225/40/18 better grip than stock 215's?

[onetechyguy]

Looking at replacing tires and leaning toward 225/40/18 on my 07 speed 3. Will there be a noticeable difference with the extra width in traction compared to the stock 215's? Or is everyone mainly doing it for looks?

[smoogs12]

If you are after more traction, then get a more aggressive tire.

Just going up one size is not going to give you what you are looking for if you want more grip.

[Oliverms3]

255 or go home

[surebOOst]

.....Seriously, 205 is wider

[onetechyguy]

205 isn't wider?

I am looking at the michelin pilot super sports, pricey though.

Or the nitto nt05's

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by onetechyguy 205 isn't wider? I am looking at the michelin pilot super sports, pricey though. Or the nitto nt05's

Here you go. Your search is over.

Kumho—Ecsta XS
OR
Dunlop—Direzza ZII


Also just to make sure we have an understanding...You DO NOT want to run any wider than 225 on your stock wheels.

[COspeed6]

235 or go home, yes you'll get more traction. You'll have a wider contact patch with the road which provides more traction.
(On a dry road)
Lol at fail wheel drive

[onetechyguy]

Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide

[COspeed6]

Originally Posted by onetechyguy Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide

Then I think a 235 might be a little wide for your wheels, 225 would be good.

[onetechyguy]

Ok, I have the car lowered with Cobb springs, hopefully it won't rub

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by onetechyguy Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide

imo I still wouldnt go over 225.

And I know that this is probably going to start a huge debate, but having a wider tire (all other things being equal) does not mean you will grip better. Its just not that simple.

[surebOOst]

Originally Posted by onetechyguy 205 isn't wider? I am looking at the michelin pilot super sports, pricey though. Or the nitto nt05's

no no no broski 205 is wider just kidding

[onetechyguy]

205 is smaller than 215 or 225. Thar number is the width in milimeter

Tire Size, Conversion, Explained, Chart, Guide

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by onetechyguy 205 is smaller than 215 or 225. Thar number is the width in milimeter Tire Size, Conversion, Explained, Chart, Guide

lol Dude hes fucking with you.

[jm211]

they be yanking your chain.

Originally Posted by surebOOst just kidding

[John_speed]

Originally Posted by onetechyguy Ok, I'll check those out. My wheels are not stock, there the mazdaspeed ray's 7.5 wide

I've been researching tires to death recently - also looking for more traction...a LOT more traction, as I plan on adding more power. So I was going to try and do both and get better tires AND wider tires - by 3 sizes (from stock 215/45 to 245/40). In researching I found that 235mm tires are all (at least all that I looked up) spec'd at 8" min rim width, and 245's are almost all spec'd at 8" minimum as well. I'm just wondering if I can squeeze the 245's in there without rubbing! assuming I roll the fenders...

[smoogs12]

The answer is probably yes, but your question is to vague to say for sure.

You need to know the specs on the wheel.

[John_speed]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 The answer is probably yes, but your question is to vague to say for sure. You need to know the specs on the wheel.

They're the RX-8 rims which I know are only 8" wide et +50 but that size is within tire mfg specs (8-9.5"). Just wondering what the results have been for this exact setup. This brings me to a question. I have searched on this forum enough to find that the search query parser seems strange. For instance if you search:
"RX8" - 0 results
"RX-8" - 0 results
"RX8 245/40" - 0 results
"245/40/18" - 0 results

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by John_speed They're the RX-8 rims which I know are only 8" wide et +50 but that size is within tire mfg specs (8-9.5"). Just wondering what the results have been for this exact setup. This brings me to a question. I have searched on this forum enough to find that the search query parser seems strange. For instance if you search: "RX8" - 0 results "RX-8" - 0 results "RX8 245/40" - 0 results "245/40/18" - 0 results

Didn't I already recommend that you get 235s?

You will not see/feel any measurable difference going from 235 to 245.

Maybe there is a reason that you go no results.

[alphasaur]

I run 235's on 7.5s because I like to be dangerous.

OP, many rave about the nt05's and they're what I would be running if I didn't get a good deal on my BFG G-force Sports

[Deldran]

I wouldnt go over a 225 on a 7.5" rim personally.

Jut for though. NT-05 seem to be well revied bang for your buck tire.
You can pick them up through walmart super cheap and no shipping.

I am getting a set of 235/40/18 for 650 all said and done.

[blackms3_71]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 Here you go. Your search is over. Kumho—Ecsta XS OR Dunlop—Direzza ZII Also just to make sure we have an understanding...You DO NOT want to run any wider than 225 on your stock wheels.

I run 235/40/18 on stock gen 1 wheels and they are just fine on stock height, no rubbing or anything

[John_speed]

indeed you did...and thanks for your advice. I was trying to solicit people who have actually tried the setup. I had a killer deal on a set of barely used 245s and that's why I was asking.

Maybe there is a reason that you go no results.

...and the reason is? I'm certain those key words exist in many posts and if it worked properly noobs like me wouldn't be asking.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by John_speed indeed you did...and thanks for your advice. I was trying to solicit people who have actually tried the setup. I had a killer deal on a set of barely used 245s and that's why I was asking. ...and the reason is? I'm certain those key words exist in many posts and if it worked properly noobs like me wouldn't be asking.

Use Google search not forum search

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[John_speed]

Originally Posted by alphasaur OP, many rave about the nt05's and they're what I would be running if I didn't get a good deal on my BFG G-force Sports

Are those the G-force Sports COMP-2 tires that are rated #1 for UHP summer on TR? The COMP-2's have 300k miles worth of reviews but they are very good reviews other than road noise. Many people say the COMP-2's are very noisy.

[dot584]

I just got 235/40/18 Eagle F1's on my 7.5 inch rim offset 50 and I need to roll the fenders a little more cuz they rub just a tiny bit. I have a 6 btw on h&r springs. But the tires fit the rim better than a 225 imo.

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[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by Deldran I wouldnt go over a 225 on a 7.5" rim personally. Jut for though. NT-05 seem to be well revied bang for your buck tire. You can pick them up through walmart super cheap and no shipping. I am getting a set of 235/40/18 for 650 all said and done.

tax makes it slightly more expensive than dtd for me, so take that into account.

Originally Posted by John_speed Are those the G-force Sports COMP-2 tires that are rated #1 for UHP summer on TR? The COMP-2's have 300k miles worth of reviews but they are very good reviews other than road noise. Many people say the COMP-2's are very noisy.

nope, got the gforce sports (the comp2's dad). Got them for nearly nothing close to brand new, so I'll run them till they wear out and buy another set of tires. I also don't care about noise, I have full mounts so tire noise is the least of my concern lol.

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by John_speed ...and the reason is? I'm certain those key words exist in many posts and if it worked properly noobs like me wouldn't be asking.

Well the technical reason is that the forum search will reject three character search strings.

As far as the numbers go idk.

Not sure why you are so set on running a 245. But whatever.

[John_speed]

Originally Posted by Deldran Use Google search not forum search Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

okay. I've been trying that way too. You would think the more direct forum search would work ... as Google results give lots of irrelevant garbage to weed through. Or can you use Google search engine from within this forum and filter on this domain?

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by John_speed okay. I've been trying that way too. You would think the more direct forum search would work ... as Google results give lots of irrelevant garbage to weed through. Or can you use Google search engine from within this forum and filter on this domain?

Type this in

Site:"website u want to search" you search

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[smoogs12]

HOW TO: search the forum

Originally Posted by John_speed okay. I've been trying that way too. You would think the more direct forum search would work ... as Google results give lots of irrelevant garbage to weed through. Or can you use Google search engine from within this forum and filter on this domain?

[John_speed]

Originally Posted by Deldran Type this in Site:"website u want to search" you search Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

yep did that - still Google lists results from many other domains, and doesn't give results I know are actually there (that I found manually). I'm no genius but I program computers for a living and it sure seems wacked out to me. No big deal...I appreciate your help - thanks anyway...

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by John_speed yep did that - still Google lists results from many other domains, and doesn't give results I know are actually there (that I found manually). I'm no genius but I program computers for a living and it sure seems wacked out to me. No big deal...I appreciate your help - thanks anyway...

Used "site" method...BOOM....Right at the top of the results

245/40 with 18x8 +50: will i rub?

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by John_speed yep did that - still Google lists results from many other domains, and doesn't give results I know are actually there (that I found manually). I'm no genius but I program computers for a living and it sure seems wacked out to me. No big deal...I appreciate your help - thanks anyway...

U did it wrong then

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[John_speed]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 Used "site" method...BOOM....Right at the top of the results 245/40 with 18x8 +50: will i rub?

I totally get that Google will find some results, as will the forum search - but the way it works now neither will find ALL results and the forum search should be the one to find every single solitary result. Google uses a complex (mostly undisclosed) scheme in its crawler to decide on which links to list and how to rank them. I was not only searching rim/tire info but lots of other stuff and when I realized the forum search was not working, I subsequently realized that the answers may be there, but I just have to search more manually. The forum search is the only search engine that can list results with quick access to every word of every post. Then I gave up and posted a couple times. Sorry I didn't mean to turn this into a how to search forum!

The good news is after a couple more posts I'm actually allowed to PM someone

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by John_speed I totally get that Google will find some results, as will the forum search - but the way it works now neither will find ALL results and the forum search should be the one to find every single solitary result. Google uses a complex (mostly undisclosed) scheme in its crawler to decide on which links to list and how to rank them. I was not only searching rim/tire info but lots of other stuff and when I realized the forum search was not working, I subsequently realized that the answers may be there, but I just have to search more manually. The forum search is the only search engine that can list results with quick access to every word of every post. Then I gave up and posted a couple times. Sorry I didn't mean to turn this into a how to search forum! The good news is after a couple more posts I'm actually allowed to PM someone

DUDE you are doing it wrong!!!!!!!

type this exactly into google and you will only get results from mazdaspeedforums

"site:mazdaspeedforums.org I love giant cock"

here is a link to the first result for the above query

MS3 07-09 CBE Thread

and every single hit after that is from mazdaspeedforums.org
do you need a screen shot to finally believe your doing it wrong?

fucking brownie i tried being nice but you cant even do a search right when i spoon fed you.

Oh and here is a link on HOW TO search the forums.

i guess you didnt read your welcome PM it should be included in it if it isnt already

HOW TO: search the forum

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Deldran type this exactly into google and you will only get results from mazdaspeedforums "site:mazdaspeedforums.org I love giant cock" here is a link to the first result for the above query MS3 07-09 CBE Thread

lmao I can not believe that is actually the first result.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 lmao I can not believe that is actually the first result.

Yea i couldnt either i was hopping it would be a thread with a giant cock in the first post

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Deldran Yea i couldnt either i was hopping it would be a thread with a giant cock in the first post

lol god knows that there is plenty of those.

[John_speed]

Originally Posted by Deldran DUDE you are doing it wrong!!!!!!! type this exactly into google and you will only get results from mazdaspeedforums "site:mazdaspeedforums.org I love giant cock" here is a link to the first result for the above query MS3 07-09 CBE Thread and every single hit after that is from mazdaspeedforums.org do you need a screen shot to finally believe your doing it wrong? fucking brownie i tried being nice but you cant even do a search right when i spoon fed you. Oh and here is a link on HOW TO search the forums. i guess you didnt read your welcome PM it should be included in it if it isnt already HOW TO: search the forum

Unless the site is setup to access all content of all pages (maybe it is?) it won't list ALL results. There's a reply in the link above you guys sent me to that even says it won't return some results. All I'm saying is that if we fix the fucking forum search you wouldn't have to be annoyed with people like me. To fix the little that's wrong with the forum search would take minimal amount of time. Or do you want people like me to keep asking dumb questions so you can be all pissed? Do you realize how many people have no clue how to site search on Google? So if you're THAT annoyed by those of us that are "search-challenged", why don't we actually FIX the forum search? I know I know I need to donate...I just joined man give me a chance!