N/A 8th Civic 12.9@107

[badams118]

First 8th gen in the 12s, afaik. Good driving, even for slicks.

YouTube- P1030431.MOV

YouTube- P1030431.MOV

OMFG!! 12s Si (All Motor) - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

[rodrigo]

YouTube - 16 second VW Fox Pass

YouTube - 16 second VW Fox Pass

im assuming this is a "who gives a shit about the car in the video thread" so I am just doing my part

[badams118]

I'd be bitter if I couldn't hit 12s without crapping a rod, too. lol!

[yearzero]

owning a 9 second civic is just like coming out of the closet. at first, everyone's surprised. but in the end, you're still gay.

[badams118]

That joke is so old... but if it makes you feel better.

[yearzero]

it does make me feel better. tyvm.

[inthetwisties]

What kind of response were you looking for on a mazda forum?

[yearzero]

tbh i appreciate just about any car on the road that's fast. from grand nationals to omni GLHTs to hondas. hondas are just easy targets. too many little faggots driving around with fart cans and vinyls with they're sideways ball cap. you have to admit it's the drivers that have ruined honda. i saw a civic yesterday on the way home with just one hubcap left and a 60 y/o woman driving it and it still had a trash can for a muffler.

[phillyb]

i think someone had that joke in their signature

[ms3077]

Not bad but I don't see the big deal. That Civic has like every bolt-on / tune known to man, not to mention SLICKS and weight reduction, etc and still barely runs under 13sec. Personally, I would be upset if I spent that much time / effort and cash just to end up with a time like that.

[badams118]

8th gen Civics are great cars. There are plenty of punk drivers out there of every flavor. The worst I've seen have been behind the wheel of a 335i, tbh. There are simply a greater number behind the wheel of Civics than most because they are cheap enough to fit a teenager's budget.

As far as what the driver in the OP accomplished, it really is pretty impressive. The only power mods he has are intake, header, throttle body & cams. It's a 2900lb car before seat & spare removal, so it is not *that* light. He also trapped 107, so you can just write off his time because of the slicks.

Originally Posted by inthetwisties What kind of response were you looking for on a mazda forum?

Honestly, the goal isn't to start a flame thread. I figure car people will appreciate car accomplishments. If some are offended, I can relate, actually, having known the frustration of owning an MS3.

[boosted3]

U cant hate on the civicsThey have smaller motors than we do and they r capabile of making 3 timews the amoutn of hp we make and could ever make...baleiv eme if it wasent for all the ricers i would love to have my 2000 si jackson racing supercharged civic back anyday

YouTube - Sickest VTEC Sound Ever (Integra Type-R modded) 10000U/min

YouTube - Sickest VTEC Sound Ever (Integra Type-R modded) 10000U/min

now thats v tec sound lol gotta love it

[chrisB]

I can appreciate a civic when done right... The problem is I only see 1 decent civic every 6 months or so while the POS ricers I see 6 every time I leave my house.

[NCZ13]

that sound has never impressed me.

i appreciate the technology however

[ETERNAL]

I think its pretty impressive. They took a, what high 15second, low 16second car, into a territory that very few MazdaSpeed3s ever hit. And the MS3 is a high 13 low 14second car to begin with.
I find it amazing that MS3 owners call themselves enthusiasts but are never impressed with anything other than Mazda. Its ultimate Fanboism, and makes us just as bad as those Civic owners we make fun of.

To me, if someone takes time and puts heart into it, I will support it. Like the platform or not, N/A in a territory we struggle to hit, is pretty impresive.

[cmlewis04]

Si has potential especially done right, thank the ricers for the bad name but for the few that do it right keep it up!

[DaleNixon]

Pretty impressive. I wish it was a 4 door though

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by ETERNAL I think its pretty impressive. They took a, what high 15second, low 16second car, into a territory that very few MazdaSpeed3s ever hit. And the MS3 is a high 13 low 14second car to begin with. I find it amazing that MS3 owners call themselves enthusiasts but are never impressed with anything other than Mazda. Its ultimate Fanboism, and makes us just as bad as those Civic owners we make fun of. To me, if someone takes time and puts heart into it, I will support it. Like the platform or not, N/A in a territory we struggle to hit, is pretty impresive.

No, the 8th GEN Civic SI runs high 14's/low 15's stock, I've owned one before the MS3. I'm not very impressed with a vehicle that needs all those modifications to bearly run under 13sec, especially with weight reduction / slicks. I never said I was impressed with the MS3 either, this has nothing to do with "ultimate fanboism" it's reality. Yes, I'm aware FWD sport compacts can be fast with the right turbo / tuning. But then you just basically have the ultimate roll-on / drag race w/ slicks car that's a pain in the ass to drive on a daily basis.

[badams118]

Seriously curious, ms3077, what cars do impress you? Intake/header/exhaust will get an 8th gen Civic into 13s, and I don't consider that highly modded at all. There are certainly faster cars, but they generally have more cylinders/displacement/boost, which really doesn't impress me when they have so much more to work with.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by badams118 Seriously curious, ms3077, what cars do impress you? Intake/header/exhaust will get an 8th gen Civic into 13s, and I don't consider that highly modded at all. There are certainly faster cars, but they generally have more cylinders/displacement/boost, which really doesn't impress me when they have so much more to work with.

Sorry I would be sad if I did the following to achieve said time:

I/H/CAMS/FP/TB/PM/OP/FD/IMG/MM/Slicks

The car went down the strip open header with no passenger seat, no spare, and three bars of gas left on the gauge. Best ET is 12.8 & best Trap Speed is 108MPH. The slicks improved my time by almost a full second. Car #311

The question isn't "what impresses me" it's "this particular example doesn't"

If the car could run even close to that on street tires and interior I might be a little more impressed. I didn't say it's "awful" or anything I'm just not amazed by anything here. It's nothing "earth shattering" It’s a new si running a high 12 aided by slicks / weight reduction and multiple modifications at a ¼ mile strip I’m not familiar with. I'm sorry this upsets you.

[ETERNAL]

Do you drove 5 second funny cars in your spare time or something? Because on THAT PLATFORM, without a turbo, is impressive. You cannot just state a particular time, is unimpressive. You have to equate it to what is doing it.

For example. A 40 Second quarter mile can be EXTREMELY impressive, if its a power wheels doing it.
While, a 8 second run can be pitiful, if its a top fuel dragster doing it.
SO THERE IS WHERE THE FANBOISM COMES IN. You don't think its impressive because its a Honda doing it.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by ETERNAL Do you drove 5 second funny cars in your spare time or something? Because on THAT PLATFORM, without a turbo, is impressive. You cannot just state a particular time, is unimpressive. You have to equate it to what is doing it. For example. A 40 Second quarter mile can be EXTREMELY impressive, if its a power wheels doing it. While, a 8 second run can be pitiful, if its a top fuel dragster doing it. SO THERE IS WHERE THE FANBOISM COMES IN. You don't think its impressive because its a Honda doing it.

No, you're just slammed full of assumptions, barking up the wrong tree and becoming belligerent because I don't think a Honda with said modifications is all that impressive. I have nothing against Honda you fucking twat. Are you done venting or do you want more?

Oh and aren't you the one who said they run 16's to begin with? Yeah you know a shit load about Hondas I tell you what. Just STFU

[ETERNAL]

Oh and 8th Gen Civics DO NOT run high 14s low 15s. Civic SIs do.

Originally Posted by ms3077 No, you're just slammed full of assumptions, barking up the wrong tree and becoming belligerent because I don't think a Honda with said modifications isn't impressive. I have nothing against Honda you fucking twat. Are you done venting or do you want more?

Who is belligerent? I never swore at you are was disrespectful.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by ETERNAL Oh and 8th Gen Civics DO NOT run high 14s low 15s. Civic SIs do. Who is belligerent? I never swore at you are was disrespectful.

I didn't say 8th gen "civics" run high 14/ low 15's! You said SI's run 16's!

I corrected you and said NO, SI's run high 14/low 15's.

You don't have to use "curse words" to be belligerent, it's you attitude, the way you're making assumptions and accusing people of being something they aren't.

[ETERNAL]

No I never EVER EVER said anything about an SI in this thread until after I posted the time I posted. This thread is not about Civic SIs. So no I did not say a Civic SI runs those times.

Please post where I said an SI runs 16's. I would love to see that!!

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by ETERNAL No I never EVER EVER said anything about an SI in this thread until after I posted the time I posted. This thread is not about Civic SIs. So no I did not say a Civic SI runs those times. Please post where I said an SI runs 16's. I would love to see that!!

OMG you're so lost!!!!

end thread / I'm LMFAO right now!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just do yourself a favor and sign off..

But in your defense, if I was under the assumption we were talking about a regular civic I probably would be A LOT more impressed as well...

[ETERNAL]

I must have reading comprehension issues because the title of the thread is:

N/A 8th Civic 12.9@107

And the orginal post says:

First 8th gen in the 12s, afaik. Good driving, even for slicks.

Maybe I went to a terrible school because I do not see the Letters SI in there anywhere. Maybe you can point them out to me?

So yes I am assuming that this is about an 8th Gen Civic. Since thats what the thread is about.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by ETERNAL I must have reading comprehension issues because the title of the thread is: And the orginal post says: Maybe I went to a terrible school because I do not see the Letters SI in there anywhere. Maybe you can point them out to me? So yes I am assuming that this is about an 8th Gen Civic. Since thats what the thread is about.

Okay, I'm going to try and be as nice as possible here.

First off, to even think for a second that a regular plain Jane N/A 8th Gen Civic would one in the 12's pretty much proves you aren't very familiar with Honda.

Lastly, there's a link in the OP that clearly states the Civic is indeed an "SI"

[ETERNAL]

Originally Posted by ms3077 Okay, I'm going to try and be as nice as possible here. First off, to even think for a second that a regular plain Jane N/A 8th Gen Civic would one in the 12's pretty much proves you aren't very familiar with Honda. Lastly, there's a link in the OP that clearly states the Civic is indeed an "SI"

Did not see the link to another forum.
I do not know much about civics, but I don't need to, to understand what a good time for a 8th GEN CIVIC is, and this is why I FOUND it impressive.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by ETERNAL Did not see the link to another forum. I do not know much about civics, but I don't need to, to understand what a good time for a 8th GEN CIVIC is, and this is why I FOUND it impressive.

Yes, that's why I even came to your defense and said that I could understand why you thought the way you did. You were under the wrong impression. But don’t hear me wrong, the SI’S performance isn’t “bad” or anything it just doesn’t impress all that much.

My opinion has nothing to do with hating Honda, I like Honda and actually been contemplating getting an S2K for months now. Perfect 50/50 weight distribution; RWD; Very stout 2.2l N/A 4cyl; Purpose built / pure sports car; good power to weight ratio; etc.

P.S Sorry for being an ass hole by the way. I've just been having to defend my self quite a lot lately. Comes by instinct now lol.

[gtarman77787]

*yawn* i'm tired of reading everyone's posts back and forth -- the truth of the matter is that the person w/ the civic accomplished something -- he's proud of it -- let him be proud of it -- Honda or not, he did it -- good for him -- we love our mazdas -- he loves his honda -- we're all a little bias here --

this is me saying "well done" to the civic driver

gooodnight

[badams118]

Originally Posted by ms3077 Sorry I would be sad if I did the following to achieve said time: I/H/CAMS/FP/TB/PM/OP/FD/IMG/MM/Slicks The car went down the strip open header with no passenger seat, no spare, and three bars of gas left on the gauge. Best ET is 12.8 & best Trap Speed is 108MPH. The slicks improved my time by almost a full second. Car #311 The question isn't "what impresses me" it's "this particular example doesn't" If the car could run even close to that on street tires and interior I might be a little more impressed. I didn't say it's "awful" or anything I'm just not amazed by anything here. It's nothing "earth shattering" It’s a new si running a high 12 aided by slicks / weight reduction and multiple modifications at a ¼ mile strip I’m not familiar with. I'm sorry this upsets you.

What's to be upset about? I just want to know what you do find impressive if a 12 second NA 8th Civic that traps 108 doesn't impress you?

BTW, he did 13.9 with only intake & header on all season street tires, so I don't know what the "full second" comment is about, exactly.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/autoc...nally-13s.html

[JNR5005]

Nice runs- my friend has a Si w/ intake headers exhaust mm and slicks and did 14.4...
FP/TB/PM/OP/FD/IMG what the heck are these mods?? lol

[badams118]

FP = Flash Pro
TB = Throttle Body
PM = Ported intake Mani
OP = Oil Pump
FD = Final Drive
IMG = Intake Mani Gasket

Of those, only the flash pro, intake, throttle body & ported mani are power mods.

[JNR5005]

What's final drive him changing the gears?

[badams118]

There are some specs here:

my *OFFICIAL* FD2-R 5.06 Final drive review - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

[SpeedSixxx]

this thread is too funny....

fuckin faggot civic

[SpeedSixxx]

ACTUALLY

socks came damn near 11 seconds 1/4 in a speed 3.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by badams118 What's to be upset about? I just want to know what you do find impressive if a 12 second NA 8th Civic that traps 108 doesn't impress you? BTW, he did 13.9 with only intake & header on all season street tires, so I don't know what the "full second" comment is about, exactly. Finally!! 13s - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

Because you spend the same money it would cost to buy a far better performing vehicle to begin with only to spend a lot more and end up with not very impressive results. There, that basically sums it up. Yes, personally I wouldn't be exactly pleased.

Also, knocking a FULL SECOND off stock with what? 20-25whp is bit unbelievable. I’ve owned the car and there’s no way in hell it would quicker than an MS3 with just an extra 20-30hp. 103mph from the 94mph stock trap speed makes it even more bogus. But hey I suppose anything can happen, I wasn’t there watching.

That's like saying an MS3 with an intake ran 12.9@110 or some crazy shit like that. It doesn't add up, at all.

Hey guys! We all fuck up and should have just bought an SI and bolted-on some of these magical buddy club headers! They knock off a FULL SEC off the ¼ mile time and add around 10mph to the strap speed lol!

[badams118]

Lol, he has vids & slips. He is by far not the only one to get into 13s with only intake/header/exhaust/tune. I guess I would be pissed too if a bolt-on NA Civic ran as fast as your turbo MS3 with intake.

As far as the money argument, it is completely bogus. Do you want me to add up the cost of a Civic + supercharger? You can get 300whp on a 2900lb car. You don't have to build the block or drown it in meth, either. haha

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