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 Old 07-17-2013, 09:01 PM   #1
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Default Introducing the CANBus Triple!



Some of you have been following my progress over the last year. Today I'm happy to announce the Developer program for the CANBus Triple!



The CANBus Triple connects to the CAN Bus in your vehicle, and makes it easy to augment the data to add new functionality, datalog, etc. Eventually we could even reprogram parts of your vehicle like your ECU (This is how the COBB AP works).

Right now, it's built to watch for sensor data and display it on the red LCD display on the Gen2 dashboard. It features connections to the steering wheel so that combinations of buttons can control the display. All this is awesome, but I think the coolest functionality is yet to come!

Developer units are intended for people with soldering and programming background who want to get started today.

I have 40 built and tested, but in the process of building cases our laser cutter died and we're waiting on a new laser tube. As I complete the cases and harnesses more stock will become available. The stock on the site is live so if they are in stock you're good to go!

Code is hosted on Github. Right now the web site holds info for hardwiring the harness to your Gen2 and info to get you started programming the hardware. It's pretty rough right now, but the site will continue to evolve. Check it out here: CANBus Triple - The car hacking platform

What does the future hold? I have no idea! But, my plans are this. Get all the developers interested in trying the CANBus Triple units asap to hack on and give me feedback on the code, info for the site etc. Once these 40 units are gone I can say I probably will NOT be building anymore myself. I've been meeting with electronics assembly companies and circuit board factories here in Michigan and I hope to have them build them for me, if demand is there.

Kickstarter is my next stop. Electronics are all about quantity, so I'll have to get a big order to keep the prices low for everyone. Hopefully over then next few months we can really make some great functionality and show everyone what the platform is capable of!

I'm also planning on working on an Android app to connect to the CANBus Triple. This is a bit off in the future once other parts of the system mature. But it would be really useful!

So that's it. I'm excited, I hope everyone else is also. It's been a lot of work and I can't wait to see what everyone has to add to the platform.

One last thing, I've not done compatibility testing with older versions of browsers like IE 8 on the site. It's probably going to look weird or not work. Try to use current versions of firefox or Chrome for now.

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Very cool. I can't wait for the pnp version to drop. I'll be grabbing it when you do the kickstarter campaign.

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Happy you could get this done man! Any word on the PNP harness yet?
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Very cool. I can't wait for the pnp version to drop. I'll be grabbing it when you do the kickstarter campaign.

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Happy you could get this done man! Any word on the PNP harness yet?
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Awesome bro. I can't wait until the plug and play version hits the shelf or kick starter.
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The developer models say for those comfortable with soldering and programming. What programming will be required to get started? I have no issues with soldering.
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Welp, I pulled the trigger. My coding skills are a little rusty, should find a job that's not just QA..... Site said only 12, now 11, left, they really moving that fast?
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Amazing, been watching this forever, this was about the third thread I read when I Joined Msf!

Can't wait for the plug and play units for us dummy's!
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Does this work with non-tech package?
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@etx; Where's the GenJuan love????
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Great job on the release, but I too am still holding out for the PNP. I hope it comes this year and not some time in the distant future!!!
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Sweet, ordered mine and can't wait to start programming it. I have a few good ideas for the car. Thanks for releasing the hardware!
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Oh this is tempting. I've been wanting to do something like this for a while but haven't had the time.

Edit: Purchased. Now to find time to code....maybe I'll just do it at work :P
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So tempted to jump on this but really would rather have a pnp one, soldering isn't an issue it is more the hacking up of factory wires.
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Unfortunately I'm going to have to hold out for the pnp instead of being a developer as I had hoped. Just not enoguh time right now.
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The developer models say for those comfortable with soldering and programming. What programming will be required to get started? I have no issues with soldering.
Well, you don't have to program it. You can just flash the code as we update things. You'll have to download the arduino ide and the code from github, load it up and just hit upload while the CBT is connected via USB.

Eventually I plan on having easier ways for people to update the code without arduino. The chrome extension would be able to check the site for new versions and update for you.
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Ordered. I will get it to work in a Gen1.
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Order placed.

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Excellent choice going with the chrome app and angularjs. I did the exact same thing for a medical device startup a few months ago.
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And the fun begins! I'm holding out until this thing is polished to perfection but I will be following this with everyone's updates to the device. And an android app would be stellar! Well done.
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Ordered. I will get it to work in a Gen1.
Awesome! Honestly I just haven't tried yet as all my energy is focused on getting the hardware out there.

I do know the PIDs are the same for the display, so it should be just a matter of wiring it up properly. Thanks for taking on the challenge!


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Does this work with non-tech package?
Yep, but the steering wheel buttons are different I believe. I think they are cruise control buttons instead of navi buttons. I wouldn't be surprised if the signals are the same, but the wires probably run to the BCM instead of up to the navi area. And, the non-tech red display has more characters (I believe) so you can display more. Bonus!


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Excellent choice going with the chrome app and angularjs. I did the exact same thing for a medical device startup a few months ago.
Thanks! I'm loving angularjs. The Canb.us is running on Nodejs with angular on the front end. It actually makes web dev fun again.

The Chrome app is perfect, as it will be easier for people to jump in and see how it works. And it's cross platform naturally.

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Yep, but the steering wheel buttons are different I believe. I think they are cruise control buttons instead of navi buttons. I wouldn't be surprised if the signals are the same, but the wires probably run to the BCM instead of up to the navi area. And, the non-tech red display has more characters (I believe) so you can display more. Bonus!
I'll be installing it on a non-tech so we'll find out.
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Holy shit, there are two left.

I don't know arduino but if I did I would be on this. I'm going to have to wait for the kickstarter. Damn and blast.
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Thanks! I'm loving angularjs. The Canb.us is running on Nodejs with angular on the front end. It actually makes web dev fun again.

The Chrome app is perfect, as it will be easier for people to jump in and see how it works. And it's cross platform naturally.
I haven't gotten around to trying out nodejs server-side yet. Are you using any additional server-side frameworks on top of node? I've heard some good things about expressj .

Also, have you tried out coffeescript?

With python being near and dear to my heart, coffeescript was a must for me. Javascript's inheritance and all around verbosity made the bare code too ugly for my taste.
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Holy shit, there are two left.

I don't know arduino but if I did I would be on this. I'm going to have to wait for the kickstarter. Damn and blast.
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will definitely be dumping a bit of money on the kickstarter. Id get the dev kit if I had the time.

get the kickstarter page up asap.
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I'll be installing it on a non-tech so we'll find out.
I am installing on a non-tech Pu also. Atleast I'm not alone. Can't wait to start tinkering.
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Ordered, got the second to last one. Can't wait to start hacking
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Looking forward to the Kickstarter campaign. I'm not quite at the level you are probably looking for to take advantage of the developer kits, but I'm absolutely ready to get on the first run of plug-n-play units when they are ready.

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I haven't gotten around to trying out nodejs server-side yet. Are you using any additional server-side frameworks on top of node? I've heard some good things about expressj .

Also, have you tried out coffeescript?

With python being near and dear to my heart, coffeescript was a must for me. Javascript's inheritance and all around verbosity made the bare code too ugly for my taste.
Yeah it's running on Express! It's a nice framework. Actually, Express extends Connect and Connect was a bit of inspiration for the way the CBT Firmware Middleware pattern works!

Also, I love CoffeeScript! I don't use it as much as I'd like to.
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For all you developers if anyone is looking into making it work on gen1 i got ideas im sure you have already thought of them but im gona post anyway.

The two things i personally would love to see is being able to display the info on the far left of the lcd such as mpgs and so forth after a aftermarket HU install. Also keep the info on the far right side of the screen, and then use the middle section to display gauge info, and have a steering wheel button combo to switch between PIDs.

If it could do what is said above i would snatch one in a heart beat. Between that and a cpe triple pod you could monitor all important data and keep all the stock functionality of the LCD besides the radio info, but no need for that with aftermarket HU
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Speed6 love? Lol. If I had the time I could probably figure it out...but that's a rare thing for me anymore these days.

Either way, congrats on this OP, that's actually pretty bad ass what you did here

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This will not work on the Speed6. The display is not on the canbus.
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This will not work on the Speed6. The display is not on the canbus.
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Someone else made something called the GoodBox that did something similar. I don't know much about it but I was made for the 6 and rx8 I believe.

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Dude. You have a Cobb AP? You GOTTA send us some logs! Once it's connected you should be able to see all the packets it's sending. At very least we could trick it into thinking it's been 'Unmarried' to a particular vehicle.
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Do we know how the AP reflashes the car? I'm sorry if I missed it but I think only cobb, the dealers, etc. know how to do that. IIRC there was the piasini and ecutek tunes which could do it too, as well as that box-o-tune whose name I forget.

If you smart brainy guys can figure out how to use this thing to reflash the car's ecu it's gonna make my wiener feel all funny.
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Glad to see your product progressing @etx; I cannot wait to see a PnP version and some EUD!
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Is the little 4 Inch color navigation screen / b/w board computer screen on the CAN bus? Therefore, is a middleware for these screen types possible?
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In for open source tuning and kickstarter. Awesome work man!
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