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Douggievee 04-30-2015 07:28 AM

Noise after installing TSW Nurburgring rims
 
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Last night I installed my brand new TSW Nurburgrings 18 x 7.5 and on the way to work today I noticed around some turns there is a metal like banging noise. Hard to describe. It wasnt there on stock rims. What could be causing this?

WetzMS3 04-30-2015 07:30 AM

*wheels

Rubbing or banging?

Douggievee 04-30-2015 07:35 AM

more like a rubbing sound id say

WetzMS3 04-30-2015 07:41 AM

What offset did you get? What size tires?

Did you check for clearance after putting them on?

Are you lowered at all?

Douggievee 04-30-2015 08:03 AM

Im guessing its 45 offset? heres the size I got. TSW Nurburgring
18 X7.5 5-114.30 45 DGMMMS. on 215/45 18 tires. stock suspension.

WetzMS3 04-30-2015 08:05 AM

45 is the offset.

I don't know a ton about clearance on the 6, but at that offset and tire size, I don't think you should be rubbing.

hatchedspeed3 04-30-2015 08:08 AM

could it be the bearing??? I know it would be kind of coincidence, seeing as how the new rims went on, but when they go out, you hear a clunk. @Douggievee; does it increase with speed? if you turn the wheel is it worse one way or the other? Do you hear it when stationary?

Douggievee 04-30-2015 08:10 AM

its very intermittant. seems like the noise only happens when taking a turn very quickly and seems to sound like its coming from the rear of the car.

hatchedspeed3 04-30-2015 08:12 AM

does it matter which way you turn? how fast are you going? Again, do you hear the "rubbing" when stationary?

ArmanRus 04-30-2015 08:30 AM

Is the hub bore on the wheels the same as on our cars? If not, then you need hubcentric rings, the wheels may not be centered and causing some noise.

hatchedspeed3 04-30-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmanRus (Post 2867394)
Is the hub bore on the wheels the same as on our cars? If not, then you need hubcentric rings to center the wheels.

@dale_gribble; you had these wheels on your 6 no? were they hubcentric?

pirate steve 04-30-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmanRus (Post 2867394)
Is the hub bore on the wheels the same as on our cars? If not, then you need hubcentric rings, the wheels may not be centered and causing some noise.

^^Beat me to it.
Yea check that. The lugs don't always center the wheel perfectly so your wheels could be shifting slightly as they rotate.

EDIT: I checked the interwebs and these wheels have a 72mm hub bore which is about 4.9mm oversized.

Douggievee 04-30-2015 08:38 AM

I have rings which ive never used before but they are little plastic rings that i sat in the middle of the wheel before putting them on. hopefully i did that right, not really sure how else they could have been put on though. and when stationary I havenet heard any noise. i would say the noise comes when making a turn going about 40 mph or so.

Mattyhawk1 04-30-2015 08:39 AM

If you haven't already, remove the wheel where you think the sound is coming from. See if you are getting any points of rub on the wheel. Worth a check.

dale_gribble 04-30-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hatchedspeed3 (Post 2867396)
@dale_gribble; you had these wheels on your 6 no? were they hubcentric?

No these are punched out to the standard 73.1mm. They need adapters and/or the lugs need to be set on correctly.

hatchedspeed3 04-30-2015 08:40 AM

definately leaning towards the hubcentric issue then, and not so much the bearing. the bearing you would hear all the time, increasing with speed. Hopefully dale will chime in, but looks like @pirate steve; has your answer. Do you have the boxes the rims came in still? Or an invoice. Should say it somewhere on there

EDIT: He chimed in. There ya go.

ArmanRus 04-30-2015 08:42 AM

You use them just like that. The question is if they are the right size. The Mazda hub is a 67mm.

pirate steve 04-30-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Douggievee (Post 2867400)
I have rings which ive never used before but they are little plastic rings that i sat in the middle of the wheel before putting them on. hopefully i did that right, not really sure how else they could have been put on though. and when stationary I havenet heard any noise. i would say the noise comes when making a turn going about 40 mph or so.

If those "little plastic rings" aren't correctly sized for the gap between the wheel and your hub you could have sandwiched the plastic between the hub and wheel.
Take the wheels off and check that the ring fits snuggly around the hub.

Douggievee 04-30-2015 08:49 AM

The rings dont fit around the hub of the car, they sit inside the rim and i thought maybe they just sit on top of the hub but the rings dont fit inside the hub circle or around the hub circle, they just match the diameter of the hub circle.

ArmanRus 04-30-2015 08:51 AM

Reinstall stock wheels and overnight some hubcentric rings lol. Double check the size you need, I read 73.1mm or 72mm.

WetzMS3 04-30-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Douggievee (Post 2867416)
The rings dont fit around the hub of the car, they sit inside the rim and i thought maybe they just sit on top of the hub but the rings dont fit inside the hub circle or around the hub circle, they just match the diameter of the hub circle.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to say there.

The hubcentric rings should slide over the hub, and fit inside the wheel bore.

pirate steve 04-30-2015 08:52 AM

There's your problem. Go to a discount tire and get propperly sized rings.

Douggievee 04-30-2015 09:07 AM

ok i thought they were supposed to fit differently, thanks guys.


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