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Although the new Blackberry 10 Keyboard looks nice too. It will be interesting to see that compared to swype. Newegg.com - Acer Iconia-6120 Dual-Screen Touchbook Intel Core i5 480M(2.66GHz) 14" 4GB Memory 640GB HDD 5400rpm Intel HD Graphics | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Fuck Apple. itunes is ripoff, amazon sells music cheaper. their laptops blow, theres nothing pro about a dual core, especially when its $1500! They make something like 26% profit on their products, companys like lenovo make 1%, im not wasting my money to make a company with 100 Billion in cash any richer. their phones are SOOOO far behind the competition. with the latest apple VS samsung lawsuit, its sad how much money they spent on both sides of that just to pass the expense onto us the consumer. several other countries japan, UK found that samsung did NOT copy apple. its all one big game. apple even uses samsung built processers in their phones. I love my Samsung Galaxy Nexus, my Nexus 7 and all my past Android phones, and will never go to apple.
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*sighs*.. Alright.. First of all they call them Macbook Pro's because they are meant to be marketed to the Design, Programming, and Developer communities. "Pro" is a marketing term meant for a upper scale laptop. They put "Pro" on Macbooks because a while ago they sold White Polycarbonate laptops. Which did not have the specs of the Macbook Pros. The poly-carbonite ones were geared toward college kids and had significant price reductions. Then in 2008 Apple came out with the new Metal Macbook Pro design and phased out the polycarbonate macbooks. Then Apple did a reverse course and refreshed Macbook Pro line out of metal/better parts and returned with the polycarbonate macbook. The reason they call it Macbook Pro is because it usually has higher upgraded components than the original polycarbonate macbook. Secondly, if you're basing a processor based on the number of cores it has you're an idiot. Theres 20x more that goes into what defines a processor and how efficiently a processor works. Their processors are more than adequate for what the average people and even developers use. I run a 2.8GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo (2008 MBP). On any given day I have 7 Internet windows open, 2 Expresso TextEditor Windows Open, Fireworks CS6, Photoshop CS6, Spotify, Email, xCode 4.5, iPhone Simulator, and on some days even parallels or eclipse. I rarely if ever experience a lag anywhere in the system and I multi-task very much. I have my environments split between different workspaces. xCode/Iphone Sim in one, Fireworks/Photoshop in another, and everything else in the 1st workspace. Two fingers on my magic mouse switches between them. Which I do regularly. So if you're trying to argue that the processor sucks or is underpowered its not. If you're trying to argue you want more bang for you buck, then thats fine for you. No, Onto the fact of Macbook Pro's costing 1500$ and Apple making 30% Profit. Those numbers are deceiving. First off, the cheapest Macbook is the 11" Air at 999$ And the Pro is the 13" at 1199$ However if you swing over to their discount store you can get the 11" at 749, and the 13" Pro at 929$. Secondly have you done any analysis on the Macbook sales at all? Apple makes 30% profit off every macbook sold, based on the HARDWARE ONLY. That does not include any of the OS X Development/Support costs. It does not include licensing costs or whatever costs go into the Mac App Store, iTunes Store, and iOS App Store. Granted most of those costs are subsidized by the 30% profit Apple takes to sell on the store, but theres more to the story. That 30% also doesn't include R&D. Apple is thorough in their R&D. The indicator in the Macbook Pro's for Sleep is laser cut into the metal chassis using a revolutionary technology they bought. Furthermore, that 30% is decreasing every year. As Apple sells more macbook pro's that 30% decreases and so does the cost of a Macbook. But I don't expect you to believe me. http://www.trefis.com/company?hm=AAP...from=rhs&c=top Also, a part of Samsung that deals with MFGing manufactures the Apple iOS Processors. Apple designs their own processors since the A4/A5. Samsung also MFGed their memory. But thats not the same part of Samsung that designs Phones. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score @Digi all that graph shows is in increase of almost 2% in the last 4 year, and a potential decrease of 3% in the next 7 years. big deal. and trust me, i know dual cores. i built my own rig, with a E8400 dual core overclocked to 3.6ghz and it spanked everything but some i7s.
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I'm really glad you understand processors from building your own computer. But please, tell me why Window's WPF Platform is more Processor Intensive than Apple's Cocoa? The point i'm trying to make is that one of two processors may process 1+1 faster than the other. But when it comes to computers its not 1+1. Its a shit-load more complex and complicated than that. If you take time to understand computers you will find that almost all Apple Projects are written in Obj-C and compiled into native code. Windows .Net and Windows 8 Applications are not. They are interpreted applications and then are transmitted on the fly into native code. Which at best is a decent performance reduction over native code last I checked. Not to mention the internals of a processor, motherboard, and memory. Last edited by DiGi Faggot; 09-11-2012 at 08:05 AM. | |
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MacBook Pro's aren't any faster than Window Laptops either. MacBook Pro's and Mac Mini's will choke at HD video rendering no matter what the configuration. Until you buy a Mac Pro, you aren't even getting a real machine. I can't wait for you to justify how much better their laptop's will be when you see them coming with iOS in the coming years.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score My 2year old Macbook Pro runs twice as fast as my moms new Windows laptop and the windows laptop has a faster processor and more RAM. Not to mention Apple replaced my first macbook for free with a new Macbook pro after I physically damaged my own product on accident. Some people may hate their high prices but their service is outstanding IMHO |
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My microprocessor engineer class professor said it best when comparing the Pentium 4 to the Athlon back in 1999... "You can have a mexican worker picking your crops or a black guy picking your crops. The black guy looks physically stronger than the mexican guy. Who do you think is more efficient and harder working?" He was trying to explain pipeline architecture. He also outlined racism for the entire class as well, but he was spot on with this analogy.
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BTW I posted on that thread you had about the accident, hows everything going with that?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score The whole thing about apple laptops running faster than windows pcs is true to an extent. I have a laptop thay was running windows xp and it was extremely slow. I installed Ubuntu (linux) on it and it ran a lot faster. I am by no means a computer guru but all i know is that windows is a very slow OS and linux is much better
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Apple made the decision to go with a bsd operating system in 1999. There's very little fragmentation with *nix systems. Windows was supposed to break out of registry 3 versions ago but people complained about breaking compatibility. Windows 7 is prob the best OS to come out from MS. It handles memory very well and has little file fragmentation. Owning a Mac doesn't make you a power user however.. Its designed to just work and is limited to what a user can modify for his work environment. I don't like such restrictions and i prefer to allocate memory to what im using. Ill give Mac some kudos for bringing bsd to the mainstream, but in the same breath, ill ridicule the shit out of them for their bullshit restrictions they place on taking over its memory handling and installation of apps.. Esp with Mountain Lion.
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Secondly, no they're not. But the software is more optimized and more stable. You can't sit there with a straight face and tell me .net is as fast as native code. You just can't. Heres one benchmark.. Head-to-head benchmark: C++ vs .NET - CodeProject On the double tests and such theres a .10 difference at its closest, but on the sudoku example which is a more real-world test.. Furthermore .Net was found slower than native C++ in most of the tests. In the end of the article they even state that .Net was made to perform as well as possible and most programmers wont take that time. [img]http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=bhg&chtt=Sudoku:+C%23+vs+C%2B%2B&chs=640 x400&chd=t:8.64|4.93|5.12|4.81|4.6|2.24|2.34|2.58| 2.32|2.33|2.32&chds=0,8.643&chxr=0,0,8.643&chg=5.7 85,0,1,1,0,0&chdl=C%23+Mono|C%23+x64+.NET3|C%23+x6 4+.NET4|C%23+x86+.NET3|C%23+x86+.NET4|C%2B%2B+x64+ VC10+SSE2|C%2B%2B+x64+VC9+SSE2|C%2B%2B+x86+VC10+SS E2|C%2B%2B+x86+VC9+default|C%2B%2B+x86+VC9+NCI|C%2 B%2B+x86+VC9+SSE2&chxt=x,y,x&chxl=2:|fast|Time+in+ Seconds|slow|-1:|&chco=DCDCDC,54D2D8,2DF6FF,3492D0,059CFF,FF2D2D ,D85454,FF5C05,82411E,A25126,D06A34&chm=N*f*,DCDCD C,0,-1,14|N*f*,54D2D8,1,-1,14|N*f*,2DF6FF,2,-1,14|N*f*,3492D0,3,-1,14|N*f*,059CFF,4,-1,14|N*f*,FF2D2D,5,-1,14|N*f*,D85454,6,-1,14|N*f*,FF5C05,7,-1,14|N*f*,82411E,8,-1,14|N*f*,A25126,9,-1,14|N*f*,D06A34,10,-1,14[/img] And if you ever want to know why videogames require more and more power.. here you go.. code4k: Benchmarking C#/.Net Direct3D 11 APIs vs native C++ Base-line Macbook Pros, Processor to Processor 1+1, Probably not. But as you climb in the tiers and spend more you get more. Todays top Macbook Pro's are just as fast as the baseline MacPro; and faster than the 2008 MacPro. So, 2200$ Macbook Pro Retina > 2500$ Mac Pro. But yes, once your start getting up there, once you start spending 3-4 grand on a MacPro you're going to get much better performance. As for video rendering, my 2008 Macbook Pro rendered raw 720P in less than 4 minutes. While I was working on other things. It can render video, and it can do it as well as anything in its class. But if your looking at rendering bluray from a red camera.. Well then you're gonna need a lot more power. But the point is, your comment that they "Choke" is bullshit. Lastly, iOS isn't coming to OS X. If you knew ANYTHING about Apple you would know this. Apple is ADAMANTLY against putting iOS on OS X. | |
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Windows 7 is easily the best OS to come from MS. But on a benchmark stand point Windows 8 is faster at the core. Mac Isn't locked down as much as you think it is. It's an egg. On the outside it runs picture perfect.. but deep inside its still unix/bsd and you can still break into all the details. Installation of Apps isn't controlled by the App Store, its a setting just like UAC is. Pretty much the same thing as UAC really. Power Users will just turn it right off. | |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score And here's where I agree with all of you Apple fanboys. Macmini, by Samsung: Samsung - Series 3 Chromebox Desktop - 4GB Memory - 16GB Solid State Drive - XE300M22-A01US And what does this remind you of? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Computer...at241800050013 Samsung is just asking for it at this point. I'll be siding with Apple in the coming (inevitable) lawsuit to follow the release of these products. Still an Android fan, but these products are a shameless fucking copy of Apple products. Shame on you Samsung. And here I sided with you. ![]() And Google, shame on you for putting your OS (which I thought would be pretty sweet) on these devices. |
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If you want to blame someone for the crap performance of a lot of Windows machines, blame the OEM's who load laptops up with garbage software, or the user who somehow finds a way to infect it with malware. Any OS can be taken to its knees by crap software and users, including OSX.
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Or ya know.. like the whole operating system.. and applications being interpreted now as opposed to native code. That could be a big deal too.... People fuck up their computers, thats no lie. But just look at my posts and you'll see how much better native code runs. The amount of interpreted code in windows now.. well they might aswell sell out to VMWare because its almost a virtual machine. Alienware laptops are the shit. I love me some MXM. Apple's Older iMac's had MXM too, I dont know about the new ones. I wish Apple and HP would go to MXM in their laptops too. MXM is pure dank. I know the HP Touchsmarts had MXM as did the older iMac's. But no laptops as of late. Last edited by DiGi Faggot; 09-12-2012 at 10:56 AM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score It's almost time for the next nexus announcement, so I'm stoked for that. My girls giving me her upgrade so I've got one in November, looking at note 2 if nothing else impresses me. Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Wow the iphone 5 is a total let down, doesn't even include nfc. I feel sorry for you ifollowers hoping for something big. At this rate they'll be a decade behind android. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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| Not Ranked : 0 score haha, apple is such a fail. unfortunately, this will not matter to the diehard fan boys, they will buy it no matter what, and pretend like its awesome... so silly, apple could be so much cooler if they went back to their roots... honestly i think their hardware is \decent\, its the OS, cost, retard consumers and evil company that i have a problem with. i just read today that HTC might be getting a ban on apple 4g products in USA. FUCK yeah HTC! get em!!! GET EM!!! HTC is Brewing BIG Trouble in Apple's 4G Foray | Wall St. Cheat Sheet back OT, HTC>motorola>samsung>nokia>puddle of excrement>iphone>iphone fanboys edit, i reread the article and it made me laugh.. "According to Bloomberg, HTC lawyer Tom Jarvis told the court the company was the first to sell Google (NASDAQ:GOOG) Android and 4G devices. “HTC is an innovator,” Jarvis told the judge. “It’s no Johnny-come-lately.” I am a bit of a HTC fan boy, since i bought the first G1 this tmobile store sold until the phone i have now. they just make solid phones, not cheesy shit like samsung Last edited by ms34m3; 09-12-2012 at 03:00 PM. |
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