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Brakes have bedded in a lot better now and the brake pressure is becoming easier to modulate. Probably a combination of laying down a layer of friction material and improved muscle memory from me. Heel Toeing is starting to come back to me on the street as well.

Still waiting on the PF01 wheels to arrive. Once I have those it will be time to cut loose at the track.
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New Wheels arrived. Fitment is closer than I thought it would be but that was one huge sigh of relief I just breathed.



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what et and width are the wheels?
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Tyres fitted and looking good. These wheels will never be this clean ever again.


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Tyres fitted and looking good. These wheels will never be this clean ever again.
Just wax them with some wheel wax now and then after every track day. They will be a lot easier to clean and they will age a lot better.
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First track day with the new brakes today. I made the mistake of thinking a set of XP8 pads in the front would help compensate for the brake bias. Instead I just got a set of brake pads that just don't bite all that well and felt meek and shit.

Once fully bedded in they did fine but next time I will use the XP10 and slap myself in the balls for ever second guessing them.

All that said, I still set a PB by over a second so definitely doing something right. I am putting most of that down to a new tune tho. The data shows this tune just walking away from the old one on the straights while braking performance is more or less unchanged.
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Fastest lap of the day.

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Nice driving, just release that death grip on the steering wheel.
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I love coming up against other hot hatches at track days. Mostly because it feels nice to drive straight past them.

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Another track day yesterday with the XP10 back in. I beat on these brakes like never before and they were amazing, 100% consistent every single lap.

The better heat management is noticeable too. They aren't absolutely roaring hot after a session like the oem ones were, they run so much cooler that the front tyre pressure rise is actually 1-2psi less as well.

Better pedal progression and release modulation makes trail braking and rotating the car on turn in even more controllable than before. This was my main concern as I was was worried any more forward bias might cause the car to push.
Stopping distances are maybe slightly better but it's mostly the extra consistency that breeds confidence that I am liking.
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Ongoing diary with these brakes:

1. The brake pad thickness is a bit shit. The OEM pads had about 50% more material and lasted longer than these do. 3 Track days and these are completely gone. Expensive on consumables and the replacement rotors make your eyes water. Hopefully they last longer to compensate.

2. The inner pad wears noticeably faster than the outer pad. Swap inner/outer to prolong pad life.

3. Once fully bedded in brake modulation is better than OEM. The rotors have a lot of machining marks that made them extremely grabby at first. They get better.

4. Pad changes are super easy compared to OEM. Just undo 2 bolts and it all comes off. It's not quite as nice as a genuine racing setup because you do need to remove the caliper, but it's not far off.
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Finally got the brake lines fully sorted today. New lines with a nice aluminium billet grommet. Much better than our hack job from the initial install

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You use kw coils for tracking ? How do you like them ? I've heard poor things about them for track purposes, I've been told they're far too soft to cope properly in track conditions. I'm currently on stock suspension, and only have less than a handful of laps of track time behind me so I'm a complete noob. But would rather buy one set up and one set up only
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You use kw coils for tracking ? How do you like them ? I've heard poor things about them for track purposes, I've been told they're far too soft to cope properly in track conditions. I'm currently on stock suspension, and only have less than a handful of laps of track time behind me so I'm a complete noob. But would rather buy one set up and one set up only
I can't speak for the V1's or V2's but I have V3's and they have enough adjust-ability to tune for anything up to full race tyres. I set them to soft mode for the street and hard mode for the track, best of both worlds.

Don't quote me on this but I have a feeling the V1's are tuned to match the V3's factory recommended specs anyway, which is basically what I use on the track only I go 1 click firmer in the rear. KW really know what they're doing, even a minor deviation from their suggested settings really screws up the balance.
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I can't speak for the V1's or V2's but I have V3's and they have enough adjust-ability to tune for anything up to full race tyres. I set them to soft mode for the street and hard mode for the track, best of both worlds.

Don't quote me on this but I have a feeling the V1's are tuned to match the V3's factory recommended specs anyway, which is basically what I use on the track only I go 1 click firmer in the rear. KW really know what they're doing, even a minor deviation from their suggested settings really screws up the balance.


I see. The v1's are definitely more in my price range (still have a boat load of parts to buy) I'll look into them some more. Appreciate the reply !
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I ordered some replacement discs for this kit recently.

The Alcon replacements are $1200AU JUST FOR THE RINGS.

But the good news is that Forza (Australian company) can fabricate a set of motorsport spec discs that will fit these hats for roughly half that price. It's still expensive but not all that different to the DBA5000 series Rotors that I was using before swapping for the Alcon Kit.

Will see how they go once they arrive. Should be a couple of weeks.
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YAY! Update! It's time for an update!

The Alcon Rotors that came with this kit are a street focused steel, they did fine at the racetrack as well but I heat damaged and wore them down enough to warrant replacing them.

Enter Forza, these are a motorsports grade steel so should last a bit longer than the Alcon ones did, with the added benefit of being HALF THE PRICE.



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Old one disassembled with the Rotor hat ready to bolt up to the new ones


Couldn't help but weigh them after assembly, for those playing along at home these are about 600g lighter than the Alcons were which makes them even lighter than the DBA5000 rotors I was using with the stock brake setup. Not bad considering they are 12mm larger in diameter and 3mm thicker.


Not sure i'm a fan of this kind of aggressive branding but whatever.


They look pretty cool, altho it's hard to compete with the presence that the Alcon rotor slot pattern has.


All done.


Been out to give them a quick run and bed the pads down as well. One thing i've noticed immediately is these ones are a lot more forgiving at the start, the Alcon ones had extremely coarse machining marks on the rotor surface that made them extremely abrasive at first and I didn't like that at all. These ones have a much smoother surface from the factory which makes them a lot less grabby.

It's the middle of summer here right now so will probably be a while before I get a chance to hit the racetrack with them, but i'll be back with the final report after i've done a track day or 2. The alcon slot pattern actually made a bit of a funny noise under hard braking so it will be interesting to see if these resolve that.
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Stage 2 kit from Corksport is out now. Looks like a pretty good option, altho I would still go with the Alcons for my purposes. Their page seems to imply that they will clear the standard wheels as well.

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