarods7920]

Joel, we need to get to KCIR one night when it warms up!

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by qtrmile beast So ok i seen dustin run so what time did he run? he looked really slow when he ran so where you just playing around?

yeah, i was just rolling off the line and doing 3rd and 4th gear pulls for datalogs.




@triplejumper18 your such a fucking feggot puss

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by Jarods7920 Joel, we need to get to KCIR one night when it warms up!

We're planning a KCIR trip when the weather warms up. I think it's in the NATOR MO section

[driver311]

Originally Posted by 9900rpm With a stock clutch, dump it out. Reason being that the stock disc heats up quicker than aftermarket. If you slip the stock clutch out on a powerful car, it's cooking a lot of material off, and won't hold as well later. Do it a lot, and it will lock you out of gear. Stock clutch disc is sprung anyway, and stock flywheel is dual mass. You need that force to get everything moving. Rev high, dump it out, don't look back!

Exactly. This is how I get my mid 1.7s in the speed3.

[Dano]

Anthony,

Where is that 11.xx slip?

[driver311]

Havent went yet bro. Sacramento closed due to supposedly rain. Stupid. Car was extremely fast at sea level.

[dizzin9]

gjdm

[driver311]

In before the 12.3@117 run.

[rodrigo]

hahaha..... agreed!!!

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by driver311 In before the 12.3@117 run.

Originally Posted by lenny127 hahaha..... agreed!!!

I'll put both you cocky motherfuckers in your place as soon as I get my fueling issues worked out.

Lenny - You should run 12s before you talk shit... Just saying

[rodrigo]

Originally Posted by jwilkins88 I'll put both you cocky motherfuckers in your place as soon as I get my fueling issues worked out. Lenny - You should run 12s before you talk shit... Just saying

niggah fuck my 12s .....i can (and most likely am the slowest motherfucker alive) still talk shit.


and fyfin

[802MS3]

lol. Lenny is the most humble person here when it comes to drag racing. A little poke shouldn't hurt anyones feelings.

[rodrigo]

joel is just a sensitive cunt (n/m he traps over 10mph higher also) ......maybe if we put a transtesticle at the 1320ft he would get there quicker

[Dano]

one at 60ft as well...

nah he may be able to see an adams apple at 60'...wait no...he can't see one sitting at the bar right next to him...yes put a testicle at 60'

[Darksun280]

Wait did joel get alittle sensitive over Lennys comment?

[jwilkins88]

Originally Posted by Darksun280 Wait did joel get alittle sensitive over Lennys comment?

I'm always a sensitive cunt

[jax ms3gt]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 one at 60ft as well... nah he may be able to see an adams apple at 60'...wait no...he can't see one sitting at the bar right next to him...yes put a testicle at 60'

lolz, very quotable. There only a few of us who don't suck at drag racing on this platform, and most of them aren't near your power level. So your not doing that bad..practice, practice and hope everything keeps holding up so you can get 11's consistently

[Dano]

haha

I am just bustin his balls....

I would love to see an AP car be the first into the 11's....