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 Old 10-12-2017, 01:04 AM   #41
 
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I know when I did my motor and started adding power and boost, I was getting high knock values and noise from needing to replace the fuel injector seals. I replaced those with corksport seals and all is well. Are you running all of that with no seals, it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw a set of aftermarket seals in, I prefer the corksport cause there's no other required shit with their seals. And I have pulled the injectors and reused their seals with no issues 2x. A lot of people use safe seals or whatever by cpe...whatever you do it would help to eliminate your stock seals as a possibilty.
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Man, I hate KR. I was fine for months, hardly any knock at all cruising around town. Then to my surprise, I see a 3.9 KR, then 5.6 the next day...now almost every single day I'm seeing KR up to 3.9! Thankfully this is not during WOT, as I haven't gone WOT in a few weeks. But, what gives?!

Maybe I'll swap my plugs out? I'm fully bolted with stock turbo and run 1 step colder NGK's. I've read conflicting views on opinions of plugs relating to KR, but it's worth a shot I guess. Probably worth it for me to check out injector seals as well.
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Man, I hate KR. I was fine for months, hardly any knock at all cruising around town. Then to my surprise, I see a 3.9 KR, then 5.6 the next day...now almost every single day I'm seeing KR up to 3.9! Thankfully this is not during WOT, as I haven't gone WOT in a few weeks. But, what gives?!

Maybe I'll swap my plugs out? I'm fully bolted with stock turbo and run 1 step colder NGK's. I've read conflicting views on opinions of plugs relating to KR, but it's worth a shot I guess. Probably worth it for me to check out injector seals as well.


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Pd tuning...something else I have been debating, while I've been thinking about doing another set of plugs because I'm still running the ones i tuned on, which i feel to those tend to be more abused from adjustment of afr and they were also in the motor under break in. But at around 10k on my motor, I started getting some knock on the highway at partial throttle at the same rpm everytime never anywhere else. Between 3k and 3.6k rpm cruising I'll get 3 to 5 degrees of knock, let off or gas it, it goes away.
So the fact it only happens at that one area of rpm, tells me it's prolly a vibration of some sort that's happening, I have never seen it under WOT. I have also theorized to myself if when you start to see that knock if that's a sign of the VVT phaser or solenoid whatever u wanna call it, going out. Because the day I started seeing it at those rpm ranges, I seemed to start hearing more of half second tick after long standing startups. Prolly just me correlating the two when there is no relation, just seemed coincidental.
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From personal experience tho, when I did my motor, my mech that I had my car at didn't know I was waiting for my CS injectors seals, he put everything together. We went out to test with new stock seals, blew them right out, and was getting crazy knock when it would start to see boost. My CS beryllium seals came and sealed that shit right up. Haven't had an issue there since. And I actually have had to pull them out and reuse them with out a single issue. They say they are one time use, and if I was pushing 5 or 600 id replace them. But I'm only pushing around 350 and the original Corksport seals keep working.
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Man, I hate KR. I was fine for months, hardly any knock at all cruising around town. Then to my surprise, I see a 3.9 KR, then 5.6 the next day...now almost every single day I'm seeing KR up to 3.9! Thankfully this is not during WOT, as I haven't gone WOT in a few weeks. But, what gives?!

Maybe I'll swap my plugs out? I'm fully bolted with stock turbo and run 1 step colder NGK's. I've read conflicting views on opinions of plugs relating to KR, but it's worth a shot I guess. Probably worth it for me to check out injector seals as well.
Out of curiosity, did you happen to do an oil change before your KR started happening regularly?
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Originally Posted by Mazduhspeed6 View Post
From personal experience tho, when I did my motor, my mech that I had my car at didn't know I was waiting for my CS injectors seals, he put everything together. We went out to test with new stock seals, blew them right out, and was getting crazy knock when it would start to see boost. My CS beryllium seals came and sealed that shit right up. Haven't had an issue there since. And I actually have had to pull them out and reuse them with out a single issue. They say they are one time use, and if I was pushing 5 or 600 id replace them. But I'm only pushing around 350 and the original Corksport seals keep working.
hmm, maybe some seals are in order for me. Thankfully I too have not seen knock during WOT. I would just love to cruise from my house to work without seeing like 3.9 or 4.5 registered KR, even if this knock isn't something to worry about.

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Out of curiosity, did you happen to do an oil change before your KR started happening regularly?
Hmm, I actually did change my oil like 2-3 weeks ago, which would have been right around the time I started noticing the consistent KR. However, I can't say for sure I wasn't getting the knock before that. Why do you ask?

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Hmm, I actually did change my oil like 2-3 weeks ago, which would have been right around the time I started noticing the consistent KR. However, I can't say for sure I wasn't getting the knock before that. Why do you ask?
I should have been more clear; did you change the type, brand, or viscosity of oil you use? It may be what's causing your part throttle knock. Read the linked article

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I should have been more clear; did you change the type, brand, or viscosity of oil you use? It may be what's causing your part throttle knock. Read the linked article

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My apologies, I have not changed the type of oil. Routinely run Rotella T6 5w40.
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