OFFICIAL AGGRESSIVE OFFSET THREAD

[manila]

I don't have much knowledge when it comes to fitment. I'm just curious, but do any of you know how this setup would work 18x7.5 +42.

[Downmented]

You are in an aggressive fitment thread, i would only assume that by viewing/ posting in this thread constantly, that one might possibly know the difference between authentic and knock offs. I guess since i own the same set of Sonic Tuning st120's its difficult for me to make the mistake lol

[Doberman]

Originally Posted by manilaMS12 I don't have much knowledge when it comes to fitment. I'm just curious, but do any of you know how this setup would work 18x7.5 +42.

You will have a ton of room. That's not much wider or further from stock offset.

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[manila]

@Mattism78 Thanks for the info. Reason I asked is because I found a set of WORK emotion CR-KAI with tires that came off an s2k for $700.

[Doberman]

Originally Posted by manilaMS12 @Mattism78 Thanks for the info. Reason I asked is because I found a set of WORK emotion CR-KAI with tires that came off an s2k for $700.

They're nice wheels just not an aggressive fitment. You should check out the regular wheel thread. You could always add spacers if you wanted. Easier to push out than in

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[secondchance]

Originally Posted by Stangcobra What Design said here and earlier about the quality of rotas is true. Question on Durability of ROTA Wheels? | CustomPinoyRides.com - Pinoy Pride In Our Rides! Ignore the site its on, it was posted all over the internet on legitimate sites like v2labs and stanceworks/stancenation. They are not the shitty wheels they were even five years ago. back onto the quality parts topic. I absolutely would jump on a set of quality coilovers if they showed up on the forums. The problem is that I am on a student budget and do not always have $800 available to drop on car parts. Plus the coils that I want (BC Extreme Drop Package) never come up for sale on these forums, and are rare at best on mazdafitment. As soon as I am done with my fmic/downpipe I will be saving to get off of these ricelands, because I don't like them as much as you guys dont, I just wanted a cheap way to get low until I could afford real coilovers.

Please refer to https://www.google.ca/search?q=rota+...ient=firefox-a

Rota wheels have more catastrophic failures then any other major brand by a large margin. They developed the name they have now because of that, and regardless of what some homer article says, the proof is in the pudding. (by homer article i mean one written by a flip about flip manufactured wheels)

Just think dude, if you hadn't wasted all that money on shit wheels, and garbage suspension you would already have the coil overs you really want, and would be like 40% of the way saved up towards a nice set of wheels worth having on the car.

Originally Posted by Stangcobra see I liked your whole post right up until you told me to put 245 or 255 series tires on my car, and then told me its not a vw and a 240. Again, this is the one stance/fitment/offset/hellaflush/whatever thread this forum has. Stretched tires and camber are a fact of life if youre into that scene. I don't know what people do not understand about that. I was asking about removing these parts of the coils because a lot of VW guys do it and I wanted to know if anyone had done it to the mazdaspeed racelands...thats all

I was in and around the "Scene" while you were still in diapers bro, so relax. This is an aggressive offset thread, not a " lets drive on sidewalls " thread. Its intended purpose is for those running lower offsets, or wider rims/tires to share their setups and experiences with others. You purchase a performance oriented car, put power mods on it, then go out and make it less safe then it is in stock form by cheaping out on skinny tires and shit coil overs, just to use the stance excuse for why u did that? Heres to seeing your car smushed into a wall because you thought the sidewalls you drive on would carry you through the corner at 120mph like the evo's and sti's youre trying to keep up with at the cool kids car meets.

[GOT 2RBO]

the sonic tuning st120s are replicas of the Advan RS...I don't think they look like the evo wheels at all.

[Downmented]

@secondchance Im surprised to say that you are more intelligent than i though

[Stangcobra]

Originally Posted by secondchance Please refer to https://www.google.ca/search?q=rota+...ient=firefox-a Rota wheels have more catastrophic failures then any other major brand by a large margin. They developed the name they have now because of that, and regardless of what some homer article says, the proof is in the pudding. (by homer article i mean one written by a flip about flip manufactured wheels) Just think dude, if you hadn't wasted all that money on shit wheels, and garbage suspension you would already have the coil overs you really want, and would be like 40% of the way saved up towards a nice set of wheels worth having on the car. I was in and around the "Scene" while you were still in diapers bro, so relax. This is an aggressive offset thread, not a " lets drive on sidewalls " thread. Its intended purpose is for those running lower offsets, or wider rims/tires to share their setups and experiences with others. You purchase a performance oriented car, put power mods on it, then go out and make it less safe then it is in stock form by cheaping out on skinny tires and shit coil overs, just to use the stance excuse for why u did that? Heres to seeing your car smushed into a wall because you thought the sidewalls you drive on would carry you through the corner at 120mph like the evo's and sti's youre trying to keep up with at the cool kids car meets.

I built my car for three things and three things only. 1. a fun reliableish daily driver. 2. a car that is decent for highway rolls. 3. a car that has the stance and fitment I want. I didn't "cheap out" on tires...I bought ones that stretch well for the look I wanted on MY car.
also fuck you, hoping I hit a wall at 120, you are a piece of shit for wishing that on anyone, here's hoping you get terminal fucking brain cancer.

[Darth_Nuruodo]

Then why are you here and not on m247? They love that shit. And the wall doesn't sound like a bad place for you either.

Also, you were being told you cheaped out on your suspension, not tires. You just fucked up when you bought the tires. Tires that "stretch well", really? You mean ones that are built well enough that they don't fall to pieces because you mounted them improperly and in a way that the manufacturer never intended or designed them for? Good job, I guess, not doing more stupid things....

[jonspeed3]

@Raider can we get some clean up.

The thread has a purpose and doesnt need useless trolling and antagonizing of members who want to share a different aspect of the car they'd like to modify.

useless bashing is useless.
If its not your car STFU.

[Stangcobra]

Originally Posted by jonspeed3 @Raider can we get some clean up. The thread has a purpose and doesnt need useless trolling and antagonizing of members who want to share a different aspect of the car they'd like to modify. useless bashing is useless. If its not your car STFU.

thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou
the only reason I've been so hostile in this thread is because of all the hate I was getting. I enjoy performance and going fast as much as the next guy but I also have an interest in stance and fitment. I posted in here because it was the one thread here where that was accepted. Heres hoping this can get cleaned up and we can all go our seperate ways on it

[Chimmike]

Originally Posted by Stangcobra I built my car for three things and three things only. 1. a fun reliableish daily driver. 2. a car that is decent for highway rolls. 3. a car that has the stance and fitment I want. I didn't "cheap out" on tires...I bought ones that stretch well for the look I wanted on MY car. also fuck you, hoping I hit a wall at 120, you are a piece of shit for wishing that on anyone, here's hoping you get terminal fucking brain cancer.

you bought shit wheels, shit tires, and even shittier coilovers so you could "look" decent.

yeah....you didn't cheap out on anything.............asstard.

Originally Posted by jonspeed3 @Raider can we get some clean up. The thread has a purpose and doesnt need useless trolling and antagonizing of members who want to share a different aspect of the car they'd like to modify. useless bashing is useless. If its not your car STFU.

Nope, Kevin and Darksun gave free reign to fuck with the stancefags all we want.

[Stangcobra]

Please explain how rotas are shit wheels other than the fact that they are cast and not forged. Oem Mazda wheels are cast. Most of the wheels you guys have on your cars are cast. Pretty much everything on cars nowadays is cast. So what is the difference between a cast rota wheel and a cast oem Mazda wheel.

[Darth_Nuruodo]

You've been shown repeatedly what's wrong with ROTAs, you just refuse to accept it.

[Chimmike]

Rotas have been cracking since before you were 10 years old dude.

[Darth_Nuruodo]

That wasn't that long ago @chimmike, Rotas sound like perfectly good rims to a minor.

[radbrad]

and arnt rotas really heavy?

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by Downmented @secondchance Im surprised to say that you are more intelligent than i though

Everyone has their moments i guess hey?

Originally Posted by Stangcobra Please explain how rotas are shit wheels other than the fact that they are cast and not forged. Oem Mazda wheels are cast. Most of the wheels you guys have on your cars are cast. Pretty much everything on cars nowadays is cast. So what is the difference between a cast rota wheel and a cast oem Mazda wheel.

I referred you to a very visual Google link. It really comes down to the production of the wheels. They are made to fit into the marketplace at a cheap price point, and when you combine that with where they are made, the finished product sadly ends up being what it is.

Rota is a cheap replica wheel, which when put under stress has shown numerous times to fail. Think about it. Not only are you running a wheel with a bad history, but your also running almost no tire between it and the road... Its almost as if you are begging it to fail.

Originally Posted by Stangcobra I built my car for three things and three things only. 1. a fun reliableish daily driver. 2. a car that is decent for highway rolls. 3. a car that has the stance and fitment I want. I didn't "cheap out" on tires...I bought ones that stretch well for the look I wanted on MY car. also fuck you, hoping I hit a wall at 120, you are a piece of shit for wishing that on anyone, here's hoping you get terminal fucking brain cancer.

1. The car was a fun reliablish car stock. 2. Racing on the highway? lol. I miss being 18. If you hadnt cheaped out and bought tires meant for a civic, you might be able to grip outside of a low rpm roll on the highway. 3. This isnt the stance you want as youve said multiple times. You want lower it lower, and more "STANCE"... so you must be mid build? Cause im fucking confused.

[shadesofgray19]

Originally Posted by Downmented You are in an aggressive fitment thread, i would only assume that by viewing/ posting in this thread constantly, that one might possibly know the difference between authentic and knock offs. I guess since i own the same set of Sonic Tuning st120's its difficult for me to make the mistake lol

So what makes sonic toooning wheels soooo much better than Rota's?

[dastpe]

theyre heavier

[:: Gusto ::]

Sold the VOLK CV-Pro's today...
& purchased tires for the Racing Hart J5's...

this next set up should rub like crazy!!!
yay!!

[apawk]

So there is a regular wheel/tire thread and an aggressive wheel and tire thread I want a happy medium I want to barely push the limit on some 18x8s lowered on Eibach PK... any suggestions on offset - I want to be flush or maybe a tad beyond but not much more. Been looking at the XXR 527s +35. With the Eibach PK i think it would work but dont want it to look like im a 4x4 since its not slammed.

Any info that could help me out would be greatly appreciated.

TY in advance.

[chuckms6]

just to clear the air about cast vs forged, most situations where the rotas were destroyed were in impacts with curbs or walls. also, @secondchance i dont think you clicked any of those links in those google results you posted. every single one contradicts your point.

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by chuckms6 just to clear the air about cast vs forged, most situations where the rotas were destroyed were in impacts with curbs or walls. also, @secondchance i dont think you clicked any of those links in those google results you posted. every single one contradicts your point.

Clearly you are boarderline handicapped. If you look clearly, the second link is the images link, which shows you this, since you are retarded ill copy paste it for you. BTW, these are all from the first 2 pages of the images link.

DERP

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by apawk So there is a regular wheel/tire thread and an aggressive wheel and tire thread I want a happy medium I want to barely push the limit on some 18x8s lowered on Eibach PK... any suggestions on offset - I want to be flush or maybe a tad beyond but not much more. Been looking at the XXR 527s +35. With the Eibach PK i think it would work but dont want it to look like im a 4x4 since its not slammed. Any info that could help me out would be greatly appreciated. TY in advance.

18x8 +30

[chuckms6]

Originally Posted by secondchance Clearly you are boarderline handicapped. If you look clearly, the second link is the images link, which shows you this, since you are retarded ill copy paste it for you. BTW, these are all from the first 2 pages of the images link. DERP

well since you want to play that game...

first of all, you didnt link the image search. you link the search results page which led to links to forums with people asking the same questions about quality. every single link starts out with someone bashing rotas for breaking, while its quite obvious that the wheel was in an impact, and they are quickly corrected by people with experience with cheap and expensive wheels.

second of all, you must be borderline handicapped if you believe an image without context. but if you want some of those, here you go.









those are all from this thread in the results of the page that YOU posted. ANY wheel can and will be destroyed when submitted to forces it wasn't designed for. singling out one company just because it offers a similar product for a quarter of the price is childish and republican.

lastly, i have friends with all kinds of wheels, and the ones with rotas care the least about them but have the least problems. they dont try to rally their cars over curbs but they are confident in the product enough to daily it. if something does happen, its easily replaceable because they are inexpensive. now i also have other friends with expensive wheels who think they are the hot shit, bend a lip on a pothole, and pay as much for just a barrel than the people with rotas paid for the whole set. you tell me who made the smarter purchase, as im clearly incapable of cognitive thought.

next time take your helmet off before pointing at your classmates.

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by chuckms6 well since you want to play that game... first of all, you didnt link the image search. you link the search results page which led to links to forums with people asking the same questions about quality. every single link starts out with someone bashing rotas for breaking, while its quite obvious that the wheel was in an impact, and they are quickly corrected by people with experience with cheap and expensive wheels. second of all, you must be borderline handicapped if you believe an image without context. but if you want some of those, here you go. those are all from this thread in the results of the page that YOU posted. ANY wheel can and will be destroyed when submitted to forces it wasn't designed for. singling out one company just because it offers a similar product for a quarter of the price is childish and republican. lastly, i have friends with all kinds of wheels, and the ones with rotas care the least about them but have the least problems. they dont try to rally their cars over curbs but they are confident in the product enough to daily it. if something does happen, its easily replaceable because they are inexpensive. now i also have other friends with expensive wheels who think they are the hot shit, bend a lip on a pothole, and pay as much for just a barrel than the people with rotas paid for the whole set. you tell me who made the smarter purchase, as im clearly incapable of cognitive thought. next time take your helmet off before pointing at your classmates.

Again, its as if you are completely retarded. I said if you could read, that it is the second link on the page. Please try the link again.

Secondly, yes there are others on there, congratulations you actually were perceptive and saw something correct for once. Sadly, what u failed to see, is the point being made. The rota failure issue is rampant and WELL KNOWN. I myself owned rotas, which wouldnt balance, and created wheel shake at 60mph and 80mph. I sold them because the lower cost wasnt worth the cheap, unsafe feeling they give off.

I think its cute you referenced your "Friends" and their wheels. Who the fuck cares exactly? I have multiple "Friends" with wheels too. Some with Rotas on their Evo's even. Even they know the wheels are shit and talk about it often. They are a stop gap, a bandaid, even sometimes a winter wheel, but not some amazingly manufactured safe wheel they love, because they aren't. Now using the "if they fail they are easy to replace cause they are cheap" argument was you admitting you're 1. wrong, 2. a stupid uneducated child, 3. having a hard time making a fact based argument.

Oh, and we don't have "republicans" in Canada bro. But cute attempt to hurt my political heart strings.. ?!?!


Lastly, look at the pics you posted. Those wheels were either in accidents, or hit debris on the road. Now look at the ones i posted. The wheels FUCKING FELL APART ON THE SPOKES BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING SHITTY.

Its a simple concept, cognitively ponder that one asshat

[apawk]

Originally Posted by secondchance 18x8 +30

Any pics of +30 on a genwin in this thread?! I'll flip back through the pages and look.


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[:: Gusto ::]

In the ROTA pics of destruction... since when does rota make a carbon fiber barreled wheel???

O.. & Rota wheels are like shoes @ PAYLESS(discount/knock-off shoe store in the US).... they look decent.. they function for the time being.. but it's only a matter of time before they fail.

[GOT 2RBO]

I have cheap wheels on my car (sonic tuning), I drive the car daily and i've had them over a year on bc coils nearly maxed out, and have not had a SINGLE issue other than the paint coating chipping. I plan on powdercoating them soon, so that will no longer be an issue. I have owned rotas as well for nearly 2 years and never had issues out of them as well.

why don't everyone shut the fuck up and post pictures of sexy fitted/stanced cars?

Thanks!

[Stangcobra]

Rotas work for what they are. They're decent wheels. I dd mine, they haven't cracked yet even after nailing a curb...

[Neverlift]

Originally Posted by Design You may be surprised to know they have the same structural integrity as Enkei and other high volume OEM suppliers. Not surprising since most automotive manufactures have stringent requirements. Same casting process. Same raw materials. Same QA compliance.

Rota does not use MAT Technology... only Konig does.

LOL @ tool running into curbs.

[anavrinIV]

Originally Posted by another 6cms6 Rota does not use MAT Technology... only Konig does

Just picking nits here but it's actually Enkei who uses the MAT process. They make the better wheels for konig (milligrams, kilograms etc...)

[Neverlift]

I meant, Konig is the only "knock off" brand to use it. I guess I should have been more clear.

... and Enkei does not manufacture those wheels. They lease the rights to the technology to Konig.

So to elaborate, Rota does not use the same casting process, at all, ever.

[chuckms6]

Originally Posted by secondchance Again, its as if you are completely retarded. I said if you could read, that it is the second link on the page. Please try the link again. once again, images are nothing without context Secondly, yes there are others on there, congratulations you actually were perceptive and saw something correct for once. Sadly, what u failed to see, is the point being made. The rota failure issue is rampant and WELL KNOWN. I myself owned rotas, which wouldnt balance, and created wheel shake at 60mph and 80mph. I sold them because the lower cost wasnt worth the cheap, unsafe feeling they give off. so after one set that you didnt try to warranty you just gave up and branded all rotas as bad? unless they were used and the previous owner bent them.. I think its cute you referenced your "Friends" and their wheels. Who the fuck cares exactly? I have multiple "Friends" with wheels too. Some with Rotas on their Evo's even. Even they know the wheels are shit and talk about it often. They are a stop gap, a bandaid, even sometimes a winter wheel, but not some amazingly manufactured safe wheel they love, because they aren't. Now using the "if they fail they are easy to replace cause they are cheap" argument was you admitting you're 1. wrong, 2. a stupid uneducated child, 3. having a hard time making a fact based argument. tell me something, how many of them are completely happy with their "shitty" purchase? i bet most are, otherwise they wouldnt have them. how many daily them? how many have destroyed them backing out of the driveway? i bet its close to none of them. and i never said fail, i said something happened, meaning they get into an accident or hit a curb at a high rate of speed. something that few wheels can take without damage Oh, and we don't have "republicans" in Canada bro. But cute attempt to hurt my political heart strings.. ?!?! i thought canadians were nice and polite. i guess i was wrong about that too Lastly, look at the pics you posted. Those wheels were either in accidents, or hit debris on the road. Now look at the ones i posted. The wheels FUCKING FELL APART ON THE SPOKES BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING SHITTY. and youre saying the rotas you posted weren't? all this talk youve been doing and youve yet to show me a complete story of someone driving normally and their wheel completely failing at random. if you want to argue at least make an effort to bring good points to the table instead of going off of hearsay and google pics Its a simple concept, cognitively ponder that one asshat

lol

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by chuckms6 lol

You are simply trying to pick apart the original argument. Fact, Rota has a higher failure rate then almost any other brand of wheels, regardless of the driving circumstances. Fact, they are made offshore to a lower standard then wheels in the states, japan, and even china. Fact, you get what you pay for.

Now to reply to the ignorant claims. If you go to google, and again type in Rota Wheel Failure, and click on the images, they all take u to forum posts. Read a few, some were track, and some were normal dd spirited driving. Now do the same on the other brands. None were track, and all were potholes and circumstances that the wheels were meant to withstand. Rotas FAIL. Other wheels break when damaged or when they are in an accident. These are 2 VERY DIFFERENT events. I get that you have a hard time separating the 2 in your brain, but you need to get it eventually don't you? Maybe not.

[Stangcobra]

for fucks sake secondchance
I hit a fucking curb doing 55 on my ROTAS
do you know what happened? they got curbed...not cracked or bent but fucking curbed.
again stop being so fucking ignorant. 5 years ago I would agree with you Rotas were garbage.
Nowadays theyre actual legitimate wheels. But hey, I dont see any wheels in your signature, so why should we be listening to your (incorrect) opinion anyway.

[3Gee Tee]

The reason you read about so many Rotas failing is simply because there are a lot more people running them than other more costly rims.

I've owned 3 sets during my ricer Honda days and they all held up to my beating.


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[GOT 2RBO]

^^^^hit the nail on the head!

Think about...if everyone were driving around on 3-4k wheels, we all would be scared to death to so much as hit a small pothole (at least I know I would be). With Rotas/Sonic tuning/Konig/insert cheap ass wheel here, if something gets bent or broke, they are super easy and cheap to replace. I'd rather replace a 200 dollar wheel than a 900-1,000 wheel. If my car was a show car or I drove it like 2-3 times a month, then yes bring on the Volks. But that isn't my scenario, so for someone like myself, a cheaper nice looking wheel is the best option.

The difference with myself, though, is the fact that I know and understand that my Sonic Tuning/Rota wheels that i've owned in the past are far inferior to Volk/Work/Wedsport wheels, and would never hold a candle in durability.

But at the end of the day, they will not fit in my budget and would not be something I feel comfortable about driving daily on. Regardless, though, is that it don't matter what wheel you own, that wheel CAN and WILL be damaged if you run into shit and don't pay attention regardless of the manufacture.

Now, commence posting piktarz.