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I am ready to purchase the Meth Kit from Devils Own and wanted everyone's input on what Stage I should get.

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Stage 2, you need the controller to dial in the mixture... Choose the D03 and D05 nozzles.
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Stage 2 for sure and I think your the guy who asked me if I was pulling the mustang on youtube. Yeah I was pulling him hard and if we didnt let off because of traffic i would of put a full car on him by 130. He traps 110-112

If you had a standback I would say get the stage 1 and the profuel from cpe but since I see you have the AP you will want the controller.
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Thanks both JoshC23 and Haltech for your posts, I want to get some feedback from users before I purchase the kit.
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With AP, stage 2 progressive controller is a must.
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With AP, stage 2 progressive controller is a must.
So I can understand better, why is the Stage 2 a must with the AP?

I most likely will get Stage 2 but curious to know why is it needed?
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You need it to control when you want the meth to begin flowing and at what rate do you want to be 100%.

With stage 1, its on or off, which will most likely, bog you down. Each car is different, each run diff nozzles and bolts ons, so it takes you about 20 mins of driving to fine tune it with the stage 2 controller. Also, on extremely hot days or humid days, you can increase it. On very cold days, you can turn it down.

Depending on the mods, 3 or 5 nozzle will lower your AFR by one full point. If you run 100% mixture, 1.3 pts.. 70/30, 1 full point.
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cruzito, I haz stage 2 DO on my car..... I would rather lose my left testicle than go to a non progressive setup.

plus's

a) simpler install (believe it or not there are less mechanical parts)
b) less consumption of meth when not nbeeded (when u are part throttle, part boost u dont spray it all to shit
c) adjust it in cabin (provided the controller is near u)
d) you wont bog and easier to tune for......the 2 stages makes the added fuel a smoother transition


so.... get it. end of story.

I have done about 4-5 stage 2 kits and they are both easy and practical
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Thanks Lenny127 and Haltech,

I will go with the Stage 2 set up.

Another thing what tank size is everyone running? Is the 2.5 gallon one too much or should I stick with the 4 quart tank?
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I'm running a 1 gallon tank. As far as refilling the tank depends on your driving habits and where you have the controller settings at. I have gone through 3 - 5 full tanks of gas before refilling the meth tank, but then again I don't spend my commute WOT
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The stage 2 kit is nice but its $100 extra bucks it just allows you to spray smaller percentages at lower boost. I got stage 1 and works for me comes on full blast and works great with high or medium boost. I have the boost switch set to 6psi and the car never bogs and boost temps dive below ambient. I say if your rolling in the dough get stage 2 or if on a budget get stage 1 and save $100...
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Yeah but the OP is running the AP, and you have the Standback+Profuel controller correct.
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Yeah but the OP is running the AP, and you have the Standback+Profuel controller correct.
Nope I might get that eventually but i'm perfectly happy with boost switch. works fine...
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Nope I might get that eventually but i'm perfectly happy with boost switch. works fine...
Are you also running the 1 gallon tank?
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Are you also running the 1 gallon tank?
Na I just use the windshield washer resivour its easy you just drill the whole and screw in the nozzle like you would with a gallon tank.
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I am thinking of starting with 50-50 mix, I heard of HEET Methanol and some type of distalled water for the mix.

Where is everyone buying both the Methanol and Water, and what price?

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if you look around should be able to get meth for 2.25- 2.50 a gallon
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pure meth or go home.

water is for the birds
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Defiantly cheaper to get it by the gallon but HEET is 99.9% methanol and .001% distilled water. (according to an email I got from HEET) and you can get it at walmart $1.27. So if you running low its an alternative.
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Defiantly cheaper to get it by the gallon but HEET is 99.9% methanol and .001% distilled water. (according to an email I got from HEET) and you can get it at walmart $1.27. So if you running low its an alternative.
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Where do you purchase your meth?
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Where do you purchase your meth?
I mostly get the Devils own 50/50 mix ($8 a gallon here locally) and dilute it with HEET. I liked 100% meth but I noticed it "seems" could be in my head... That with 100%meth boost temps don't drop nearly as much and I get significantly more knock with 100%meth vs 80-90% meth. 50/50 defiantly sucks compared to 80% meth. So I like mine mix to have a little water in there...
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If I go with 100% Meth, Where could I get the Meth?
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I get VP meth from a local racing shop. They get it by the tub lol

I remember a thread on the different washer fluids that included meth that would work but who still does that?
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Where is everyone buying their Meth.....PLEASE POST!
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For the 250psi pump users,

Are you running 250 psi, 200 psi or 150psi?

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run 250psi...that said i have a 150psi pump and it works fine.

I buy methanol from a local "performance shop" They sell VP fuels and have the VP M1 Methanol. It's like $6 a gallon. I buy it at 5 gallon quantities at a time.. I have ran both 100 meth and 50/50. I don't notice a huge difference, but I don't have anything like an EGT gauge anymore to compare stuff like that. I run 50/50 right now because its cheaper (not that running pure is that bad), and it's what I have at the moment.

I would say DO3 nozzle and 50/50 is a good place to start. Keep in mind 50/50 is by weight, not volume. There's some calculators on here to figure out how much water and how much meth makes 50/50. I mix 4 gallons of water of 5 gallons of methanol for 9 gallons of a perfect 50/50 mix.
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Originally Posted by aaronc7 View Post
run 250psi...that said i have a 150psi pump and it works fine.

I buy methanol from a local "performance shop" They sell VP fuels and have the VP M1 Methanol. It's like $6 a gallon. I buy it at 5 gallon quantities at a time.. I have ran both 100 meth and 50/50. I don't notice a huge difference, but I don't have anything like an EGT gauge anymore to compare stuff like that. I run 50/50 right now because its cheaper (not that running pure is that bad), and it's what I have at the moment.

I would say DO3 nozzle and 50/50 is a good place to start. Keep in mind 50/50 is by weight, not volume. There's some calculators on here to figure out how much water and how much meth makes 50/50. I mix 4 gallons of water of 5 gallons of methanol for 9 gallons of a perfect 50/50 mix.
Aaron,

If I am doing 80% Meth and 20% Water, is the amount calculated by weight or by volume?

Say for example I have 4 gallons of Meth, how many gallons of water do I need for a perfect 80% to 20%?

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Originally Posted by 11cruzito11 View Post
Aaron,

If I am doing 80% Meth and 20% Water, is the amount calculated by weight or by volume?

Say for example I have 4 gallons of Meth, how many gallons of water do I need for a perfect 80% to 20%?

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a simple calculator? lol use ounces
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Originally Posted by gsrtype1 View Post
a simple calculator? lol use ounces
That's what I've been using, but I saw that Aaron said he mixed 5 gallons of Meth to 4 gallons of Water, and got a 50 - 50 Mix?

I thought it would be 4 gallons of Meth to 4 gallons of Water, a 50 -50 mix.
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