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nycMS3 11-14-2011 07:08 PM

Are XXR wheels this fragile?
 
I know you dicks are going to say "was expecting a totalled MS3 on xxr ricer rims". But friend of mine sent me this link from a evo forum and thought you guys might enjoy this as well. I really do wonder if the OP's comments are true

EVO IX vs. Fake Wheels = One FREAKED up CAR - evolutionm.net

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...2/IMG_6971.jpg

Tokay444 11-14-2011 07:26 PM

Cast wheels suck man.
Especially cheap ones.

Raider 11-14-2011 07:37 PM

Hellaflush....

What did he hit?

Tokay444 11-14-2011 07:39 PM

She. Lol.
So could be anything from a curb to small children playing in the street.

nycMS3 11-14-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 1124602)
Hellaflush....

What did he hit?

"Supposedly" nothing, happened while driving 30-40 mph on a straight smooth road locally

Easter Bunny 11-14-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 1124602)
Hellaflush....

What did he hit?

Supposedly nothing, check out the link.

Raider 11-14-2011 07:45 PM

Too lazy to click link, thus I posted.

I call bullshit. Hit a pothole or something.

Tokay444 11-14-2011 07:47 PM

Hit a fucking train car.

8.5MS3 11-14-2011 07:48 PM

jeebus

Raider 11-14-2011 07:54 PM

Cricked link. New/used. They were bad then to be sold dirt cheap.

Bigger fail pic.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...2/IMG_6967.jpg

Design 11-14-2011 07:56 PM

This was a pretty big discussion long ago in a Rota thread. ALL wheels can crack - even forged. I've seen it happen to Rays, Buddy Club, HRE, DPE, etc. Mostly due to RARE defects in manufacturing (most suppliers at least). This one is forged and was discovered before separation could occur.:

http://s14.directupload.net/images/111010/wy9alkht.jpg


The whole "stay away from cast" is somewhat of a stigma these days. It's more about volume, consistency and quality control. IMO, if going cast, it's best to stick with manufacturers that build to OEM wheel specifications. Rota, Enkei, and BBS all generate sufficient volume and are longtime suppliers to Ford, Mazda, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and others.

Tokay444 11-14-2011 07:56 PM

My guess is wheel broke on impact with cornerstone of Egyptian pyramid.

Design 11-14-2011 08:04 PM

I'd like to see the other side to see if this was a clearance issue. Granted the damn thing's bent. But it looks awfully close to the caliper...

Slay0r 11-14-2011 08:11 PM

'fishy' story (IMO)

nycMS3 11-14-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slay0r (Post 1124681)
'fishy' story (IMO)

As fishy as you making your first post in this thread

xb2ms3 11-14-2011 08:15 PM

she drove on the FDR for 5 minutes

Mizzle 11-14-2011 08:26 PM

hey.
Is she hot?

Slay0r 11-14-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycMS3 (Post 1124684)
As fishy as you making your first post in this thread

well im an evoxforums and evom member that happened to send a member here the link a lil b4 this thread was posted. So im familiar with the thread, and yes there are many parts of the story that just dont add up

Darksun280 11-14-2011 08:52 PM

Oh god the internet is like grass to sheep. You just eat it up.

I'm arguing this shit on X forums it's such nonsense

This is why you don't buy knockoff wheels. - EvoXForums.com - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Forums

Slay0r 11-14-2011 08:56 PM

yuup

Darksun280 11-14-2011 08:56 PM

This Ferrari owner hit a curb. His rims shit too?

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6...ririmbreak.jpg

MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex 11-14-2011 09:10 PM

So uh...smooth road....but if the wheel came apart....what'd she hit afterward that DESTROYED THE ENTIRE FRONT END?! Righttttt

Looks more like a hit & run to me.

Raider 11-15-2011 04:02 AM

She lost control and hit a parked car.

Tokay444 11-15-2011 06:08 AM

I knew a guy who bought a Lexus sc when they first came out.
His wheel disintigrated on the highway and took out the entire side of his car.
Police said he hit someone.
He refused to take that charge.
Said "yes is was speeding (140 in 100), but no I didn't hit anyone or anything."
Told Lexus he wouldn't be paying for the car and wasn't allowing his insurance to cover it either.
Lexus sent an accident forensics team to examine the car and scene.
No sign of collision.
Caliper let loose and nuked everything.
Car comped.
If this chick truly believes her own bull shit, she'd be getting some the xxr folks involved first hand to investigate.

Macedawg 11-15-2011 06:09 AM

clearly she was driving to the grocery store, b/c there had to have been a damn good reason why she was out of the kitchen to begin with..

zpele 11-15-2011 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 1124965)
I knew a guy who bought a Lexus sc when they first came out.
His wheel disintigrated on the highway and took out the entire side of his car.
Police said he hit someone.
He refused to take that charge.
Said "yes is was speeding (140 in 100), but no I didn't hit anyone or anything."
Told Lexus he wouldn't be paying for the car and wasn't allowing his insurance to cover it either.
Lexus sent an accident forensics team to examine the car and scene.
No sign of collision.
Caliper let loose and nuked everything.
Car comped.
If this chick truly believes her own bull shit, she'd be getting some the xxr folks involved first hand to investigate.

She's obviously stupid cause she already drives a slow car.

Also, she should never have been driving in the first place unless it was to pick up porn for her man or groceries for her kitchen.

exftw 11-15-2011 06:30 AM

holy failrims batman

Mizzle 11-15-2011 06:30 AM

@Darksun280

I'm not joining there to post this, but feel free to tell them that I rear-ended an F150 at 40mph before veering off the side of the road and into a hillside... in my '94 Z34... and it didn't have that much damage lol.

I drove it home from the impound.

Easter Bunny 11-15-2011 06:34 AM

I have determined the root cause of this accident









WOMAN DRIVER

JacksonMS30 11-15-2011 06:38 AM

Is it possible that she hit the parked car and that destroyed the wheel? Then she used the wheel being destroyed as an excuse for why she hit the parked car.

I have a friend who totaled his vette while showing off. New clutch grabbed quicker than he was used to (with his previous slipping clutch), broke traction in third gear and he hit a curb and a gard rail. But what "really" happened was he had a "blowout". He now has a new corvette...

Mizzle 11-15-2011 06:46 AM

I can promise you that story is a fat lie.
Ever notice it's always a friend of a friend or "so me and my buddies are just cruising around innocently..." lol

AtTheDriveIn 11-15-2011 06:54 AM

I can believe this story. Its totally possible. The Rotas on my neighbors 240 feel apart on the highway, or one of them. Then he said he hit a nasty pothole a couple of days before. Maybe it did happen and there was an issue with the wheel already.

Macedawg 11-15-2011 06:55 AM

if a prior pothole started the fail, sounds like the crash finished it

Raider 11-15-2011 06:56 AM

That is key. Hit a pothole. But not right then, possibly recently, weakening the wheel.

rfinkle2 11-15-2011 07:04 AM

I think that is a Rota "grid" wheel with an XXR center cap actually.

The evo guys don't like Rotas or XXR wheels.

You won't find unbiased info on Rotas on the evo forums (@ least that was the case about a year ago).

Rotas:Evo forums as CPE:msf.

Mizzle 11-15-2011 11:48 AM

".... my wheel fell apart and I hit a parked car doing 30."

"Why is your whole front end torn apart?"

"...wait, what?"

"....and why is there gravel in your lugnut holes clearly indicating sideways travel through gravel...something not possible from your story nor how a car would react in that type of crash?"

"BECAUSE RACECAR SPINOUT!"

Raider 11-15-2011 11:55 AM

I wanna know why the 1 lugnut is missing...

Macedawg 11-15-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 1125403)
I wanna know why the 1 lugnut is missing...

reduced weight bc racecar

bcmurphy87 11-15-2011 12:03 PM

that is the answer to all of this "because RACECAR"

Raider 11-15-2011 12:05 PM

She should consider herself lucky. This guy had Enki's! I guess the added weight does overheat brakes....:shhh:

http://images.copart.com/website/dat...7722271_1X.JPG
http://www.copart.com/c2/individualL...SEARCH_RESULTS

Slay0r 11-15-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 (Post 1125017)
I think that is a Rota "grid" wheel with an XXR center cap actually.

The evo guys don't like Rotas or XXR wheels.

You won't find unbiased info on Rotas on the evo forums (@ least that was the case about a year ago).

Rotas:Evo forums as CPE:msf.

those are XXR 522 They are 7 spoke, Grids are 6



Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 1125422)
She should consider herself lucky. This guy had Enki's! I guess the added weight does overheat brakes....:shhh:

http://images.copart.com/website/dat...7722271_1X.JPG
http://www.copart.com/c2/individualL...SEARCH_RESULTS

All evo x owners have enkei's,...they are our stockers, but i c what u did there

rfinkle2 11-15-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slay0r (Post 1125879)
those are XXR 522 (they are 7 spoke Grids are 6





All evo x owners have enkei's,...they are our stockers

I stand corrected Mr. Slayor!

Raider 11-15-2011 05:57 PM

Then you are all fucked! Lol

Slay0r 11-15-2011 08:58 PM

those Enkies are nice for stockers (21lbs) and actually, my wheels came in today so another memeber (beezaa) is getting my enkeis

BeeZaa 11-15-2011 09:01 PM

I should have the evo x wheels on by the end of the week. I need to find out how to properly roll the fenders on a gen 2.

Raider 11-16-2011 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slay0r (Post 1126220)
those Enkies are nice for stockers (21lbs) and actually, my wheels came in today so another memeber (beezaa) is getting my enkeis

I only threw the brand out because I was thinking of a wheel brand for the scorched Evo pic.

Captain KR 11-16-2011 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macedawg (Post 1124966)
clearly she was driving to the grocery store, b/c there had to have been a damn good reason why she was out of the kitchen to begin with..

hahahahahahaah u are freakin hilarious!

Tokay444 11-16-2011 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeZaa (Post 1126228)
I should have the evo x wheels on by the end of the week. I need to find out how to properly roll the fenders on a gen 2.

Why would you need to roll the fenders?

rfinkle2 11-16-2011 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 1126426)
Why would you need to roll the fenders?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeZaa (Post 1126228)
I should have the evo x wheels on by the end of the week. I need to find out how to properly roll the fenders on a gen 2.

We have a shit ton of room (gen2)Beezaa.

Depending on your suspension set up, you should have plenty 'o room.

I'm running a 18x8.5+45 on H&R springs and have no issues (not even close to rubbing).

goob_os101 11-16-2011 07:21 AM

I hope they are not that bad...I want these:
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn....jpg?1320086991

XXR 530 Wheels - Brand new rims for 2012

Slay0r 11-16-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 (Post 1126510)
We have a shit ton of room (gen2)Beezaa.

Depending on your suspension set up, you should have plenty 'o room.

I'm running a 18x8.5+45 on H&R springs and have no issues (not even close to rubbing).


the Evo x stock Enkeis are 18x8.5 et38. Hes stock height now, but will b lowered on at least coils soon ;)


Goob- Konig came out with a mesh/CSL style wheel for this year as well. I know they wont be as cheap as the XXRs, but there are mult. companies that make that style of wheel. Any word on the weight of those 530s?

4G63 11-16-2011 09:02 AM

It broke mainly do to the fact that ALL Evo's have so much unstoppable power that the wheel was no match. Could've been fucking iron, wrapped in titanium, then recovered with carbon fiber and it still wouldve broken.

This is RARE for any wheel to do this in fact. Think of how often you've seen it happen on this forum...I've been a member and lurking for over 2yrs and I've yet to see it happen. Shit happens no wheel is perfect.

Tokay444 11-16-2011 10:00 AM

Still won't need a fender roll.

4G63 11-16-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slay0r (Post 1126650)
Konig came out with a mesh/CSL style wheel for this year as well. I know they wont be as cheap as the XXRs, but there are mult. companies that make that style of wheel. Any word on the weight of those 530s?

21.8 pounds for a 18x9.75

If you scroll down on any of the wheels on their site it give all the info on the wheel. It's in a box I'm assuming that 21.8 is for that size wheel.

@Darksun280 doesn't look like I'm gonna get XXR's anymore hahaha. Probably going with Enkei NT03+M's and powdercoat em gold

InFeXIoN 11-16-2011 10:21 AM

i like them, but wth, the widths jump from 7.5 to 8.75? lol



Quote:

Originally Posted by goob_os101 (Post 1126530)


Slay0r 11-16-2011 10:35 AM

lol @ "Approximate weight 21.8lbs" ...Seems pretty exact to me. But i do think those wheels will b heavier than 22 lbs, but that just me

BReif61 11-16-2011 11:31 AM

My guess? Pothole started a crack, vibration from driving expanded it to the failure point and we all see the result.

Would this deter me from buying cast wheels? No, as the first crack had to start at an imperfection, so that wheel was really fucked from the get-go. Manufacturing flaws are just a fact of life, and can happen with any process.

That being said, I must say I am a fan of forged wheels. I schwacked a crater (calling it a pothole would be the equivalent of calling the Grand Canyon a drain swale) that blew a hole in the sidewall big enough to put my finger through, but the wheel shrugged it off like a fuckin' BOSS.

Mazdanspeed3 11-16-2011 12:55 PM

Wheel Tech - Wheel Construction

Info on all types of wheel construction ^^^ :paranoid:

Domino81 11-17-2011 10:20 AM

I hope I don't have that with Sonic Tuning wheels eventually when I get a set.

Mazdanspeed3 11-17-2011 07:04 PM

no they use the low pressure casting system = higher quality but at a slightly higher manufacturing cost. I believe Enkei uses the same technology

Darksun280 11-17-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazdanspeed3 (Post 1129038)
no they use the low pressure casting system = higher quality but at a slightly higher manufacturing cost. I believe Enkei uses the same technology

i thought high pressure was higher quality not low pressure.

Neverlift 11-17-2011 07:23 PM

You thought wrong blackness.

Tokay444 11-18-2011 04:16 AM

You just high.

SKiZ0TT 11-22-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goob_os101 (Post 1126530)

Same mesh design as the TSW's I have..

Tokay444 11-22-2011 10:05 AM

There's only so many ways to knock off BBS.

Domino81 11-22-2011 11:01 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...no81/ST100.jpg

I know! :D

Woah... holy fuck. That's enormous. BRB...

There... that's better. :)

FightaX 12-27-2011 05:57 PM

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I just wanted to say this is pretty crazy/funny. I know this chick, shes local to me. She is a pretty cool / chill gal. Sucks that this happened to her. I don't know if I can really believe the story, but whos in for pics!?

JohnMS3 12-27-2011 05:59 PM

noods?

FightaX 12-27-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMS3 (Post 1183656)
noods?

that is a negative red leader.

:: Gusto :: 01-04-2012 09:20 PM

blah blah blah...

shit happens.. sometimes things don't work out.. sometimes things break... don't line up.

that's life.. nothing is perfect. Stop trying to say because 10people on random forums had wheels blow up/break/crack.. doesn't mean.. they are all crap.

that being said, yes you usually get what you pay for.
pay for cheap shit.. get a cheap product...
but Im not going to say it applies for wheels..

but say you buy a cheap front lip.. does it line up like a OEM unit.. or a Auto.Exe...
NO... so you buy cheap wheels.. what keeps their cost down..

they aren't cheap cuz the are in the business to give shit away.. im sure they are out to make money. If they are $650 new... what are they making off a set..?
$200-250..?
So it cost them $400 to make a set.... that includes.. pouring the cast.. paint..
thats cheap. a good shop is going to charge you at least $100 to paint that cheap lip you just bought. think about it.

SpeedSixxx 01-11-2012 06:12 PM

ive had XXR rims with much thinner spokes on my speed for 2 years now and no problems.

they are cheaper rims that will dent easy but you do for the most part get what you pay for.

i'd buy a set of rims from them again for the right price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightaX (Post 1183651)
I just wanted to say this is pretty crazy/funny. I know this chick, shes local to me. She is a pretty cool / chill gal. Sucks that this happened to her. I don't know if I can really believe the story, but whos in for pics!?

stupid bitch should stick with a civic...

girls and "fast" cars, don't go together.

def not a turn on for me.

Design 01-12-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by :: Gusto :: (Post 1194205)
blah blah blah...

shit happens.. sometimes things don't work out.. sometimes things break... don't line up.

that's life.. nothing is perfect. Stop trying to say because 10people on random forums had wheels blow up/break/crack.. doesn't mean.. they are all crap.

that being said, yes you usually get what you pay for.
pay for cheap shit.. get a cheap product...
but Im not going to say it applies for wheels..

but say you buy a cheap front lip.. does it line up like a OEM unit.. or a Auto.Exe...
NO... so you buy cheap wheels.. what keeps their cost down..

they aren't cheap cuz the are in the business to give shit away.. im sure they are out to make money. If they are $650 new... what are they making off a set..?
$200-250..?
So it cost them $400 to make a set.... that includes.. pouring the cast.. paint..
thats cheap. a good shop is going to charge you at least $100 to paint that cheap lip you just bought. think about it.

A majority of Mazda's wheels are manufactured by Enkie, as with many Japanese models. In fact, I've read on several occasions that the 5 spoke RX8 wheel is cast spun. Still trying to get confirmation on that. :cool:

The big difference with wheel manufacturers is more cosmetic than structural. Paint, labor, and import costs can easily triple the price. If the manufacturer is an OEM supplier, chances are the structural materials and manufacturing methods are similar.

dubunderpar 01-13-2012 07:22 AM

I totally believe this girl's story, I see wheels shatter themselves to pieces everyday. Plus why would anyone ever lie on a car forum?

Domino81 01-13-2012 07:31 AM

Attention?

dubunderpar 01-13-2012 07:51 AM

What do you mean? Your rx8s did this the other day....

SofaKingAwesome 01-13-2012 08:02 AM

Fuck, got beat twice on "Because Racecar"

SofaKingAwesome 01-13-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightaX (Post 1183651)
I just wanted to say this is pretty crazy/funny. I know this chick, shes local to me. She is a pretty cool / chill gal. Sucks that this happened to her. I don't know if I can really believe the story, but whos in for pics!?

Fixed

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/p..._aoki/fast.jpg

Domino81 01-13-2012 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubunderpar (Post 1208504)
What do you mean? Your rx8s did this the other day....

Cracked and broke in half? Mine are tweaked, not broke. That's why I'm buying 4 new ones. :D

Raider 11-30-2012 02:13 PM

That Evo chick is internet famous

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