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Ordered some KW V3 coilovers that arrived today. They are replacing the Corksport coilovers I installed back in early 2015.

I'm not doing the install this time. R/T Tuning in PA is going to do the install and alignment. They did the alignment for my Corksport setup and did a great job.

The Corksports (no longer available, apparently) were pretty decent. I've been running with them one click from the stiffest setting at all four corners. Ride-height-wise, I didn't slam them, just played with ride-height until I found the sweet-spot for acceptable rebound/damping (which was maybe 1.5" lower than stock, more or less).

I have an install thread from back then, which kind of highlights my near-total lack of mechanical inclination. But they held up through a pounding on NJ's crappy roads, through very salty NJ winters, and through a lot of very high speed driving. So no complaints.

Anyway, the KW's are being installed in mid-May, unless something opens up sooner. I'll update the thread then. At that point, I figure I'll have a bit of work to do to dial them in - settings-wise.

If anybody has any thoughts/advice about these coilovers, I'd love to hear it.
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Ordered some KW V3 coilovers that arrived today. They are replacing the Corksport coilovers I installed back in early 2015.

I'm not doing the install this time. R/T Tuning in PA is going to do the install and alignment. They did the alignment for my Corksport setup and did a great job.

The Corksports (no longer available, apparently) were pretty decent. I've been running with them one click from the stiffest setting at all four corners. Ride-height-wise, I didn't slam them, just played with ride-height until I found the sweet-spot for acceptable rebound/damping (which was maybe 1.5" lower than stock, more or less).

I have an install thread from back then, which kind of highlights my near-total lack of mechanical inclination. But they held up through a pounding on NJ's crappy roads, through very salty NJ winters, and through a lot of very high speed driving. So no complaints.

Anyway, the KW's are being installed in mid-May, unless something opens up sooner. I'll update the thread then. At that point, I figure I'll have a bit of work to do to dial them in - settings-wise.

If anybody has any thoughts/advice about these coilovers, I'd love to hear it.
No experience with them but they are their top of the line offering. Let us know how they compare once installed.
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Very interested in your experience with them though they are a little rich for my wallet.
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how many miles on the corksport coils and what condition would you say theyre in? I'd definitely consider taking them off your hands.

Also, whats the update on the smoking situation? I'm assuming the cars good now and you plan to keep it if youre dropping money on V3s
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how many miles on the corksport coils and what condition would you say theyre in? I'd definitely consider taking them off your hands.

Also, whats the update on the smoking situation? I'm assuming the cars good now and you plan to keep it if youre dropping money on V3s
The CorkSport shocks are totally blown at the rear, and not a whole lot better in the front. I think they are even leaking a bit at the rear. The rear end is basically pogo-ing around, riding on the springs with little or no damping at this point. Not fun, and not safe. I'll be limping it to the shop in PA.

I've mostly avoided driving it the past month or so as I waited for my new car to arrive so I'd have something to drive while the MS3 is at the shop in PA. The new car arrived early last month (almost two months earlier than expected). So I ordered the KWV3s and made the appointment. I'm excited to see how the KW's work, although from my reading here, I expect some trial and error at first while I dial in the settings.

The replacement turbo is working well, and the exhaust smoking from the blown turbo has gone away completely. That all worked out well. So yeah, I'm hoping to keep the MS3 for another couple years, at least. The car is so much fun, it will be hard to ever let go.

I still haven't replaced the HPFP internals. I discussed that with the shop doing the coilover install and they are very familiar with it. So I might get them to do that while it's there. It would open the door to some easy bolt on power mods.

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No experience with them but they are their top of the line offering. Let us know how they compare once installed.
Will do. I'm excited to find out.

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Very interested in your experience with them though they are a little rich for my wallet.
To be honest, they are probably overkill for a 2011 MS3. I mean, parts and labor will probably be just under half the current value of the car. But I've had so much fun with this car that I figured fuck it; put a decent suspension in and keep the fun rolling for another couple years.

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Congratz!

I'll be interested in your experience. I just had my KWv2s installed, along with side motor mounts, poly bushings, adjustable endlinks, and sway bars.

BTW, make sure you get shorter end links up front, the mounting points are 1" lower than stock. I had to call whiteline to get the shorter endlink shaft or w/e it was called.

Just noticed you have the exact same wheels as me, size and all, though I did the Continental Extreme Sport 245/40/18 on mine.

So far, I love the setup, but I'm still breaking in and getting a little bit of clunking over large bumps. It already seems to be getting better, so I'm hoping it's just breaking in (Suspension and bushings)

Best of luck with your setup!
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Congratz!

I'll be interested in your experience. I just had my KWv2s installed, along with side motor mounts, poly bushings, adjustable endlinks, and sway bars.

BTW, make sure you get shorter end links up front, the mounting points are 1" lower than stock. I had to call whiteline to get the shorter endlink shaft or w/e it was called.

Just noticed you have the exact same wheels as me, size and all, though I did the Continental Extreme Sport 245/40/18 on mine.

So far, I love the setup, but I'm still breaking in and getting a little bit of clunking over large bumps. It already seems to be getting better, so I'm hoping it's just breaking in (Suspension and bushings)

Best of luck with your setup!
Thanks for the tip about the shorter end-links. I'm forwarding that over to the folks doing the install, in case they aren't aware.

How're all the handling mods working for you? Should be pretty tight.
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@Carskick;

Just to follow up. I realized you have the Gen1 MS3 (I didn't think the V2s would work for the Gen2). So it could be that the lower mounting point isn't an issue w/the V3s. I passed along the info to the shop; they will sort it out.

Curious where the clunking you heard was coming from. I had clunking after I installed the Corksport coilovers. The front would clank a bit (getting the mount tightened more at the top mostly cured it there). The rears also clunked a bit, and again, tightening the mount at the top seemed to mostly cure it. I stripped the driver's side bolts trying to get it tighter. So the shop will have fun removing those.

Now I have a lot of noise, which could be from any number of things. I let the shop know to notify me about anything badly worn they find and I'll probably get them to replace it. Would be nice to have the car buttoned up tight and quiet.
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Where did you buy them from and did you shop around? Haven't bought anything for the car in a while and these are at the top of my list.
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Where did you buy them from and did you shop around? Haven't bought anything for the car in a while and these are at the top of my list.
They were hard to find. Couldn't find them in stock from the usual sources, and the shop I'm using couldn't find them through their sources. Everything was back-ordered.

I eventually found them in stock on Amazon. But there were only 3 left in stock.
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I just found the gen1 part number on amazon too. But I checked KW's website, and the price listed there is about $300 less than what the seller on amazon is selling it for. Did you attempt to order directly from KW?
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I just found the gen1 part number on amazon too. But I checked KW's website, and the price listed there is about $300 less than what the seller on amazon is selling it for. Did you attempt to order directly from KW?
I believe I checked KW and they were not in stock. I don't recall the price difference, but I do know that other vendors that sold the KWs but didn't have them in stock had lower prices than on Amazon (this is for V3s for my Gen2 - although for all I know, it's the same part for Gen1 and Gen2).

According to the shop I'm using, they had tried ordering KWV3s for another customer, and after having been back-ordered forever (I forgot how long, but months), they gave up and installed another brand.

So I ate the higher cost and ordered them off Amazon. I was a little concerned about the condition, but I opened the box and everything seemed like original packaging and all.
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I believe I checked KW and they were not in stock. I don't recall the price difference, but I do know that other vendors that sold the KWs but didn't have them in stock had lower prices than on Amazon (this is for V3s for my Gen2 - although for all I know, it's the same part for Gen1 and Gen2).

According to the shop I'm using, they had tried ordering KWV3s for another customer, and after having been back-ordered forever (I forgot how long, but months), they gave up and installed another brand.

So I ate the higher cost and ordered them off Amazon. I was a little concerned about the condition, but I opened the box and everything seemed like original packaging and all.
Yeah definitely different part numbers for gen1/gen2.

I actually just called KW directly and asked about availability. They said the coilovers would need to be built in their Germany factory, taking about 4-6 weeks, but the dude said if I placed the order with him, it would be drop-shipped from Germany and bypass KW in the US, with free shipping. Total was the amount on the website for the gen1 part, which was $2005.99. I just went for it, since I don't mind waiting. I also confirmed with him that the current promotion on the KW homepage is still valid ($350 mail-in rebate for V3's) and he said "yes definitely". So even though I need to wait a month, I'm pumped that I'm getting some V3's for $1700.

Let us know how the install goes at R/T. I actually went to that shop years ago for a MSF dyno day
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@Carskick;

Just to follow up. I realized you have the Gen1 MS3 (I didn't think the V2s would work for the Gen2). So it could be that the lower mounting point isn't an issue w/the V3s. I passed along the info to the shop; they will sort it out.

Curious where the clunking you heard was coming from. I had clunking after I installed the Corksport coilovers. The front would clank a bit (getting the mount tightened more at the top mostly cured it there). The rears also clunked a bit, and again, tightening the mount at the top seemed to mostly cure it. I stripped the driver's side bolts trying to get it tighter. So the shop will have fun removing those.

Now I have a lot of noise, which could be from any number of things. I let the shop know to notify me about anything badly worn they find and I'll probably get them to replace it. Would be nice to have the car buttoned up tight and quiet.
Not sure if the V2s work on the Gen 2 or not. Curious if the mounting points are different than yours. Gen 1 & 2 share the same chassis, though there are some suspension differences.

After driving the car for a couple of weeks, it was back at the shop getting tweaks (No extra charge). The rear was making noise, but was fixed by them tightening top hads. They greased the springs, which helped, but I still get some spring clunk if I got fast enough on a major bump. I've heard this is common with KWs, but their greasing did help. We also turned the rebound settings up from 10 to 15, and maxed out the JBR rear sway bar to reduce understeer. Last, we added a Corksport Lower Tie Rod.

I've only had it back since yesterday, but so far, the car feels epic! No understeer, perfect balance, and surprisingly comfortable for what it is.

I have an unrelated issue with radial pull. Since this car was new, I've had about 6 different sets of tires, and 3 sets developed radial pull after rears were rotated forward. I'm hoping the new suspension will help prevent this, but I'm going to put the tires back where they started, and never rotate again. Instead, I'm just going to replace the fronts more often, as radial pull is obnoxious. What I'm calling radial pull is the car goes straight or pulls slightly one way, but give it gas, and it pulls the other direction. Switching front tires reverses it.

But otherwise, I'm loving the combination of the suspension upgrades.

@802MS3 $1700 is a great price on the v3s. I think I paid around $1440 on the V2s. I got them through Summit, and they were also drop shipped direct from Germany. Took about a month.
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2009 Mazdaspeed 3 Sport (Original Owner) - 95k miles on original Motor & Turbo and counting
Current Performance Mods: APv3 Freektune 93 & E-30 | JBR 3.0 SRI | ETS TMIC | SpeedDaddy TP | AT HPFP | Damond Triple Mounted | Southbend S2 Endurance Clutch/Fly | Stoptech Slotted Rotors | EBC RedStuff Pads | Enkei PF01 18x8.5 +48 | Continental EC Sport 245/40R18 | KWv2 Coilovers | Whiteline LCA Bushings, Anti-Lift, & Bump Steer | Whiteline Endlinks | JBR .125 FSB & RSB w/billet bushings/mounts | CS Lower Tie Bar | JBR TMIC Red Boost Tubes | DM OCC w/VTA | JBR Shifter Bushings
Stereo Mods: Pioneer AVH4100NEX | Phoenix Gold 6.5" Comps Front | Focal 6.54 Coax Rears | Polk 12" in Trunk Floor Enclosure | PPI 4x125W amp driving Fronts & Sub
Other Mods: FIAMM 72112 Low Note Horn along side stock
Mods Awaitting Install: Redline Leather Center Armrest & Handbrake Boot
Future Mods: Injector Seals | Built Block & BNR S3v2 if ZZB
Removed Mods: JBR 70A RMM | Koni STR.T Orange Shocks
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