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I installed a JBR OCC a few months back, roughly 4000 miles ago. I got the kit with a check valve, but apparently the check valve had been installed backwards in the fittings before it came to me. I installed it according to the directions. So the IM was likely pressurizing the OCC and occ lines up until the PCV valve.

After roughly 4k miles I tried to drain the OCC, and not a single drop came out. I then investigated and found the problem with the check valve. So basically the CC was not being ventilated pretty for the past few months. Anyways, my question is, was this bad for the motor? If so, how bad?
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I installed a JBR OCC a few months back, roughly 4000 miles ago. I got the kit with a check valve, but apparently the check valve had been installed backwards in the fittings before it came to me. I installed it according to the directions. So the IM was likely pressurizing the OCC and occ lines up until the PCV valve.

After roughly 4k miles I tried to drain the OCC, and not a single drop came out. I then investigated and found the problem with the check valve. So basically the CC was not being ventilated pretty for the past few months. Anyways, my question is, was this bad for the motor? If so, how bad?
I doubt it's good but it's not terrible. You just made it so you valve cover was venting all the pressure in the crankcase so you might have some residue in the intake.
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Switch it properly, and then drive. Should have honestly ran like shit Mine did when I flipped em on a car.
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the valve cover barely vents any pressure at all. you're probably new enough to not have a lot of blow by yet, but in the long haul, it would have blown out your rear main seal.
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the valve cover barely vents any pressure at all. you're probably new enough to not have a lot of blow by yet, but in the long haul, it would have blown out your rear main seal.
Took the ms3 out for a grocery trip today. Within the first few minutes I noticed the clutch felt a little funny. Hard to describe exactly but a little more squishy and less precise. On the way to the store I did a 4th gear pull and the clutch was slipping around 4k in 4th gear. I shat bricks and did a couple more 4th gear pulls to confirm it was slipping. The car had been parked facing downhill for 3-4 days, and usually it doesn't sit that long before I take it out.

The car only has 17k miles and I don't beat the shit out of it. I DO live in a very hilly area though with basically no flat ground, and because of this I hit red lights that are on hills a lot. At first I thought maybe I had been careless with the clutch and slipped it too much, but the more I think about it the more I realize I baby it.

I am now concerned that the rear main seal is leaking from the OCC check valve that was installed incorrectly, which prevented the CC from ventilating for roughly 4k miles. Are there any relatively simple tests I can do to check the health of the rear main seal? Any advice would be appreciated.

Pretty bummed about this because I just got laid off from my job and I have to hoard the rest of my money.
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I thiis there oil on the ground?
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@StayBroke; Nope, no oil underneath.

Additional information, the slipping only lasted for about 300-400 RPM and then came back down and gripped. Roughly from 3900-4300 RPM.

Also, my car isn't making very much power compared to most, due to the shitty cali 91 in my area. VD at 1.01 CF puts me at roughly 260whp and 302 wtq.
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Well keep a eye out if you think its the rear main leaking. But I think your fine.
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There was some sort of gasket-y substance between the bell housing and block on the 2010 we did a trans swap for, so I'm not sure if you're guaranteed to see oil at that seam. I would think the easiest method to check for oil would be to pull the starter off and dip a pipe cleaner inside that orifice to the bottom of the bell housing. There will be plenty of clutch dust, but you'll be able to tell if it's wet or not.
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Thanks, I would appreciate that. I'm going to talk to one of my friends that always help me wrench on the car and see if we can get some time together this weekend. My knowledge of motors is limited but grows every time I install something. So we might, or might not need your help.
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There was some sort of gasket-y substance between the bell housing and block on the 2010 we did a trans swap for, so I'm not sure if you're guaranteed to see oil at that seam. I would think the easiest method to check for oil would be to pull the starter off and dip a pipe cleaner inside that orifice to the bottom of the bell housing. There will be plenty of clutch dust, but you'll be able to tell if it's wet or not.
I don't recall any gasket like substance between the engine and the trans. There was a sealant between the bell housing and the gearbox though, that we found when we were trying to take the trans apart.
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I don't recall any gasket like substance between the engine and the trans. There was a sealant between the bell housing and the gearbox though, that we found when we were trying to take the trans apart.
That's possible, I just remember in my mind's eye some sort of yellow film around the perimeter of the bell housing that was too consistent to be grime. Dunno... either way I think popping the starter off is an easy / clean way to check for rear main seal leakage.

Just don't lose that $30 piece of foam gasket that keeps debris out.
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