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After doing the Nator Style DP, decided to get a dyno to see if there are any gains. My butt dyno said yes, but was expecting about a 8whp gain and maybe 10-12wtq gain. Mouse0330 and I went today to Tuning Tricks at Fort Myers. The same place we goto for every dyno to try keep records/progress on the same dyno. It's a Dyno Dynamics for those that didn't know about it from our past dynos. Found out something too, My Meth that is setup on the car now is not for power anymore. At this level of power it is now just for safety lol. No real power came from the Meth this time. Only about (give and/or take) 2-4whp and 3-5wtq, funny how that is now. We even tried upping the gain and lowering the gain on the injection amount and still no difference. The car is louder at WOT. It's been smelling more lately hehehe. No CEL as of yet with over 230+ miles on it and even during the dyno no CELs. The foulers are working good, even the AFR is doing really good, which I expected them to be wrong during the dyno pulls. I think we did 10 pulls on my car, I lost count after 5 of them lol. Best Dyno sheets, the rest were above and below at different points of the RPM but very similar. Very Consistent!   Video is in WMV format about 180+mb. Sorry it's so big. Right Click and Save Target As: http://www.freedomcomputers.net/ms3/dyno/dyno40.wmv Last Dyno was: 292whp 299wtq (lost torque using 1.05 map and L/A IC) 66temp 53humidity OTS map 1.05 stage2+sf 93 This one is: 319whp 356wtq 67temp 31humidity OTS map 1.05 stage2+sf 93 Only difference is: I added the Nator Style DP and ITV24's gapped to 26. NATOR Style DownPipe!!! Rice Dyno Comparo: DynaPack = 355WHP 395WTQ DynoJet = 337WHP 375WTQ Mustang Dyno = 333WHP 371WTQ DynoDynamics = 319WHP 356WTQ Enjoy!!!!
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pretty awsome for a ghetto DP ! way to go!
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so what do you think the gutted dp netted?
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Nice numbers for the guinea pig....lol
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57wtq Can round it down from the other 9 dynos to: 25whp 55wtq If you wanna take it down another notch lol 20whp 50wtq lol not bad for about a $55 DP HAHAHAHAHA. By far the BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IN MS3 HISTORY!!!!!!!!!     The TP was the remaining $25 in the NSDP thread total lol.
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I was totally surpised of the gains!        Did I just kill the aftermarket DP's?
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nice! those are actually really good numbers
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holy shit these are nice numbers. are these just OTS maps or your tuning yourself?
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Take those ricer speculation numbers out the bottom of your post whats wrong with you, you know better....
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Bioevolve...lets say i was to Cut and replace stock DP cat with piping instead of gutting (To lazy to gut it and get it right) lol Will i gain the same performance you've achieved? You said 20hp and 50tq? That just DP or DP and TP
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im bout to go get me a stock ms6 downpipe...i has no moneys for cpe at the moment... I assume cutting the cat out and replacing with a open pipe will prob net you a lil more then just gutting. just an assumption. ty for the idea.
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Just make sure the cuts are not edgy, meaning if you cut with a cutting torch, clean the cuts up. A cutting wheel, bandsaw or a plasma cutter would be a cleaner cut. Question: Does the MS6 have two cats like the MS3? One in the DP and the other in the TP?
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I've got a stock DP that I will sell you..already gutted one cat..lol
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I have the SU tp and I'm in need of a lil more "cheaper" power.
you have a speed 6? what cat is gutted the tp or dp cat? how much for the stock dp shipped if it is a ms6 dp. ty
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Did you have the same v105 last time you ran? Those are crazy gains! what did you run the time before that...297-330?
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Last Dyno was: 292whp 299wtq (lost torque using 1.05 map and L/A IC) 66temp 53humidity OTS map 1.05 stage2+sf 93 This one is: 319whp 356wtq 67temp 31humidity OTS map 1.05 stage2+sf 93 With this combination/setup now has unleashed some raw powa! Hell I'm not even tuned yet lmao. 
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Third Dyno! Another Dyno Run, but with the TT L/A IC Went a DYNO today! Start spray 8psi, dual M2 nozzles (front of TB and in IM), 50/50 mix, 250pump, full spray on WOT. I have adjusted gains fore and aft. If you watched the video, it shows that we adjusted and still didn't make any difference. Even changed start sprays. Maybe I will change to dual M3 or M4 nozzle and see if it will change anything.
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Those are some good numbers. Wouldnt mind hearing a sound clip of your car.
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But like I said before, you'll get a bit of power with meth, just not as much as if you tuned the meth in. For instance, in my SRT-4, when I tuned my 100% meth in, I picked up about 40WHP with a single M9 injector and that was with a very conservative tune. The ECU will adjust for the cooler temps and richer AFR your meth will cause, but it won't scale the tune aggressively. That's why you will see some power gains, but on a limited scale.
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Very smooth graph as well. I like it.
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 What I'm trying to say is that I don't want a tune dependant on Meth lol.
 
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Niicee. Welcome to the 3 hundo club.
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Did you cut the dp to core out the cat, or were you able to get to it through the bellmouth. And, do you have boost spikes from the unequal diameter pipe causing exhaust to bounce around?
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330..... very nice. Car must have been spot on for 330! Ur fully bolted w/ L/A Intercooler, right?
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That dyno is ghettofabulous, much like your dp! Nice numbers.
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hmmm this could be a cheaper alternative until I can put some money together for the real thing!! EXCELLENT JOB!!
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Now I'm curious how it does compared to other catless DPs? CS DPs+TPs CP-E DPs SW DPs ATP DPs Garrett DPs Ebay DPs Others I can't remember DPs I gonna say close to them in gains. Only way to find out is put them on and dyno each one lol. Anyone wanna donate funds for this? HAHAHA doubtful.
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Man that is some truly awesome number gains on the dp. Congrats.
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