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AZSPEED3 09-12-2011 06:38 PM

Help Choosing Best Tire
 
Looking into getting new tires this week but not sure what to get. Have a list of a couple tires but looking to get the best tire for my price range. Looking for a tire with some nice grip for the street and good life span(30-40K miles). Want to spend around $800-900 or under.

Here's a list of what I have been looking at, if you know of a better tire than what I have listed let me know. Or any reviews on them, Thanks.

Nitto NT05s, Star Specs, Kuhmo Ecsta XS, Yokohama AD08's, Continental Extreme Contact
BFGoodrich g/force T/A, Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport, Dunlop Direzza DZ101

rodrigo 09-12-2011 06:38 PM

star specs

close thread

Dano 09-12-2011 06:40 PM

not even true...hahaha

nah they are fairly good but they heat cycle out waaaaay before the tread is gone and turn into hockey pucks.

Yoko Advan A048s are da bomb ...if money is no object. DOT auotx rubber.

rodrigo 09-12-2011 06:45 PM

heres a smart rule....

do not buy this years top performance tire.

buy last years or 2 top performance tire.

end of lesson

AZSPEED3 09-12-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dano (Post 1039866)
not even true...hahaha

nah they are fairly good but they heat cycle out waaaaay before the tread is gone and turn into hockey pucks.

Yoko Advan A048s are da bomb ...if money is no object. DOT auotx rubber.

Would love to get the Advan A048s but out of my price range and more performance than Im looking at.

Base14 09-12-2011 11:01 PM

I've got about 25k miles on my Hankook ventus v12 evo k110s and have really liked them. Solid performer for the price, I'll prolly buy new ones when the time comes!

08.5MS3 09-12-2011 11:11 PM

The new Michelin Pilot Super Sport's look promising. I'm enjoying my Conti DW's.

Nliiitend1 09-12-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZSPEED3 (Post 1039860)
Looking into getting new tires this week but not sure what to get. Have a list of a couple tires but looking to get the best tire for my price range. Looking for a tire with some nice grip for the street and good life span(30-40K miles). Want to spend around $800-900 or under.

Here's a list of what I have been looking at, if you know of a better tire than what I have listed let me know. Or any reviews on them, Thanks.

Nitto NT05s, Star Specs, Kuhmo Ecsta XS, Yokohama AD08's, Continental Extreme Contact
BFGoodrich g/force T/A, Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport, Dunlop Direzza DZ101

You're not very likely to get anywhere near 30-40k miles out of the first four on your list...

jroc 09-13-2011 01:33 AM

No, you wont get anywhere near that with an NT05, star spec either.

Your best bet would be the direzza or the gforce

Mchart 09-13-2011 01:36 AM

The new Pilot Super Sports are the best you can buy for the money. They have substantially better treadlife then the outgoing PS2's, and substantially better grip as well. They really are the best.

Littlescroll 09-13-2011 01:40 AM

Yeah I just installed a set of the new super sports on a 07 S4 and the guy loves em. 30k mi warranty for that kind of performance is great.

Also, you will NOT see 30-40k out of Potenza 760s. I rarely see those get over 20/25k. My friend has a GTI and he'll need to replace them before 20k(rotated with even wear.)

86AmishMs3 09-13-2011 02:04 AM

I'm using dunlup sport maxx tt's but I don't think I'll get 40 out of them, but they are in your price range, and offer a great compromise.

TRex 09-13-2011 06:30 AM

i have the extreme contacts on both of my cars and another ms3 friend of mine has them on his....very good price....we all have the DWS which are the all seasons....love them....good grip and low noise and good price

MS3inDC 09-13-2011 07:04 AM

Conti extreme contact dws ftw!

Dano 09-13-2011 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZSPEED3 (Post 1040125)
Would love to get the Advan A048s but out of my price range and more performance than Im looking at.

Yeah, I don't know if I'll get them again because of the price and I doubt they'll make it 15K miles lol.

The Stars were great tires for the money IMO and worked out great for handling but didn't have enough grip for my HP level. I would estimate I am +-370WHP and had to severely limit my power in 1-3rd gears with APP translation and pedal input. Fail Wheel Drive...

At 300WHP they are probably great and their only drawback, which is widely known, is that they heat cycle out before the tread is gone. IIRC they start to lose their grip at around 1/4 tread left. Other tires may do the same thing and it may just be how things are.

The A048s allowed me to put full power down in 3rd gear which was a great feeling :)

anyway hope this helps. Looks like guys like the Cont Extremes...maybe I'll give them a try next.

mituc 09-13-2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08.5MS3 (Post 1040302)
The new Michelin Pilot Super Sport's look promising. I'm enjoying my Conti DW's.

I have the michelin pilot sport 3's. they are amazing and they weight only 21 pounds each. The super sport's are even better on dry roads but not that good on heavily wet roads (when you drive the car carefully anyway).
If you want street tires I'd go with michelin pilot sport whatever, pirelli pzero (not nero or rosso or other weird crap) and a few others.
Direzza's, AD048 and the other high performance tires better than those mentioned above are heavy and you may not need the little extra grip unless you go do the track.

TRex 09-13-2011 07:52 AM

btw the conti extremes in 225/40/18 only weigh 21 as well

Continental ExtremeContact DWS

86AmishMs3 09-13-2011 07:56 AM

I was also looking at the continentals extreme contact. Good reviews, but went with what I have now. Similar performance, but 80 dollar rebate at the time.

I've ridden on the ventus v12 evo's granted not on the same platform, but they still seemed to have too much sidewall flex.

I love me some falken azenis rt-615's, but they are a little pricey.

Vader 09-13-2011 08:06 AM

FWIW

I have the NT-05s on my summer wheels - For the money they are awesome, there isn't one thing I dislike about them. Dry traction is super, and contrary to what you read, Wet (rain) is fairly good. Have yet to hydroplane, or break loose (but I don't drive like an idiot in the rain, so...)

I have the Conti DWS on my Cool weather/Winter wheels. They are the super tits!
Dry grip is outstanding. Wet grip is unbelievable. You wouldn't even know it was raining out with these tires, they are that good... And they also go very well through the snow.

My .02

AZSPEED3 09-13-2011 08:18 AM

Thanks everyone for your responses. Sounds like a lot of you have the Continental Extreme Contact, may have to look into this. Also don't they have a rebate or free GPS deal going on right now, when purchasing a set. I don't really need an all season tire or great in rain due to it only rainning a couple times a year in AZ.

TRex 09-13-2011 08:24 AM

they also make a summer set called the extreme contact DW (dry wet)....similar performance...just doesnt have the winter tread

and yes they do have the free gps deal going on

Vansquish 09-13-2011 08:29 AM

I just bought the Conti Extreme Contact DWSs for my MS6 to replace some Bridgestone RE960ASs . The RE960s still have another 5-10000miles in them, but for winter here in the midwest, I decided a newer set with some deeper tread would be good.

My only complaint thus far with the DWSs is that they don't handle as crisply. The sidewalls are a fair bit softer than either of my other sets of tires (RE960AS and RE040). This means that transitions are a bit sloppier, as it takes more time and more movement before the tires "set" in a corner. The treadblocks are also quite small which is good for snow and seems to provide pretty good hydroplane-resistance, BUT...it also means that the tire doesn't provide as much outright grip as the RE960AS either.

Keep in mind, these are my impressions on an MS6 instead of an MS3 (your car is a fair bit lighter), and they ARE all-season tires rather than summers like some on your list.

One of the major positives for me is that the tires cost me $706 for the set, mounted, with road-hazard and a 50k treadwear warranty from Quicklane (Ford dealer). Compared to the price for the equivalent Bridgestone RE970AS (the 960 is out of production), this was a savings of around $60-$70 per tire.

dturboman 09-13-2011 08:31 AM

Hankook Evo V12... amazing in dry and wet, very quite and so far great tread life.

AZSPEED3 09-13-2011 11:12 AM

So I think I will go with the Continental Extreme Contact DW, the review's sound good and can get them for under $700. Thanks for all the input.

dturboman 09-13-2011 11:45 AM

I had the DW's on a 9-3 Aero... bought them because of the great tire rack reviews, they sucked, they get major flat spots over night and take a good 10 minutes for them to warm up enough to even out. May be I got a bad batch, but that's just my experience.

Wet and dry handling was on par with other summer tires not better or worse.

AZSPEED3 09-13-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dturboman (Post 1040950)
I had the DW's on a 9-3 Aero... bought them because of the great tire rack reviews, they sucked, they get major flat spots over night and take a good 10 minutes for them to warm up enough to even out. May be I got a bad batch, but that's just my experience.

Wet and dry handling was on par with other summer tires not better or worse.

Damn, it's so hard to find a good reasonable tire. Just when I thought the DW's were perfect for me. I read this, hopefully just a bad batch you got. May have to keep reviewing tires until this weekend.

TRex 09-13-2011 12:14 PM

just like anything reviews are taken with a grain of sand as everyone has different experiences

i usually go in and read the best...then the worst but ultimately it is up to you...there are just so many option out there haha

i tend to trust tire rack's review though (the companies review not the people's review)

rfinkle2 09-13-2011 12:17 PM

There are a ton of reviews @ discounttiredirect.com also.

Tire rack has great brands, but each carries different manufacturers.

MZR165 09-13-2011 12:30 PM

Take a look at Vredestein "ULTRAC SESSANTA" summer tires. There probably around $189 or so.

Vredestein

Superior Wholesale Tire
5217 West Buckeye Road
Phoenix
AZ 85043
Telephone: 602-269-6074
Fax: 602-269-5115

AZSPEED3 09-13-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRex (Post 1041030)
i tend to trust tire rack's review though (the companies review not the people's review)

Yeah same here, that's where I have been reading most of the reviews. They seemed good, on the DW's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 (Post 1041035)
There are a ton of reviews @ discounttiredirect.com also.

Tire rack has great brands, but each carries different manufacturers.

Thanks Rob will check out their reviews. I'm actual going to be getting my tires from
discount tire, have for years and they give me decent deals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZR165 (Post 1041056)
Take a look at Vredestein "ULTRAC SESSANTA" summer tires. There probably around $189 or so.

Thanks will look more into them before making final purchase. Never have heard of them before.

frodaddyweez 09-13-2011 05:42 PM

I've got some Goodyear eagle GTs that have performed pretty well in wet and dry conditions. A couple other local guys use them too

AZSPEED3 09-13-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frodaddyweez (Post 1041622)
I've got some Goodyear eagle GTs that have performed pretty well in wet and dry conditions. A couple other local guys use them too

I like the eagle GT's, a guy at work had them on his Z and he loved them. Don't they cost alot. Haven't actually looked into them much, but will.

MZR165 09-13-2011 05:52 PM

I have Goodyear Eagle GT's currently. They still perform well and have over 25000 miles on them. Spring of 12 I'll be looking at new tires. Will most likely get the Vredestein tires to try out.

frodaddyweez 09-13-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZSPEED3 (Post 1041635)
I like the eagle GT's, a guy at work had them on his Z and he loved them. Don't they cost alot. Haven't actually looked into them much, but will.

Meh they were less expensive than most of the tires I saw available when I was looking for some last december. I may try the dws next set tho.


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