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| Apple, a pathetic company who got 2 chances to remain in today's market.... By Haltech A little history about me.. im older than most of you... and i grew up as technology advanced.. GUI's were a dream and raw mhz speed was something that never played into the role of a PC.. The math co-processor was the big performance tool on a computer. Commodore. Probably one of the most innovative companies ever to come out, were based in the UK and had a HEAVY international footprint on all 7 continents. They were also the only company who could eek every ounce of performance from a motorola 68000 16/32-bit processors. Commodore, while building typical 8 bit interfaces on the popular US versions of the Vic20/C64/C128, already had full blown 32bit 68000s running a GUI known as Workbench on an Amiga in 1983. Steve Jobs caught wind of this and went to Xerox where he saw a GUI based copying machine that he heard about that was inspired off a GUI from some computer shown off in England(Amiga). Commodore was still a full 18 months shy of releasing the Amiga worldwide. He was really excited by what he saw and made the mistake of telling Bill Gates... you know the story from there... skip So while the two were leveraging each other on the GUI side of things for the PC market, Commodore releases the first Amiga in 1985 while handing Mac its ass on performance. Commodore developed two stand alone chipsets ( Agnus - Video / Paula - Sound ) to offload the powerhouse moto 68x which was fully pipelined. It do could graphics at blinding speed and smoke any PC in its presence... It was over taking MAC in video production, used in broadcast for live weather maps,etc while Atari was owning the studio recording market with an exact duplicate machine. Commodore got big balls due to its success and tried to take on Sega with a game console... the CD32 (32 bit game console).. which failed and bankrupted the company. Apple got its first reprieve and survived, but barely. So.. that was life number one for copy cat, Apple. Number two reprieve came in the late 90s when moto, ibm and apple were trying to push RISC arch onto the world with the Mac using Power PC. Mhz meant nothing, its all about the pipeline.. Which was true because motos would cook x86 CISC for lumch. At any rate, AMD comes along in 1999 to shatter apples world with the introduction of the first full production hardware backwards compatible X86/X86-64 processor thanks to Alpha. It was ripping both Apple and Intel a new asshole and apple fell again in a coma because Intel woke up and had to start making pipelines count. Apple tried hard when IBM began building the PPC with copper interconnect, but it still couldn't keep up with the CISC powerhouses. Had it not been for Bill Gates investing millions into Apple, they would of been dead, forever. So, here is where apple comes in again. Apple has effectively taken introduced technologies and made them compatible with all hipsters to use. Steve was not very technical... he was rather a simpleton. A Harmony remote would fuck the guy up. So apple would piggy back off failed products that had shitty marketing ( IE: MP3 players ) and make a mark for themselves. This allowed them to invest heavily into a FreeBSD operating system for future macs which has a horrid OS (OS8/9 anyone?) and convert the complicated world of windows, into the dumbed down world of Steve Jobs ( Trust me, i know whats best for your computer experience ). PC's were growing at an alarming rate and the avg joe could jump into this new internet created by Quayle. At the same time, viewing porn and kill their windows machines with virus's. Apple knew they had a small chance in hell catching AMD/Intel powered PC's, so Steve had to invest into something that would make APPLE, relevant. Apple began to stock pile shitloads of money off their iMac success and decided to produce a freebsd based mp3 player with a GUI.. which could then be put into a phone. Is this another technology apple brought to the table? No, Steve hated anything Microsoft and didn't like Windows CE or Blackberry. So he sought out to make it easier to use for fellow hippies like himself. What people fail to realize is, he figured out how Bill Gates became so rich... So after 30 yrs, Steve finally had a device he could have full control of that would require people to pay to use it.. ... Apple App Store/iTunes So, apple dominates the fuckin market with the hipster device that killed listening to quality music recordings and made an assload of money doing it. The genius part is, he made it work as a phone and made it operate apps like it was a mac. So people could use it for everyday tasks because of its simplicity, size and ease of use. Apple is nothing more than a marketing company.. and a brilliant one. However, they never played fair either... So i just find its ironic that Samsumg did basically the same thing apple would do. Some say that Steve made the mistake of working with samsung to design their GUIs and other physical features on the phone. Somewhere along the lines Steve pissed them off ( no surprise ) and samsung did what they had to do. I don't discredit apple for taking the media technology that was all fragmented and rolling it into an all in one device. It was fuckin genius and i cannot believe he actually thought of it all by himself.. What irks me about apple is their intellect greed. Steve took what MS did with software licensing and placed it on the largest scale to date with a handheld device. However, since apple isnt a creator of technology, google came in and kicked their ass rather quickly. Now apple is trying to innovate off Android but its not working out for them. There's many beginning to leave the world of apple because of its control freak attitude. People are beginning to figure out, their bullshit updates don't equal the cost of having to buy new phones. So, Apple may remain successful, but they are on the path to the downward spiral shortly. They are no longer the innovators... I can't wait to see apple enter the world of televisions... this is where they will get their asses kicked into oblivion by Samsung, Panasonic and LG.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score @Haltech - Its a shame you removed the groan button. You really need to brush up on your Apple history as you're WAY off on many points in that article. You do realize Steve Jobs just made the decisions on what went to market right? Then he marketed it. It was the engineers who made the Apple concepts and then brought them to the Apple Exec's to show off and see where they could take them. Yes Steve Jobs had some decisions in regards to user interface and finished devices; but Apple does not and did not operate as you suggest. Furthermore.. Google has not "kicked their ass". Theres not one Android device that has sold as much as a single iphone. Not to my knowledge. Furthermore, Google Android was the ultimate rip off. Ultimately designed to be a Blackberry competitor but as soon as Google Execs saw the iPhone the game shifted. Which is ironic when you say Apple stole from Google...... |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I don't think ANYONE is stupid. But some arguments people make I think are stupid, as do people think some I make are stupid. Human Condition I suppose. I say stupid shit as does everyone else. But when people say something that I think is out of left field and doesn't have a factual basis; yes i'll groan. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score The Steve Jobs bio that came out after he died is a great read. It doesn't really pull punches, he was basically portrayed as an asshole, albeit one with a lot of determination to make his company successful. The book is great because it is as much a bio on the personal computer revolution in the seventies and onward as it is about Jobs. And what was special about Jobs wasn't as much his brilliance as it was his ruthless ability to extract incredible work out of a lot of talented people. He was narcissistic and arrogant and hated by a LOT of people. Good book. Jobs was all about form factor, he wanted clean and elegant looking, slot less, buttonless devices that were intuitive to use. It was somebody else's job to figure out how to squeeze everything into the package he wanted and to make it work. I like some of the products, especially the macbook pro laptops, expensive but unrivaled physical build quality - but there's a lot about Apple I don't really like. I can say the same about Google, though... Commodore, man that brings me back to my high school days - I had an Amiga 500, what a great computer that was. The game library was awesome, killer games like Shadow of the Beast and It Came From the Desert. And there was a really kick ass Elvira game. Some good times.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I work for Verizon slangin phones for a living. I've sold the I phone for 4 generations though, I worked for att over three years. Sadly, att sales reps are a bunch of sheep, and for the longest time the I phone was the best phone they had. From a sales perspective, the fucker works, all the time. And you have to be full retard to not know how to use it. But does anyone else remember that the first I phone couldn't even send picture messages? They have always been behind the smartphone curve. And only coming out with a phone once a year isn't helping there case at all. Technology moves way to fast for that. I will admit that I am excited for the next generation I phone. Finally at least the poor saps who want one can get 4G now. I phones are reliable and elegant. I'll give them that. But they are a bitch to upgrade and every pompous doucher has one. Audi (minus reliable) I'll take my larger screen, battery sucking, data connection dropping, overheating at times, but always substantially faster Nexus over it any day though. Because I can make it MY phone. Not apples. Mazda (minus... Eh you see what I did there) Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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| Intel Mac came from no PPC support anymore... Otherwise, the MAC would of been dead. Wasn't a brilliant idea from SJ whatsoever.. they were out of options. Steve vowed to never use an X86 processor in a MAC because thats what PC's use... SO Macs, are now PC's.... Could you imagine the blood bath with PPC vs the I7 Core logic today? It wouldnt even be fucking funny.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Cannon fodder - did not play that one. Might have to get an emulator going one of these days, relive some of the old-school gaming goodness. Like an idiot I sold my A500 for next to nothing in the early 90s, It would be cool as shit to fire that thing up now, 20 years later. A shame... In the computer world, some of the best products were the ones that didn't make it. Sega Dreamcast, another example. In grade school I remember the Vic20 with the tape drive. Now that is fucking old school... Waiting 15-20 minutes to load up a game file that was probably less than a megabyte, lol. God damn I probably sound like such an old fart right now. Sorry about off-topic.
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SJ vowed many different things. But that was one of his best attributes, he changed and adapted to the conditions of the market and tech at that time. PPC vs I7 today would be a bloodbath.
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Not update your phone to the "latest" software version that slows your phone down so bad you are forced to get a newer one. Unless delta updates are of the jail broken variety, I don't think we mean the same thing. Sent from my SCH-I905 using Tapatalk 2
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I agree with you, as for software modifications ios is hardly setup for that. I can see in the future that being undone. Apple can only keep iOS locked up for so long until something gives. Jailbreaking is nice but the jailbreak devs seriously need to take a step back and look at WTF they're doing. Jailbreaking makes just about every iPhone unstable after a while. Its partially due to all the freaking dependancies running i the background. Jailbreak devs need to get a handle on that BS, they also need to make Cydia better. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I have been telling friends and family how Apple's marketing strategy is a black hole for years. You buy one product but can't put music on it without using the worst program ever called iTunes. And for Xmas one year my family got an iPod dock, I hate the thing so much. Sure it sounds good cuz its Bose but it literally can only be used with an iPod, no Auxiliary or anything. That sort of un-userfriendlyness is what makes me hate Apple and I hope Google takes them down big time. I have been hacking my android phones for a few years and I love it even though its not as refined an OS as the one on the iPhone. But I deal with it because I know if I went Apple I would be forced to buy everything Apple just to get the full experience. /rage Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Ya I've tried a few other programs for putting music onto an iPod and they work just not in a nice way when compared to iTunes. I wish we had gotten to choose which dock, but it was a present. Its just a pain that ppl give that sort of thing for a present assuming everyone has an iPod. I do, but I use my android phone for music 90% of the time so that's the problem. If the dock didn't have Apple on it, I bet there would be all sort of hook ups like USB, auxiliary, L/R ect. But that's Apples plan, make it only Apple compatible so they have Bose build it that way. At least that's what I see when I use their products. My brother had a MacBook pro and it didn't run anything I wanted to run. I put windows on a few of my friends macbooks so they could actually play games... I've just had a bad run with their stuff, I'm sure it all works as its intended. Just not for me. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2
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Sorry about the dock -- Maybe that bluetooth adaptor will help | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Well that's good to hear, I can only take so many hours of tinkering when it would work fine on the other comps. I never thought of a bluetooth adapter! Ill look that up. Would be handy for playing music at parties and not worrying about my phone being stolen. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2
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It needs tinkering because its not a Windows computer. It wont run Windows applications. Its a Linux/BSD Based Operating system. Theres not much tinkering you just have to know what to do and become accustom to the Unix/BSD way of doing things. | |
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, so im not a complete hater. Thanks for the insight
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Someone at apple must be giving you excellent blow jobs for you to campaign so hard for them. Automation Torrents NFC Flash player The ridiculous ease of setting up corporate sync emails (I do this every day for people and the I phone doesn't even come close) The I phone has imessage and face time. Even siri has better counter parts these days. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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