My FAILED attempt to install Autotech internals :(

[Worbit]

EDIT:
Please feel free to GROAN the fuck out of me since I should have read all the stickies on this board

Long story short, we were following the Autotech instructions which said to remove the pressure release valve and when we started to rebuild the pump we heard a snap when we were screwing the valve back on. Now we get some serious movement in the valve and it throws a code......talk about a learning experience. I don't know much about engines so I'm not too pissed at myself but this still sucks.

Broken fuel pump :( - YouTube

Broken fuel pump :( - YouTube

After talking to some people I found out that you DO NOT have to remove the pressure release valve when swapping out the internals. I hope that this thread helps others who install internals so they don't do the same thing I've done. Now I am in search of a whole new pump since Mazda doesn't sell just the valve by itself.

[kritz]

Dood, there is a sticky here on the forum on that! Arrrrg!!!

[Worbit]

I missed that thread clearly......read some of the others but lesson learned.

[Tokay444]

See what SPEED6 KILLAH can get you in the way of parts. He seems to be quite resourceful.

[kritz]

No need to remove the spill valve unless cleaning it. The complete pump needs to be removed and then the pump must be held in a bench vice and an 18mm deep socket needs to be put over the spring piston assembly to gain access to remove teh OEM piston and sleeve. What did you use to remove the spill valve? I hope a 32 mm open end wrench, you prolly broke the plastic plug on it. You make me so mad! Ask for help next time you are in over your head please.

[Worbit]

Originally Posted by kritz No need to remove the spill valve unless cleaning it. The complete pump needs to be removed and then the pump must be held in a bench vice and an 18mm deep socket needs to be put over the spring piston assembly to gain access to remove teh OEM piston and sleeve. What did you use to remove the spill valve? I hope a 32 mm open end wrench, you prolly broke the plastic plug on it. You make me so mad! Ask for help next time you are in over your head please.

I thought I had read enough threads on the process and figured it was ok to follow the autotech instructions. I was trying to finally do something on my own rather than rely on others and the conclusion is that I should stick to getting help lol. Anyways, my friend found a dealer that can get a full pump to us by tomorrow, he's just double checking to make sure its in stock.

[richkidone]

Originally Posted by Worbit I thought I had read enough threads on the process and figured it was ok to follow the autotech instructions. I was trying to finally do something on my own rather than rely on others and the conclusion is that I should stick to getting help lol. Anyways, my friend found a dealer that can get a full pump to us by tomorrow, he's just double checking to make sure its in stock.

Check prices and see if the cp-e pump cost the same as stocker and just get that.


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[breakfstincluded]

nice sig

[Bob-o]

Extra test pipe for the extra powah. Must be a genpu thing.

@OP Ask for help next time so you can avoid things like this! This is one of the installs that you need to have go 100% correct

[Spoofmastafly]

Blows man, Autotech instructions are ment for the VW. Try sourcing a pump from a junkyard. Might get lucky! I know I saw some OEM pumps forsell in the forsell section.

[Worbit]

So the dealer is saying he can get us the OEM pump for $399....that sounds a little too cheap correct? Shouldn't this run me around $650+?

I'm also looking at ebay at this point.....I'm just not sure I wanna get a pump from a wrecked car
http://www.ebay.com/itm/05-06-07-MAZ...3f8fd3&vxp=mtr

[richkidone]

Maybe Ebay one has internals done already lol.



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[Etipp98]

Ive seen new pumps go for 300 on here. ms6ms6 usually is the one selling them that cheap.

[Worbit]

brand new pump was just purchased from local dealer for $399 + Tax

[SPEED6 KILLAH]

pm me I can get you a deal on one

[rodrigo]

expensive lesson...... research shit b4 hacking at it man... wtf is this forum for ??

[Worbit]

Originally Posted by rodrigo expensive lesson...... research shit b4 hacking at it man... wtf is this forum for ??

That's the thing, I thought I had done my research

[jack_hammer]

Originally Posted by Worbit That's the thing, I thought I had done my research

fuck it. things like that happen time to time. at least you're not on here complaining.

[Worbit]

Thanks to TWOptSL0W I will soon have a fuel pump for my car. Thanks again man!

[rodrigo]

yeah at least youre not some whinning cunt that blew up cuz he floored it in 6th at 25 mph uphill

[pzr2874]

Originally Posted by kritz No need to remove the spill valve unless cleaning it. The complete pump needs to be removed and then the pump must be held in a bench vice and an 18mm deep socket needs to be put over the spring piston assembly to gain access to remove teh OEM piston and sleeve. What did you use to remove the spill valve? I hope a 32 mm open end wrench, you prolly broke the plastic plug on it. You make me so mad! Ask for help next time you are in over your head please.

This is why people need to stop making half-assed installs on this (how-to's or whatever)

Do what he says with a vice and clean EVERYTHING

[Worbit]

Originally Posted by rodrigo yeah at least youre not some whinning cunt that blew up cuz he floored it in 6th at 25 mph uphill

Oh hell no, I have no problem admitting when I screw up. This forum has shown me what happens when you come running here just to bitch and moan about how you didn't know this or that. I thought I had read up enough on it but I guess I just missed the one sticky that said "Hey asshole, DO NOT REMOVE THIS PART" - Lesson learned

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Well, the pump I bought from TWOptSL0W turned out to be damaged by Fedex so I'm back and square one. I *might* go back to the dealership and pick up the brand new one if I cant find a used one, but I REALLY dont want to do that if I dont have to. My girl and I are trying to get into a new house so this is happening when funds are pretty tight

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...l-pump-117832/

[rodrigo]

pics of said girl .....

[Worbit]

Originally Posted by rodrigo pics of said girl .....

Haha, she knows about what goes on around these parts and checks the forum often (I stay logged in on both comps because I am too lazy to log in each time) She said if she ever caught me posting the good stuff online I would never get'em again. Instead, I can post stuff like the one below.....



thats all you get

[rodrigo]

why would u give a shit if your gf didnt give u any pics?? arent u guys a lil past sexting???

im just pointing out that u have not much to really lose by posting noodz.... just consider it , i aint here to twist no ones arm .... just business

[Worbit]

This is about as close as I will get to posting noodz

[rodrigo]

its a start , i like where we are headed. i think u should take a deep breath ....kiss your gf good night and go to sleep.....its been a important night tonight and i believe we made a breakthrough.... tomorrow when the heartbeat is back to normal , we are all well rested we can resume discussing what kind of noodz of your chick we need to see.


listen its for the guys ..... i have free porn all day long .... whats one more, ....but the guys....man they just wanna see , ..... anyways get some good rest and we ll wrap it up tomorrow

[GODspeed7]

Originally Posted by pzr2874 This is why people need to stop making half-assed installs on this (how-to's or whatever) Do what he says with a vice and clean EVERYTHING

He doesn't say to clean everything. There is no need to take the pump completely apart and clean it. Just replace the internals and make sure they are clean!

[rodrigo]

ive taken apart and put together 30 or so .... i clean the cylinder, the piston the retainer nut spring , locks ...EVERYTHING..... the main reason is this ....not what u might think.

when everything is clean its easy to spot a piece of dirt, or any foreign matter on the pieces, ...when they are in the black oil they come with things can hide....

do me a favor and look where the pump is discolored into charred marks.... do u think those char marks are liquid???

CLEAN EVERYTHING ...... not one of my pumps ever failed

p.s. u wont find it on any manual , ....because common sense should come standard in all human beings but as we all know that is not the case sadly

[kritz]

Originally Posted by GODspeed7 He doesn't say to clean everything. There is no need to take the pump completely apart and clean it. Just replace the internals and make sure they are clean!

Dude, I go O.C.D. on the pump, the tools,the vice. Cleanliness is Uber important, importante 重要な, 거드름 피우는 get it! This makes the difference between happy pump or fail pump.

Worbit>>>>> Thanks for the koi photo!

[pzr2874]

Originally Posted by GODspeed7 He doesn't say to clean everything. There is no need to take the pump completely apart and clean it. Just replace the internals and make sure they are clean!

Depends on the mileage. I douched the fuck outta mine with 100K on it. No reason to 1/2 ass something that important. But everybody is different. It is what it is.

[timjs]

If you find yourself still needing a pump, I have a stocker sitting here I could sell you.
It was my original. I got another pump off an engine job at work and put ATs in it and swapped with my stocker. Let me know if i can help.

[Worbit]

timjs - yeah man, PM me a price and I will take it off of your hands.


rodrigo - where the hell are my thanks for the photo above? The same goes for everyone else in here

[pzr2874]

Lenny's a PIMP....

[rodrigo]

give me something to jerk off to and then ill give u thanks motherfucker .....i aint fucken stroking it to a coy fish .....da fawk

[Worbit]

No one gets to spank it to pix of my girl, but I will leave this photo of a hot Asian for all your pleasures

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[Worbit]

So after thinking it over the last few days I think I'm going to toss in the towel and sell the internals so I can move on from this disaster. Quick question to everyone here:

how safe is it to run the Cobb SRI & TIP without internals?

[radioflyer]

Personally I wouldn't run any intake modifications without an AP so that you can recalibrate the MAF. Some would argue its counter productive.

[GODspeed7]

Originally Posted by radioflyer Personally I wouldn't run any intake modifications without an AP so that you can recalibrate the MAF. Some would argue its counter productive.

Where in his post did he say he was going to run an intake and TIP without an AP? He said without internals.

[radioflyer]

His modlist?