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Default Cylinder 1 and 4 appear wet

Tried some one step colder plugs to help with knock retard, didn't help, if anything it is worse. I went to take out my plugs to see what they are like and looking into the spark plug hole cylinder 1 and 4 seem to look wet and shiny.

My turbo is shot and I burn a quart every 500 ish miles just FYI.

Any ideas on why the cylinders would appear wet?

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Originally Posted by turbskies View Post
Tried some one step colder plugs to help with knock retard, didn't help, if anything it is worse. I went to take out my plugs to see what they are like and looking into the spark plug hole cylinder 1 and 4 seem to look wet and shiny.

My turbo is shot and I burn a quart every 500 ish miles just FYI.

Any ideas on why the cylinders would appear wet?

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Do a compression test

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I did about 2 months ago : 155, 150, 150, 155 , idk how accurate the actual valve stem was on psi but it was at least solid accross the board.

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Oil lowers the octane so that is prob the source of the kr...

They are wet looking because of the oil. I mean you did say you burn a quart per 500 miles. You are literally burning a entire oil change worth of oil inbetween the changes them selfs. Eather the turbo is shot and is blowing oil into the intake mani or you have massive blowby.
Do another comp test and add oil into the spark plug hole. If it shoots up a lot then you need to do a leakdown test.
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Originally Posted by 5doorsoffury View Post
Oil lowers the octane so that is prob the source of the kr...

They are wet looking because of the oil. I mean you did say you burn a quart per 500 miles. You are literally burning a entire oil change worth of oil inbetween the changes them selfs. Eather the turbo is shot and is blowing oil into the intake mani or you have massive blowby.
Do another comp test and add oil into the spark plug hole. If it shoots up a lot then you need to do a leakdown test.
Will do, gonna get a replacement turbo in about a month

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Originally Posted by turbskies View Post
I did about 2 months ago : 155, 150, 150, 155 , idk how accurate the actual valve stem was on psi but it was at least consistant accross the board.

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I would do a leakdown regardless.
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I'm betting the leak down comes back bonkers. If you are dumping that much oil you are most likely doing 2 things:

1. Youre blowing out the spark and/or severly lowering the octane of hte fuel with the added oil in the cylinders.
2. Your oil addition has made your dry comp test a wet comp test, which means your results aren't accurate and you need to do a leak down.

FYI - Only a dry comp test is accurate for compression. If this comes back low or inconsistent, you would add a cap full of oil to seal the rings and then run again to see if it improved. IN your case you skipped straight to the wet most likely masking a ring problem. You either need to do the leakdown test or wait a few days and then rerun the comp tes once all that oil has a chance to settle out.

If the leakdown comes back fine then its #1 and you get the opportunity to add more power If it comes back off kilter then you need a shortblock from one of our nice vendors and a basic head refresh while its apart.
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with that much oil consumption can the valves and runner be clogged to the point of making problems ? less air for same fuel = too rich ?
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Less air won't make it rich unless it is introduced through a vacuum leak.
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with that much oil consumption can the valves and runner be clogged to the point of making problems ? less air for same fuel = too rich ?
Afr is fine

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Originally Posted by Fstrnyou View Post
Less air won't make it rich unless it is introduced through a vacuum leak.
Right if all runners are restricted equally
I had in mind one may get worse than others even if the maf reading and average AFR read good....But yes, it is probably not the case.......
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Put the tune back to stage 0 (stock), seems to not be knocking almost not at all (peaked at 1.75 at wot just before redline).

Was running stage 1 Stratified etune.

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Originally Posted by Fstrnyou View Post
Fixed.

I would do a leakdown regardless.
You spelled consistent wrong.

I would also recommend a leakdown test. Most likely the motor has cracked ringlands.
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You spelled consistent wrong.
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You spelled consistent wrong.

I would also recommend a leakdown test. Most likely the motor has cracked ringlands.
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