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Default Avoid rubbing - RX-8 + eibach 10mm spacer

I already rolled my rear fender, I got JBR rear camber arm

my camber up front = -1.1 degree
and my rear camber = -1.7 degree

I'm on H&R Coilover not slammed but more for a flush stanced (you can see picture in my car thread : Atomic - MazdaSpeed 3 2008 - The Black Beast). I have 235/40/r18 tire and With a offset of 42 at the final. Must i add more camber in the rear , must i increase the height of my suspension in the rear ...

I just want to know how I can avoid any rubbing. This time I just got rubbing on big valley on high speed everytime else I got no rubbing ...

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I found that grinding the inner rear bumper tab took care of all my rubbing when I was slammed on BCs.
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and your rear bumper stay in place ???
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and your rear bumper stay in place ???
Ohh yeah. Just grind all the way to the fastener not past it.
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After removing this tab and all redone the paint on my rear fender ... two days ago I take a bump on highway and I heard a little rub in the rear so yesterday I remove my rear Wheel and check ... and I see my paint in my rear fender paint has been remove a little the top section of my fender both side. So I remove my rear 10 mm spacer right now ... clean up these section and apply mazda paint pen. But I really want to drive my setup with 42 offset in the rear....

How I can procress to avoid this rub in the rear. When I redone the paint in the rear fender I fill the space between the fender and the body with a paint sealer to avoid anything enter there and create rust so I can't increase mu Rolling fender ... I speak with a body shop to cut the section where there is rubbing but he told me that will remove the solidity of my rear fender !?!?!? is it true ... just remove 5 to 6 inch of fender (just the section in the fender that be Rolling)

If somebody can help me with a better solution it will be very helpful
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I'm right now at -1.7 rear camber if I go -2.2 to be at the limit of the oem spec can I maybe avoid this rubbing in the rear ... is it a good difference and my wheel will maybe don't touch my rear fender like this ... I got JBR rear camber arm so I can go +/- 4 degree in camber.
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anybody ???
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We can't tell you the exact degree of camber you need to clear, just bump it up a little and see if it still rubs, every car and setup is different.
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Maybe get your fenders pulled if you don't want more negative camber.
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Maybe get your fenders pulled if you don't want more negative camber.
Do you know how to do it without damage my new paint fender ?
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First off, if you're using 10mm spacers on RX-8 wheels, your effective offset is +40, not +42.

That said, the best way to solve the problem is to ditch the spacers.
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I know its the easy way but nobody can help With their camber number on their own setup. I know i can solve this problem but i just dont want to take the easy way
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Ive been running the same setup minus the spacers for years with zero rubbing. Ditch the spacers or go to a 5mm. Id give you my specs but cars still winterized.
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Ive been running the same setup minus the spacers for years with zero rubbing. Ditch the spacers or go to a 5mm. Id give you my specs but cars still winterized.
Yeah I know with no spacer no rubbing ... I just want to try to fit everything and no rubbing
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Then add Camber or pull your fenders, I don't see what is so hard about this?
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Then add Camber or pull your fenders, I don't see what is so hard about this?
Do you know how to do it without damage my new paint fender ?
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Do you know how to do it without damage my new paint fender ?
Fender roller, heat gun.

Pay a shop to do it?
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If I have sealer in my rear fender can they pull it easily ? or the sealer will crack ?
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If I have sealer in my rear fender can they pull it easily ? or the sealer will crack ?
I have no clue what you're talking about.

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If I have sealer in my rear fender can they pull it easily ? or the sealer will crack ?
There is no definite answer to this until you do it...it might crack. If you dont want to remove the spacers this is the only other thing to do.
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I know its the easy way but nobody can help With their camber number on their own setup. I know i can solve this problem but i just dont want to take the easy way
I think you may have misread my post.

I said best. Not easiest.
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I think you may have misread my post.

I said best. Not easiest.
Why best can you explain ...
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Holly shit brah you must hais teh retards.
Roll the fucking fernders or ditch the spacers.
No other way around. Not even Jesus can give you another option.
Oh wait, you could also run 215 width tires. That might solve it. If you don't change tires than refer back to the sentence subsequent to the retards reference.
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Originally Posted by Tomas View Post
Holly shit brah you must hais teh retards.
Roll the fucking fernders or ditch the spacers.
No other way around. Not even Jesus can give you another option.
Oh wait, you could also run 215 width tires. That might solve it. If you don't change tires than refer back to the sentence subsequent to the retards reference.
I was getting to the point of saying the same thing. You must have some big balls......... Oh wait... My bad, are they still a sore subject? Tee hee hee hee!
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Originally Posted by Spec View Post
I have no clue what you're talking about.

Where are you from?
Pretty sure he is a Quebecer
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Originally Posted by Atomic41 View Post
Why best can you explain ...
OK. I'll indulge.

The spacers aren't giving you any handling advantage or added functiionality.

They are not needed to clear your brakes or your suspension.

It could even be argued that they are a detriment to your car's overall handling profile.

Why do you want to keep them?
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Originally Posted by kevin2.3 View Post
Pretty sure he is a Quebecer
So that means in a couple of months this will be slammed to the ground, with the rear wheels at a 45* angle.
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I was getting to the point of saying the same thing. You must have some big balls......... Oh wait... My bad, are they still a sore subject? Tee hee hee hee!
They actually recovered rather quickly thank you very much. In less than two days they were back to normal.

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The spacers aren't giving you any handling advantage or added functiionality.
Well I object to that assertion.
Absent detrimental consequences due to changes in offset such as bumpsteer, a wider track will get you faster through the turns.
Not that the OP is really using the spacers for that purpose.
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They actually recovered rather quickly thank you very much. In less than two days they were back to normal.



Well I object to that assertion.
Absent detrimental consequences due to changes in offset such as bumpsteer, a wider track will get you faster through the turns.
Not that the OP is really using the spacers for that purpose.

...but it wouldn't be "absent detrimental consequences" at all. You can't really widen the track with spacers without introducing the negatives (scrub radius changes, wheel rate changes, etc.).
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