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 Old 12-08-2011, 02:29 PM   #1
 
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Default MS3 stock turbo 11.6?

not meaning to troll or anything but i found this rather odd since this MS3 guy claimed to run 11.6 on stock turbo with E85 on my thread over at club RSX

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faggot.

your buddys car is weak and uber gay with his mugen faggot badge.

yeah it's true tho.

stock turbo ms3 in the 11's.... beat that... I think not
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Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx View Post
faggot.

your buddys car is weak and uber gay with his mugen faggot badge.

yeah it's true tho.

stock turbo ms3 in the 11's.... beat that... I think not
lol honda hater, get walked by boosted civics and all motor k20's.

k20's ftw lolumad.
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I think the fastest k04 time is held by driver311 on an e85 mix @ 12.5.

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While I don't think it's happened on the stock turbo. I'm will to bet someone will run 11's this coming 2012 on the stock turbo...
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Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx View Post
faggot.

your buddys car is weak and uber gay with his mugen faggot badge.

yeah it's true tho.

stock turbo ms3 in the 11's.... beat that... I think not
pretty brave behind that computer screen... so driver 311 12.5 on stock turbo? thats still pretty damn impressive. i was sure you needed a upgraded turbo for 11's
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Originally Posted by k20z3allmotor View Post
pretty brave behind that computer screen... so driver 311 12.5 on stock turbo? thats still pretty damn impressive. i was sure you needed a upgraded turbo for 11's
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Originally Posted by k20z3allmotor View Post
pretty brave behind that computer screen... so driver 311 12.5 on stock turbo? thats still pretty damn impressive. i was sure you needed a upgraded turbo for 11's
Used to be that you did but with e85 I'm pretty sure its possible. We will see when one of the 100% e85 guys gets to the track with the proper wheel/tire setup.
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Now lets see what @phate would run
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So how much did that build cost? 12-15k? Pretty much what a used Ocho goes for? Nice, big wallets go fast. Who woulda thought?

Would rather slap a k20z in an ef/eg/ek hatch.... at least then it would handle like a boss too.
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I think it's absolutely feasible with the right tire and a good driver. 11's are within reach on the stock turbo.
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Originally Posted by rfinkle2 View Post
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12.5 @109 on k04
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II was just talkin out my rectum ... maybe not 11's but mid 12's on stock yes...

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So how much did that build cost? 12-15k? Pretty much what a used Ocho goes for? Nice, big wallets go fast. Who woulda thought?

Would rather slap a k20z in an ef/eg/ek hatch.... at least then it would handle like a boss too.
all my mods do not add up anywere near 12 to 15 k
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2600lb car with no AC and still only does 12.4@109... meh.
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2600lb car with no AC and still only does 12.4@109... meh.
yes sir. its also on the stock block with 80 thousand miles knock on wood.
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Originally Posted by k20z3allmotor View Post
not meaning to troll or anything but i found this rather odd since this MS3 guy claimed to run 11.6 on stock turbo with E85 on my thread over at club RSX

New 8thgen Civic Si record! [12.4 @109MPH] Stock Block K20Z3 - Club RSX Message Board
That's not bad considering it is N/A....................Also suprised at the 2580lbs weight too that thing must not have had shit in it. BUT platform vs. platform I guarantee we can spend less money and go faster. & @ms3ftw (facepalm; come on guy you can troll better than that.)
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Originally Posted by rfinkle2 View Post
Here is username Driver311's sig:

12.5 @109 on k04
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BTW...Speedsixx is cool, just has a quick switch.
"quick switch" is the understatement of the day lol

speedsixx knows I love his switch

BTW can anyone tell me how many times @SpeedSixxx has been banned due to his quick switch....Forge BPV is the prize...









j/k theres no prize.
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That's not bad considering it is N/A....................Also suprised at the 2580lbs weight too that thing must not have had shit in it. BUT platform vs. platform I guarantee we can spend less money and go faster. & @ms3ftw (facepalm; come on guy you can troll better than that.)
it is gutted, but not how u might think, alot of parts were replaced with lighter ones and so on, it is my daily driver. im not doubting the fact that the MS3 can be faster with less money either, but turbo cars typically have that advantage on any platform they come stock with.

Its just something different for me to try going NA only, ive owned nothing but turbo cars before.
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My 100% E85 K04 + Driver311 at the wheel = stock turbo MS3 in the 11's in the summer.

I'm gonna make it happen.
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Originally Posted by silvapain View Post
My 100% E85 K04 + Driver311 at the wheel = stock turbo MS3 in the 11's in the summer.

I'm gonna make it happen.
Someone better hit stock K04 11's. If you fucks don't by this summer I'm gonna come outta the wood work with a stripped MS3 on slicks and corn.
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Originally Posted by jdmoptiontune View Post
Someone better hit stock K04 11's. If you fucks don't by this summer I'm gonna come outta the wood work with a stripped MS3 on slicks and corn.
Don't worry, the NATOR IL crew are all becoming track monkeys and might even lay down some solid times!
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If not you Illinoisians I will be proud to get a shot when I get there.
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shit I ran 9s on my stock turbo without a tune!!!

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An 11.60 on a stock turbo will never happen unless u put the engine on a go cart.
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Originally Posted by rfinkle2 View Post
I think the fastest k04 time is held by driver311 on an e85 mix @ 12.5.
No I ran 12.5@109 with simple bolt ons and ots map. Super rich, low boost, stock exhaust mani, stock intake mani, and NO e85. Plus at 2700ft track. At sealevel with fully bolted car on straight e85 I dont doubt 117 traps are possible.

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An 11.60 on a stock turbo will never happen unless u put the engine on a go cart.
Bullshit its fully possible at sealevel.

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My 100% E85 K04 + Driver311 at the wheel = stock turbo MS3 in the 11's in the summer.

I'm gonna make it happen.
YOu better believe it. I have no fucking doubt in my mind itll do it with ease. People underestimate stock turbo setups. Trq gets it done
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Ps. Big props to the civic driver. Na, and with 75-100whp less than most of you guys and making us look bad. But in another breath Ill say hiis 60ft is ok and it was ran at a very very fast track. Just wait till I get there and you guys see what my setup runs there.
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No I ran 12.5@109 with simple bolt ons and ots map. Super rich, low boost, stock exhaust mani, stock intake mani, and NO e85. Plus at 2700ft track. At sealevel with fully bolted car on straight e85 I dont doubt 117 traps are possible.



Bullshit its fully possible at sealevel.



YOu better believe it. I have no fucking doubt in my mind itll do it with ease. People underestimate stock turbo setups. Trq gets it done
Have fun with your dream it will never happen sea level or anywhere else. That's why they make bigger turbos.
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you dd that thing? shit looks fugly.

but regardless impressive .<3 me some k20
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Have fun with your dream it will never happen sea level or anywhere else. That's why they make bigger turbos.
Whats your basis for that kmac? YOu truely dont think I or anyone else can do it? Your crazy to doubt it cause its very possible. I mean look at what this 240whp na civic just ran. Imagine with another 120whp and 300ftlbs. LOL Even if the car is 500lbs heavier it doenst matter. The torque makes the weight not an issue. Just wait for what next year has to offer. Low 12s high 11s stock turbo will be common. And if I have to put stock turbo back on my car to go 11s, well then so be it. LOL Itll be as simple as bolting it up, filling the tank with 50% e85 and quick tune.
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Have fun with your dream it will never happen sea level or anywhere else. That's why they make bigger turbos.
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Whats your basis for that kmac? YOu truely dont think I or anyone else can do it? Your crazy to doubt it cause its very possible. I mean look at what this 240whp na civic just ran. Imagine with another 120whp and 300ftlbs. LOL Even if the car is 500lbs heavier it doenst matter. The torque makes the weight not an issue. Just wait for what next year has to offer. Low 12s high 11s stock turbo will be common. And if I have to put stock turbo back on my car to go 11s, well then so be it. LOL Itll be as simple as bolting it up, filling the tank with 50% e85 and quick tune.
I call truce! LOL.

Maybe high 11's?, you know a comprimise?
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I love put-up or shut-up moments, and this is definitely one of them.
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Next year sounds to be a great year for MSF! if you guys can prove to us non believers that it is possible, then more props to you guys.
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I predict a fully bolted stock turbo genpu from Alaska will hit 12.5 next year. Any body wanna ship me up some e85 so I can attempt to run low 12's high 11's?
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No I ran 12.5@109 with simple bolt ons and ots map. Super rich, low boost, stock exhaust mani, stock intake mani, and NO e85. Plus at 2700ft track. At sealevel with fully bolted car on straight e85 I dont doubt 117 traps are possible.



Bullshit its fully possible at sealevel.



YOu better believe it. I have no fucking doubt in my mind itll do it with ease. People underestimate stock turbo setups. Trq gets it done


gives me hope. since my turbo is new, if i add E85, a proper tire setup, meth, manifods, gut the car and since im at 300 sea level....11s r achievable!! wooo
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Get those 12s first. Its not as easy as I make it sound. It would take the right setup with a good driver! These cars are tricky with the short gearing and big torque.
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Bring it then @driver311 high 11 possible mid 11 or lower no way.
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Driver may be right. The stars would have to align but an e85 gutted Ms3 on slicks can do 11.8-12.0 The formula is there seen other cars doing it when their power to weight is right. going to need 1.6 60fts though believe that.
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Still don't see it . The car is fwd , It's heavy and It's biggest problem is the k04 with what looks like a 30 ar . I just don't see a mid 11 in It's future . A low 12 , a 12.0 , even 11.9 maybe but no 11.6 or 11.5.
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