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 Old 11-20-2009, 08:38 PM   #1
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Default VTA or recirculated bov or bpv

Curious question what the difference between vta and recirculate bov or bpv? What the pro/cons? I installed my hks and i recirculated instead of running vta. But i can barely hear the swoosshhh noise. Any input would be great !
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I am running a turbosmart 50/50. No stalling or backfiring. Runs great. People had said it would run worse than a BPV but i dont see it. Its loud enough and runs great. I also loved my forge BPV. I can not speak on full VTA but I am sure that it will run a little worse than stock since our cars are setup for a BPV
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As dima said, the 50/50 thing is okay, but full VTA will run like crap. Give your HKS a while to settle in. I switched my 50/50 dual port to a full bypass valve and it was WAY quieter for the first two weeks but as it has broken it, it's getting louder.

Keep it in recirc or get a 50/50 or people will think you are driving a twenty year old beater from all the backfiring at full VTA
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you from brooklyn? long island here!
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Originally Posted by Aetherfury View Post
As dima said, the 50/50 thing is okay, but full VTA will run like crap. Give your HKS a while to settle in. I switched my 50/50 dual port to a full bypass valve and it was WAY quieter for the first two weeks but as it has broken it, it's getting louder.

Keep it in recirc or get a 50/50 or people will think you are driving a twenty year old beater from all the backfiring at full VTA
I hope it get a little bit louder , if not imma switch to 50/50

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do u have an intake??? if u dont have an intake u wont hear the BPV. i have HKS and as soon as i added the intake i though it was loud as hell recirculated
 
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I have the same kit and keep it on full recirc. It runs great and is pretty loud by my standards but I am more of a subtle type person. Does the HKS even have a 50/50 option? I didn't think it did... My vote is keep it full recirc. Any louder and you'll be getting some unwanted attention by the po po. But if thats how you roll then go for it.
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this is a video with my HKS recirculated. does ur not sound like this????
only watch the first 45 seconds

 
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Wow sounds like some compressor surge in that video... Thats no good
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LOL thats not compressor surge. i have no clue what u are listening too. thats an open EWG dump pipe
 
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Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 View Post
this is a video with my HKS recirculated. does ur not sound like this????
only watch the first 45 seconds
Dude. That sounds AWESOME!
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quit showing off that big turbo boost BOV sound!! so jealous...
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Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 View Post
this is a video with my HKS recirculated. does ur not sound like this????
only watch the first 45 seconds

YouTube- Sound of Tial38mm EWG screamer pipe
my bpv does not sound like that , did you take your hks fin off and put on the recirculating tube or pipe that came with it . Cause that what i did to my bpv
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my bpv does not sound like that , did you take your hks fin off and put on the recirculating tube or pipe that came with it . Cause that what i did to my bpv
yes i'm recirculated, I put the metal tube piece on and have it routed back into the intake. Are you sure you hooked it up correctly
 
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there REALLY needs to be an Intake/BOV/BPV edu sticky
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use the big rubber hose that routed ur stock BPV into the intake. You might need to cut an inch or so off of it so it dont kink.
 
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bigger turbo + more boost = that specific bov sound of 18psiwhitems3
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I love 18psi's car. Its so fast
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Originally Posted by 18psiWhiteMS3 View Post
use the big rubber hose that routed ur stock BPV into the intake. You might need to cut an inch or so off of it so it dont kink.
when u installed the hks bpv did you take off the fins with a allen key then put the recirculated tube in? or is the fin still there?
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i run my hks recirc and it sounds like it does in 18psi's vid- not sure if my aluminum turbo inlet pipe helps amplify the sound or not.
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You remove the fin and replace it with the metal tube fitting
 
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Who has the Forge Motorsport Valve installed? I mean the one just replacing the OEM part.
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they all just replace the oem part...
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quick question... are these all vehicle specific? I heard that you need to buy something specifically for the 2010 ms3, like a spacer or something...
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It's your inlet that makes it quiter. My HKS in recirc was way more muted after installing the inlet.
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It's your inlet that makes it quiter. My HKS in recirc was way more muted after installing the inlet.
ohh okay , i thought it be louder but thanks
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you guys are not making any sense. The stock airbox muffles all the sound and u wont hear shit. When you add a inlet it will be so loud
 
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The spool is louder for sure. When I was added my first mod, CAI, the stock bpv was pretty audible. Later on, with inlet installed, I put back my stock BPV for a while. It was practically dead silent at low boost, and could hardly hear it at high boost. Not as loud as without inlet. I thought I've read plenty of posts about this with other people, that adding the inlet softens the bpv sound. It was true with me at least.
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fuk im getting my mind all twisted. Im thinking intake but writing inlet. My bad
 
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My hks recirculated is pretty quiet too but it may be because i have had it VTA for so long.
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I have the motorsport forge valve with a cp-e cai and cp-e inlet tube and it sounds pretty loud (not as loud as the video but pretty close).

I also was not aware that replacing the factory inlet tube with a performance version, it soften the sound. Too bad I did both the inlet and the cai at the same time so I can not compare. But with the cai and inlet with the stock bpv is also fairly loud. The forge unit double the sound.
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Here's what mine sounds like with the CP-E TIP and SRI (stock BPV). Way louder than what I expected. I'm thinking about putting the stock airbox back on.

6th gear, about 70% throttle.


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If you want loud get a Turbosmart hybrid and run it 50/50.
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Originally Posted by Intruder View Post
Here's what mine sounds like with the CP-E TIP and SRI (stock BPV). Way louder than what I expected. I'm thinking about putting the stock airbox back on.

6th gear, about 70% throttle.

YouTube - 2010 Mazdaspeed3 w/ TIP, SRI

Sorry for the shaky video.
I would quit boosting at 2250rpms in 6th gear if I were you. Unless you'd like to blow up your motor that is.

And if you want to go back to the stock airbox because the intake is "too loud", you probably shouldn't mod your car at all.
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Originally Posted by erod550 View Post
And if you want to go back to the stock airbox because the intake is "too loud", you probably shouldn't mod your car at all.
It's just a matter of preference. I already have 2 cars that make plenty of noise.
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just get the forge bpv everytime you shift your girl will laugh and minic the sound so its loud as hell with out the attention
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Don't want to get to off topic (but I am)... What do you mean by not boosting above 2250 rpm's in sixth gear?

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I would quit boosting at 2250rpms in 6th gear if I were you. Unless you'd like to blow up your motor that is.

And if you want to go back to the stock airbox because the intake is "too loud", you probably shouldn't mod your car at all.
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I believe he said AT 2250rpms not ABOVE 2250....I would tend to agree
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Originally Posted by MOVOVR View Post
I believe he said AT 2250rpms not ABOVE 2250....I would tend to agree
Gotcha, my mistake... totally agree with any boosted car.

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^ its bad? going WOT at 2250rpm in 6th gear?
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