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Ran 13.63 and three 13.7s tonight. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...5/4bda3d32.jpg I should have a vid soon of one of my three 13.7 runs, but I didn't get the 13.6 on tape. I think I may have to get different tires before I can click off a better 60' than 2.2. I was hitting 2.2 no matter how I launched, so I either need practice, boost by gear, or tires. My mods are SRI, TIP, TMIC, RP, CBE, and my ATR tune. Nataphen vs. a Sky redline with a tune. I believe it is an auto. That's my 13.793@101.71 run. |
awesome shit somebody around here called them dunslips...i has them. turrible |
I actually have Hankooks. They are better than the stockers, but launching with 18.5psi in 1st still pushes them too far. Alan had boost by gear at about 50% in 1st and 75% in 2nd. He seemed to have a little less trouble, so I'll try that next time. I even broke loose in 3rd once and had to feather the throttle, LOL. Damn fail wheel drive. |
What did u have your tire pressure at? |
if you can time it right and go on the third amber, you could shave about 2 tenths off that reaction time. good runs nonetheless. I'm probably in the 15 second range lol |
congrats. just some observations here.....did u come in 5th at the traps???? your mph in the 1/4 is way off your 8th....which means a) u fucked up a shift into 4th b) u went into 5th and lingered between 4th and 5th for too long c) detonation on 4th d) some type of fail at the end of the track .... show me the other slips p.s. u shoukd be able to hit 104-105mph easily with an 82.xx 1/8 mph |
The MPH at that track is said to be low by 3-4, good old country bumpkin track. I was actually trapping more like 105. I shifted to 5th because I tried to ride out 4th on the first run, but bounced off the limiter right before I crossed the line. Alan was running 13.3 with a more aggressive tune and meth, and his MPH only read ~106. I ran 22psi on the front tires, didn't pump up the rears, I just left them alone. I was NOT worried about reaction time, believe me. I intentionally watched the light turn green and practiced getting my launch down. Should have seen the LS1 Camaro driver's face that I ran that red lit, ran a 14.05, and I still sucked him up and crossed the line right in front of him, LOL. EDIT: Other slips added to OP. |
consistency ftw |
I just set up a boost by gear tune, 50% throttle in 1st and 75% throttle in 2nd. I'll see how that effects my launches next time around. |
stay in 4th...its good up to 110mph ...unless you pooers have shorter gearing in 4th , which i doubt |
I tried, man, that's how I ran last time. With my new mods, it's just running out of gear by the end of the run. Like I said, I bounced off the limiter in 4th on my first run, and not just barely either. It was well before the end of the track. It seems weird, but it is what it is. |
Thats crazy if you bounced off the limiter in 4th. I usually see 109 on my logs in 4th at redline.... Either way, good times. Especially first time out. |
Needless to say, great times. When we finally get launch control and flat foot shifting, you'll definitely improve by a couple 10ths. |
Good times Nate, I had a blast yesterday and you had some good runs. I think the boost by gear will help since the last run i saw before i left was you spinning halfway down the track through third...lol |
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Wierd why they switched it, i just had the regular tree the whole time Whats funny is my best run was against Alan when he had the gopro attached to the windshield, when he gets the vids posted, he crosses the track right when my 12.5 flashes across the board. lol My first 1/4 mile in this car and im pleased, other than a broken saturn ion axle i think everyone did really well yesterday. We should get a cruise similar to this together more often. |
You should do some bracket racing. Good shit |
9 Attachment(s) Heres a few shitty phone pics from yesterday, Last pic is of the my best Alans worst lol. NATE! your in the last two...lol |
Man, I look like a retard in both of those pics, LOL. (guy in the green shirt) Alan has one of the best looking MS3s that I've seen in person or otherwise. I think that MSF was represented well, even though there were only two of us. We were running much better than 99% of the Slobalts. It sucks that the guy in the Ion RL broke his axle, but that's always a possibility when you're running. Pay to play and all that. |
I agree completely with the looks of Alans car. You would have no idea his car has over 50k unless he told you or you drove it. The stance is perfect and after yesterday and all the wheel hop i was getting some springs are defiantly in order along with some tires and LCA's. At first i had thought we were kinda crashing the party going to this meet, but everyone was really cool and you guys held it down for MSF. I think after about 4 runs heating up my stock tires and having cool downs they turned to shit and wouldnt hold grip whatsoever. |
increase redline a little bit, then ride out 4th- thats what I did. I found an old slip of mine that had similar 1/8 mile times as yours to comparison (but who knows, all tracks are different) http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...d3/135-106.jpg |
Those are decent times. I'm hoping to run anything less than 14's when I go to the track later this year. I see you dropped psi to 22 in front, so maybe try 20 psi next time and set the rears around 45. That will definitely help your 60ft times. Good shit none the less. :drive: |
Aaron, thanks for the tip, but if I can't hit it in under 6700 RPM, I'm just going to shift. That's just pushing the stock turbo too far and asking for problems IMO. |
I increased it to 7000, but i also had ATR pull boost and stuff above 6500---to save the turbo etc. Yeah won't be making super great power up there, but in my experience, still was quicker consistently. Especially 5th which can be a little awkward. either way good times, keep it up! |
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wind doesnt change gearing lol it is a huge mistake going into 5th, even if you powershifted (are u? 4th to 5th?) u will lose 2/10ths easily just on the shift in the ET do yourself a favor, figure out the poos gear ratios, and then your tire diameter and calculate it.....also keep in mind at least on gen 1 ....the rpm reads higher than reality. like 6200 tach is 6k in reality usually... and the ONLY way that mph is blamed on the track , is if the last half of it is uphill.....other than that it is racer error it is NOT a put down, but in drag racing u have to analyze every section separately and evaluate where the problem is. great times!!! i just believe u got 13.4 in that same pass man , thats all |
1 Attachment(s) Here's a gearing calculator. Left side is gen1, right is genpu. Put in tire size and read chart! According to that... genpu can reach 117-118 with stock tires in 4th. you got about 5mph advantage vs gen1 in gearing... DEFINITELY no need to go into 5th. |
Well, something was up, because I hit the 6700 limiter and bounced off of it twice before I crossed the line on my first run of the day. I wasn't going by the tach, I was going by my shift light on the AP for shift points. Maybe I didn't hit the limiter and the car just bucked for some reason, certainly felt like the limiter though. I'll pay more attention next time and try to ride out 4th. |
good deal. u should be running a couple of tenths quicker.....great job man. (real quick, u run the same boost in 4th? as in 3rd?......cuz another explanation is boost by gear and u not having the same power in 4th) just thinking outside the box |
Same boost in 1-5, hence my traction woes with street tires, LOL. I'll be experimenting with BBG for 1 and 2 next time out. |
Hey I'll get your vid up soon Nate. Its taking forever to load these HD gopro vids. I've got Motocrosser's and my best runs loaded and it took 2 hours lol!. We did pretty well compared to the rest of the field. My friend's cobalt ss/tc with full bolt ons and tuned for 100% e85 ran a 12.97 which was the lowest time. I have a vid of me driving his car I'll post later, its fast. I don't know for sure but my 13.3 was the next fastest time between the ms3's and the cobalts. Here are the two I have so far... Casey's 12.5 My 13.3 I'll get the time slip posted later but I ran 13.3 @ 106.4 with a 2.18 60'. Tire pressure was 23psi and I did shift to 5th (using ap's FFS). Oh and before I start a war, I beat the 5.0 because he missed a shift. Sorry they are kind of long. I don't have anything to edit the vids with... |
sOOOOOOOO sweet vids Alan, thanks for posting. Heres that same run when me and you went....your worst my best :) |
I can explain that worst run, along with some of my other worst runs... Lol! Right now if I don't ffs between gears my car runs stupid rich. I got some major wheel hop on that launch and let off so when I shifted to 3rd, my afr's were in the 10's. |
I hopped like the energizer bunny all day yesterday except.....when i ran you on the 12.5 run. lol wheel hop = fail! BTW did Cameron run any faster yesterday after i left? |
Lol! No, He got pissed off and left. He was mad cause he couldn't get into the 11's. He got really mad when I raced him in my friends turbo cobalt and I smoked him. I ran a 13 flat and he got a bad launch and couldn't catch up. |
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O well better luck next time |
His best 60' was a 2.0 so you got a better 60' on stock tires compared to his NT555's. |
Moar pics of girl in white shorts posted in post #18!! |
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trashy? eh? maybe for some but fuckable nonetheless. |
Cameron is just a huge baby. He has a nice car, and as long as your car is slower than his, he's cool, but he's got serious small penis syndrome. I'm ready to sort out my shifting to 5th, get a fuel pump, DP, and meth so that Cameron can hate me as well. |
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LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU!!! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1LD3xzcvhV...hbenedict8.jpg Ooops, that's not Emperor Palpatine.... |
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+1 to having truck and trailor. The tow truck bill for that guy who broke his Ion's axle was over $200. |
I'm running 10.1@135 next time that I go out. 5.0 Mustangs, feel my turbo minivan wrath. |
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Give me a shout the next time you guys are heading out. I might even make a few passes to make you guys feel better about yourselves. |
We need to go back pretty soon before it gets too hot. I want to try some of the advice posted earlier in this thread. Raise redline to 7k, don't shift to 5th, and maybe see if I can work out the launch control/FFS problem I've been having. I would like to be able to crack off a 12.9 (at least) as the car sits now (don't know if its possible but I'd like to try at least one more time before it gets hot). |
I'm getting a 12.9 before you, sir. I'll stab your tires. |
Challenge accepted! And I'll steal your intercooler! :swordfight: |
Im down for another test n tune. I think the track ws pretty warm when we arrived also we had been driving for a while, so i have a feeling my best runs were early on and it all turned to shit when it started cooling down. Just for shits im gonna get my cats hacked off before i go back and see if i can accel a catless mustang into the 11's on street tires. Im confident due to the fact my 12.5 run was done with 30 PSI in the rear tires :) drop em to 20PSI, catless and a revised tune and i might be able to squeeze a high 11. |
Count me in for the next track day. My car had a fever but she's feeling a whole lot better now :) |
I checked the weather, and it looks like we're having rain Saturday as of now. Maybe the weatherman will be wrong. |
This weekend is probably a stretch just cause were still in the spring, but summer is pretty close and here within the next month im sure there will be a weekend or two where we can get another group together. Maybe this time we can organize lunch and cruise where we can actually all stay together instead of everyone hauling ass through traffic and others getting stuck. I mean we all got to the track about the same time anyway no use risking it haulin balls. |
I want to do this again soon but not to soon. Maybe the first or second weekend of may would be good. It will probably start getting hot by may 15th or so so before then if possible. PS: Nate, your vid is 31% loaded to youtube as I type this. I'll just stick it here and in your original post as well when I get it loaded... EDIT: Added one of Nate's vids to the op. |
i did 13.71 and trapped 102 with intake, rmm and springs...am i missing something here? |
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i wonder why you guys are running slower or equal with more mods than the first gens with less mods... im currently being tuned by DJ right now...hes adjusting my timing now. just received my first map for timing this morning but im going tomorrow, should have my 2nd timing map tonight or tomorrow but im going to the track tomorrow to see with the car is doing now vs what it will do once my tune is dialed in. all i care aboout is trap though, to see how much power im making |
240, we'll see if my adjustment to the tune so that I can stay in 4th helps knock off a tenth or so and add a couple of MPH. I'm not claiming to be the best driver either, I'm just consistent. You can be consistently bad, LOL. |
yeah. im bad. when i ran my 13.71, i was running with a moded 135 and all i focused on was getting of the line with him and trying to keep up. POOF! i had a 13.71 and that was the only time i hit it...i dont go to the track often either but im going to start going more often. plus all i care about when i go to the track is an improved trap speed |
Improved trap is great when you're wanting your car to have more power, but I don't really care how powerful it is unless I can push it as far as it can go. I'd rather have a quick ET and a low MPH, because it shows that I'm a good driver. :D |
yeah, i know but i dont frequent the strip enough so i just dont see myself becoming a good drag racer or even decent. well, i guess i can, just going start practicing from street lights...ha |
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Perfect example, last weekend i couldn't understand why Cameron(other 5.0L driver for your on lookers) was hitting 116 to 118 trap speeds and never getting under 12.5 1/4's. I never got a trap speed above 113MPH and was cutting similar and faster times when i wasn't making the back end slide around. His traps were indicating high 11's low 12's. Then again his 60 FTs never drop below 2.0 with drag radials. |
The 60' makes or breaks the run, that's something that you have to learn early. If there was a way to get a bad ass launch on the MS3, we'd see a lot more of them in the 12s because they pull like hell on the top end. When I used to hit the track all the time, if my 60' didn't flash up on the board as lower than 1.8, I just babied the car after that. No reason to break the car to get a shitty run because I already know that I can shift just fine. |
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...hes def gotta get a retune. my 60' was 2.14 on my run(13.71) trapping 102.4(intake only.) who tuned your natahpen? or are our running the OTS map with minor tweaks b.c those OTS maps are super slow. you stock tune with those mods would be faster, i know my was. |
Not with a fuel pump that you're having to tune around to keep it from crapping out on you. Why don't we just reserve judgement until I make it out again? There were a couple of things that I obviously did wrong, so I'm sure that the car has more in it. I would hope that you had better 60' times than I did with stock boost by gear in 1-2. I'm trying BBG now. Keeping the tires from going up in a blaze was a task. I'm tuning the car myself, but I still haven't touched OTS timing because my stock HPFP is right at the limit. Alan, my best 60s were the 2.2s in the OP. |
My best 60' on stock tune was low 2.1's. With the OTS Stage1 tune I pulled a couple 2.0's but still I could only manage a 13.91 ET. I never powershifted 1st-2nd though. I'll probably give that a try next time at the track. I know there's still time wasted on that 1st-2nd gear shift. |
Do you log your drag strip passes? |
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http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-2011-a-76823/ Logs are attached on OP. Mods are CPE CAI, CPE TIP, CPE 75 RMM, and OTS Stage1 cpCAI 93oct BT v100. |
I was looking at your 1/8th mile mph and it's the same as yours. So I have to imagine it's roughly the same. Crappy 2.4 60ft's ftl, though. Ugh... tracks that aren't prepped ftl, too. Doesn't show your 1000 mph, though. Mine was 93.50... I wish I hadn't let off. That would have been the run of the day. |
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