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onetechyguy 02-19-2013 02:12 PM
225/40/18 better grip than stock 215's?
 
Looking at replacing tires and leaning toward 225/40/18 on my 07 speed 3. Will there be a noticeable difference with the extra width in traction compared to the stock 215's? Or is everyone mainly doing it for looks?

smoogs12 02-19-2013 02:15 PM
If you are after more traction, then get a more aggressive tire.

Just going up one size is not going to give you what you are looking for if you want more grip.

Oliverms3 02-19-2013 02:16 PM
255 or go home

surebOOst 02-19-2013 02:17 PM
.....Seriously, 205 is wider

onetechyguy 02-19-2013 02:24 PM
205 isn't wider?

I am looking at the michelin pilot super sports, pricey though.

Or the nitto nt05's

smoogs12 02-19-2013 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetechyguy (Post 1903334)
205 isn't wider?

I am looking at the michelin pilot super sports, pricey though.

Or the nitto nt05's
Here you go. Your search is over.

Kumho—Ecsta XS
OR
Dunlop—Direzza ZII


Also just to make sure we have an understanding...You DO NOT want to run any wider than 225 on your stock wheels.

COspeed6 02-19-2013 02:27 PM
235 or go home, yes you'll get more traction. You'll have a wider contact patch with the road which provides more traction.
(On a dry road)
Lol at fail wheel drive

onetechyguy 02-19-2013 02:32 PM
Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide

COspeed6 02-19-2013 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetechyguy (Post 1903352)
Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide
Then I think a 235 might be a little wide for your wheels, 225 would be good.

onetechyguy 02-19-2013 02:40 PM
Ok, I have the car lowered with Cobb springs, hopefully it won't rub

smoogs12 02-19-2013 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetechyguy (Post 1903352)
Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide
imo I still wouldnt go over 225.

And I know that this is probably going to start a huge debate, but having a wider tire (all other things being equal) does not mean you will grip better. Its just not that simple.

surebOOst 02-19-2013 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetechyguy (Post 1903334)
205 isn't wider?

I am looking at the michelin pilot super sports, pricey though.

Or the nitto nt05's
no no no broski 205 is wider just kidding

:dance:

onetechyguy 02-19-2013 06:30 PM
205 is smaller than 215 or 225. Thar number is the width in milimeter

Tire Size, Conversion, Explained, Chart, Guide

smoogs12 02-19-2013 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetechyguy (Post 1904009)
205 is smaller than 215 or 225. Thar number is the width in milimeter

Tire Size, Conversion, Explained, Chart, Guide
lol Dude hes fucking with you.

jm211 02-19-2013 06:43 PM
they be yanking your chain.


Quote:
Originally Posted by surebOOst (Post 1903731)
just kidding

John_speed 02-20-2013 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onetechyguy (Post 1903352)
Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide
I've been researching tires to death recently - also looking for more traction...a LOT more traction, as I plan on adding more power. So I was going to try and do both and get better tires AND wider tires - by 3 sizes (from stock 215/45 to 245/40). In researching I found that 235mm tires are all (at least all that I looked up) spec'd at 8" min rim width, and 245's are almost all spec'd at 8" minimum as well. I'm just wondering if I can squeeze the 245's in there without rubbing! assuming I roll the fenders...

smoogs12 02-20-2013 11:23 AM
The answer is probably yes, but your question is to vague to say for sure.

You need to know the specs on the wheel.

John_speed 02-20-2013 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1905219)
The answer is probably yes, but your question is to vague to say for sure.

You need to know the specs on the wheel.
They're the RX-8 rims which I know are only 8" wide et +50 but that size is within tire mfg specs (8-9.5"). Just wondering what the results have been for this exact setup. This brings me to a question. I have searched on this forum enough to find that the search query parser seems strange. For instance if you search:
"RX8" - 0 results
"RX-8" - 0 results
"RX8 245/40" - 0 results
"245/40/18" - 0 results


:wtf1:

smoogs12 02-20-2013 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905270)
They're the RX-8 rims which I know are only 8" wide et +50 but that size is within tire mfg specs (8-9.5"). Just wondering what the results have been for this exact setup. This brings me to a question. I have searched on this forum enough to find that the search query parser seems strange. For instance if you search:
"RX8" - 0 results
"RX-8" - 0 results
"RX8 245/40" - 0 results
"245/40/18" - 0 results


:wtf1:
Didn't I already recommend that you get 235s?

You will not see/feel any measurable difference going from 235 to 245.

Maybe there is a reason that you go no results.

alphasaur 02-20-2013 11:57 AM
I run 235's on 7.5s because I like to be dangerous.

OP, many rave about the nt05's and they're what I would be running if I didn't get a good deal on my BFG G-force Sports

Deldran 02-20-2013 12:00 PM
I wouldnt go over a 225 on a 7.5" rim personally.

Jut for though. NT-05 seem to be well revied bang for your buck tire.
You can pick them up through walmart super cheap and no shipping.

I am getting a set of 235/40/18 for 650 all said and done.

blackms3_71 02-20-2013 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1903341)
Here you go. Your search is over.

Kumho—Ecsta XS
OR
Dunlop—Direzza ZII


Also just to make sure we have an understanding...You DO NOT want to run any wider than 225 on your stock wheels.
I run 235/40/18 on stock gen 1 wheels and they are just fine on stock height, no rubbing or anything

John_speed 02-20-2013 12:02 PM
indeed you did...and thanks for your advice. I was trying to solicit people who have actually tried the setup. I had a killer deal on a set of barely used 245s and that's why I was asking.

Quote:
Maybe there is a reason that you go no results.
...and the reason is? I'm certain those key words exist in many posts and if it worked properly noobs like me wouldn't be asking.

Deldran 02-20-2013 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905314)
indeed you did...and thanks for your advice. I was trying to solicit people who have actually tried the setup. I had a killer deal on a set of barely used 245s and that's why I was asking.



...and the reason is? I'm certain those key words exist in many posts and if it worked properly noobs like me wouldn't be asking.
Use Google search not forum search

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John_speed 02-20-2013 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphasaur (Post 1905296)
OP, many rave about the nt05's and they're what I would be running if I didn't get a good deal on my BFG G-force Sports
Are those the G-force Sports COMP-2 tires that are rated #1 for UHP summer on TR? The COMP-2's have 300k miles worth of reviews but they are very good reviews other than road noise. Many people say the COMP-2's are very noisy.

dot584 02-20-2013 12:11 PM
I just got 235/40/18 Eagle F1's on my 7.5 inch rim offset 50 and I need to roll the fenders a little more cuz they rub just a tiny bit. I have a 6 btw on h&r springs. But the tires fit the rim better than a 225 imo.

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alphasaur 02-20-2013 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905307)
I wouldnt go over a 225 on a 7.5" rim personally.

Jut for though. NT-05 seem to be well revied bang for your buck tire.
You can pick them up through walmart super cheap and no shipping.

I am getting a set of 235/40/18 for 650 all said and done.
tax makes it slightly more expensive than dtd for me, so take that into account.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905339)
Are those the G-force Sports COMP-2 tires that are rated #1 for UHP summer on TR? The COMP-2's have 300k miles worth of reviews but they are very good reviews other than road noise. Many people say the COMP-2's are very noisy.
nope, got the gforce sports (the comp2's dad). Got them for nearly nothing close to brand new, so I'll run them till they wear out and buy another set of tires. I also don't care about noise, I have full mounts so tire noise is the least of my concern lol.

smoogs12 02-20-2013 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905314)
...and the reason is? I'm certain those key words exist in many posts and if it worked properly noobs like me wouldn't be asking.
Well the technical reason is that the forum search will reject three character search strings.

As far as the numbers go idk.

Not sure why you are so set on running a 245. But whatever.

John_speed 02-20-2013 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905325)
Use Google search not forum search

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okay. I've been trying that way too. You would think the more direct forum search would work ... as Google results give lots of irrelevant garbage to weed through. Or can you use Google search engine from within this forum and filter on this domain?

Deldran 02-20-2013 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905386)
okay. I've been trying that way too. You would think the more direct forum search would work ... as Google results give lots of irrelevant garbage to weed through. Or can you use Google search engine from within this forum and filter on this domain?
Type this in

Site:"website u want to search" you search

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smoogs12 02-20-2013 12:30 PM
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-forum-125031/
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905386)
okay. I've been trying that way too. You would think the more direct forum search would work ... as Google results give lots of irrelevant garbage to weed through. Or can you use Google search engine from within this forum and filter on this domain?

John_speed 02-20-2013 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905392)
Type this in

Site:"website u want to search" you search

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yep did that - still Google lists results from many other domains, and doesn't give results I know are actually there (that I found manually). I'm no genius but I program computers for a living and it sure seems wacked out to me. No big deal...I appreciate your help - thanks anyway...

smoogs12 02-20-2013 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905425)
yep did that - still Google lists results from many other domains, and doesn't give results I know are actually there (that I found manually). I'm no genius but I program computers for a living and it sure seems wacked out to me. No big deal...I appreciate your help - thanks anyway...
Used "site" method...BOOM....Right at the top of the results

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...l-i-rub-19384/

Deldran 02-20-2013 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905425)
yep did that - still Google lists results from many other domains, and doesn't give results I know are actually there (that I found manually). I'm no genius but I program computers for a living and it sure seems wacked out to me. No big deal...I appreciate your help - thanks anyway...
U did it wrong then

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John_speed 02-20-2013 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1905442)
Used "site" method...BOOM....Right at the top of the results

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...l-i-rub-19384/
I totally get that Google will find some results, as will the forum search - but the way it works now neither will find ALL results and the forum search should be the one to find every single solitary result. Google uses a complex (mostly undisclosed) scheme in its crawler to decide on which links to list and how to rank them. I was not only searching rim/tire info but lots of other stuff and when I realized the forum search was not working, I subsequently realized that the answers may be there, but I just have to search more manually. The forum search is the only search engine that can list results with quick access to every word of every post. Then I gave up and posted a couple times. Sorry I didn't mean to turn this into a how to search forum!
:offtopic:
The good news is after a couple more posts I'm actually allowed to PM someone

Deldran 02-20-2013 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905575)
I totally get that Google will find some results, as will the forum search - but the way it works now neither will find ALL results and the forum search should be the one to find every single solitary result. Google uses a complex (mostly undisclosed) scheme in its crawler to decide on which links to list and how to rank them. I was not only searching rim/tire info but lots of other stuff and when I realized the forum search was not working, I subsequently realized that the answers may be there, but I just have to search more manually. The forum search is the only search engine that can list results with quick access to every word of every post. Then I gave up and posted a couple times. Sorry I didn't mean to turn this into a how to search forum!
:offtopic:
The good news is after a couple more posts I'm actually allowed to PM someone
DUDE you are doing it wrong!!!!!!!

type this exactly into google and you will only get results from mazdaspeedforums

"site:mazdaspeedforums.org I love giant cock"

here is a link to the first result for the above query

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...thread-112206/

and every single hit after that is from mazdaspeedforums.org
do you need a screen shot to finally believe your doing it wrong?

fucking brownie i tried being nice but you cant even do a search right when i spoon fed you.

Oh and here is a link on HOW TO search the forums.

i guess you didnt read your welcome PM it should be included in it if it isnt already

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-forum-125031/

smoogs12 02-20-2013 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905593)

type this exactly into google and you will only get results from mazdaspeedforums

"site:mazdaspeedforums.org I love giant cock"

here is a link to the first result for the above query
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...thread-112206/
lmao I can not believe that is actually the first result.

Deldran 02-20-2013 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1905614)
lmao I can not believe that is actually the first result.
Yea i couldnt either i was hopping it would be a thread with a giant cock in the first post :(

smoogs12 02-20-2013 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905625)
Yea i couldnt either i was hopping it would be a thread with a giant cock in the first post :(
lol god knows that there is plenty of those.

John_speed 02-20-2013 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905593)
DUDE you are doing it wrong!!!!!!!

type this exactly into google and you will only get results from mazdaspeedforums

"site:mazdaspeedforums.org I love giant cock"

here is a link to the first result for the above query

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...thread-112206/

and every single hit after that is from mazdaspeedforums.org
do you need a screen shot to finally believe your doing it wrong?

fucking brownie i tried being nice but you cant even do a search right when i spoon fed you.

Oh and here is a link on HOW TO search the forums.

i guess you didnt read your welcome PM it should be included in it if it isnt already

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...-forum-125031/
Unless the site is setup to access all content of all pages (maybe it is?) it won't list ALL results. There's a reply in the link above you guys sent me to that even says it won't return some results. All I'm saying is that if we fix the fucking forum search you wouldn't have to be annoyed with people like me. To fix the little that's wrong with the forum search would take minimal amount of time. Or do you want people like me to keep asking dumb questions so you can be all pissed? Do you realize how many people have no clue how to site search on Google? So if you're THAT annoyed by those of us that are "search-challenged", why don't we actually FIX the forum search? I know I know I need to donate...I just joined man give me a chance!

Deldran 02-20-2013 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905654)
Unless the site is setup to access all content of all pages (maybe it is?) it won't list ALL results. There's a reply in the link above you guys sent me to that even says it won't return some results. All I'm saying is that if we fix the fucking forum search you wouldn't have to be annoyed with people like me. To fix the little that's wrong with the forum search would take minimal amount of time. Or do you want people like me to keep asking dumb questions so you can be all pissed? Do you realize how many people have no clue how to site search on Google? So if you're THAT annoyed by those of us that are "search-challenged", why don't we actually FIX the forum search? I know I know I need to donate...I just joined man give me a chance!
We are not going to fix the forum search not when you can use google.

I have never once had a problem finding what I needed with it. So you are obviously doing it wrong.

The simple fact that you stated it was pulling results from sites other than mazdaspeedforums.org tells us you did it wrong.

Now go be butt hurt somewhere else. its not my fault you cant read.

head on over to m247 they like to spoon feed people

smoogs12 02-20-2013 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1905654)
Do you realize how many people have no clue how to site search on Google?
This is exactly the reason I made the how-to on site tag searching. :chairshot:

alphasaur 02-20-2013 02:07 PM
fwiw,

the search does suck, it has no reason to considering the amount of money this site pulls in

IMO.

John_speed 02-20-2013 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1905671)
We are not going to fix the forum search not when you can use google.
Then have fun being pissed for eternity at new people who, obviously not being on the same order of magnitude of your IQ score, will not know and will not read the "How-To search" because they assume the forum search actually works (and dude - it's more than a 3 character problem WTF is wrong with you?).


Quote:
The simple fact that you stated it was pulling results from sites other than mazdaspeedforums.org tells us you did it wrong.
Well you got me here... You see this funny progression of things happened. I searched on the forum FIRST then did a Google search (no you got me it was not the site search) to try and get results from lots of other places because I assumed I already fully searched this domain via the forum search.


Quote:
Now go be butt hurt somewhere else. its not my fault you cant read.
I have a much better idea...why don't you go print out your avatar (pretty gay) or all your car parts in your signature (even more faggoty) while jacking off to other member's avatars and sigs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by smoogs12 (Post 1905675)
This is exactly the reason I made the how-to on site tag searching. :chairshot:
Point-taken I should have read that. You do realize though that 99.9% of people don't think they need help searching? Do you honestly read how-to search materials for, lets say, Windows, MAC OS, or Android...let me answer that for you - NO you didn't because you assumed it worked.

smoogs12 02-20-2013 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1906405)
(and dude - it's more than a 3 character problem WTF is wrong with you?).
Idk why out of all of that I pick this to respond to. But I digress.

The forum search WILL throw back any three letter search string you enter. RX8, ATP, MS3, KMD, go ahead and try all of them. Let me know how many return results.


This thread is fucking retarded.

alphasaur 02-20-2013 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1906405)
Then have fun being pissed for eternity at new people who, obviously not being on the same order of magnitude of your IQ score, will not know and will not read the "How-To search" because they assume the forum search actually works (and dude - it's more than a 3 character problem WTF is wrong with you?).



Well you got me here... You see this funny progression of things happened. I searched on the forum FIRST then did a Google search (no you got me it was not the site search) to try and get results from lots of other places because I assumed I already fully searched this domain via the forum search.



I have a much better idea...why don't you go print out your avatar (pretty gay) or all your car parts in your signature (even more faggoty) while jacking off to other member's avatars and sigs?


Point-taken I should have read that. You do realize though that 99.9% of people don't think they need help searching? Do you honestly read how-to search materials for, lets say, Windows, MAC OS, or Android...let me answer that for you - NO you didn't because you assumed it worked.
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Deldran 02-20-2013 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_speed (Post 1906405)
Then have fun being pissed for eternity at new people who, obviously not being on the same order of magnitude of your IQ score, will not know and will not read the "How-To search" because they assume the forum search actually works (and dude - it's more than a 3 character problem WTF is wrong with you?).



Well you got me here... You see this funny progression of things happened. I searched on the forum FIRST then did a Google search (no you got me it was not the site search) to try and get results from lots of other places because I assumed I already fully searched this domain via the forum search.



I have a much better idea...why don't you go print out your avatar (pretty gay) or all your car parts in your signature (even more faggoty) while jacking off to other member's avatars and sigs?


Point-taken I should have read that. You do realize though that 99.9% of people don't think they need help searching? Do you honestly read how-to search materials for, lets say, Windows, MAC OS, or Android...let me answer that for you - NO you didn't because you assumed it worked.
Could u please explain what about my mods is faggy. I'm sure I make more power than you do.

And the butt hurt is strong with this one

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 1906475)
Could u please explain what about my mods is faggy. I'm sure I make more power than you do.

And the butt hurt is strong with this one

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Oh and u wouldn't believe how many ppl love my avatar. Unicorn farts are fucking awesome

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