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New Product RE-RELEASE! JBR TRU - 3.0 and 3.5” Wide Path Intake Systems!! Details: The New JBR TRU-3.0 & 3.5” Wide Path Full Intake Systems are the only True 3” intake systems that extend from the MAF housing all the way to the transition at the turbo. Currently, all one piece metal intakes that are available from our competitors are 2.87” or 3.37"and all the other aluminum intakes that include a separate billet MAF housing start out at 3” but then quickly neck down to 2.87”. Our one piece design eliminates the need for unnecessary couplers and the joining of multiple sections that increase turbulence and friction which ultimately leads to reduced airflow. The thick, 5-ply, wire reinforced high temperature silicone construction is far superior at insulating the intake air from extreme engine temperatures. This translates in to lower boost air temperatures and more horsepower that no other aluminum intake can accomplish. http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...dePath30OE.JPG Every TRU-3.0 & 3.5" MAF housing has been machined from 6061-T6 to tolerances of +/-.001 and include a factory style air straightener for the most accurate signal to the MAF sensor. The air straightener is integrated in to the wall of the housing eliminating any reduction in ID like those that use honeycomb straighteners. There’s also no way for the straighener to come loose and be sucked in to the turbo like those that use pressed in blades. Our MAF housings are the lightest in the industry weighing in at only 9.1-9.8oz. The lighter housing significantly reduces heat soak, sheds heat quicker which lowers intake temperatures creating more power. Each MAF housing is beautifully anodized for a smooth, long lasting finish resistant to corrosion, even when subjected to the harshest environmental conditions. http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...ath30OE_04.JPG http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...ath30OE_05.JPG http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...ath30OE_06.JPG All Tru Wide Path Intakes now include a 3.25” or 3.75” Dry-Flow air filter. JBR Dry Flow air filters flow 200% more air than the factory filter while providing superior engine protection. It uses both depth loading, capable of removing extremely fine particles (down to < 0.1 micron), and structural screen wire to enhance airflow capabilities. This design results in a performance air filter capable of increasing horsepower and torque! The three-dimensional synthetic filtering medium is washable and requires no oiling for years of trouble free service. http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...ath30OE_08.JPG The Wide Path Full Intake system is designed to be run in recirc mode but, includes a plug for easy conversion to non-recir mode. Includes:
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Perfect timing, I was looking into upgrading to a 3" intake today. I'll be picking up one of these soon! Good stuff Jamie! |
Out of interest, is the old wide path maf housing made of the same material? |
You guys never cease to amaze!! |
Still no love for GT turbo 3" inlet. Please make one! |
I believe this is what I was sent just recently since I had waited for a redesign. Looks awesome, is there any improvement in fitment around the battery/ecu? |
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I'm excited to buy this. @Lex; I'll be purchasing a top up map once I get this and an EBCS installed. |
Ordered! Can't wait to install! |
Son of a b&#^@. I just ordered a WP 3" from RPM yesterday. Never even saw this was offered. |
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GJ @jbarone; It was worth the wait to get the new revision!!! Thanks! |
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Jamie can truly say that this product, along with everything else on his car was track tested, as he did a great job @ Mid-Ohio on Monday. Even got to work with Mazda Factory Driver and SpeedSource P2 Driver Tom Long..........Spec MIata is on the horizon! |
I like that you grooved the MAF housing on the ends. Was having a battle with keeping the filter on the older MAF housing for a while. |
@jbarone; What size is the inlet on the new Tru 3.5 WP? Would love to get this intake for my upcoming BNR :D |
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For what it's worth I've instqlled the previous 3.5 silicone WP on the new BNR as well with minimal problems. |
I have always had JBR intakes, TOP NOTCH PARTS, when i went BNR i went HTP... and have had a leak since then where the intake meets the turbo IDK if i received the wrong coupler but it fits... i love the one piece intakes, i ordered a new and stronger coupler from ebay if that doesnt solve it, i will be selling my HTP and getting this. |
Must I change my CPE CAI to this ... or the gain will be minimal ... CAI vs Shortram ... CAI doesn't have the advantage over a shortram system ??? @jbarone; |
No it doesn't have any advantage. Go with any SRI, it's better hands down. TAPPPPPin |
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The silicon is different as well. |
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And yes, according to the JBR site these intakes can be paired with GT turbos. Looks like I will finally move to a 3" intake, and I'll try to hack the CS air box to make all work together :) |
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Is the new MAF housing compatible with the previous silicone 3" intakes? And is there any reason to upgrade? I take it there is not any huge difference, but this one sure looks nice. |
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2. The ECU needs to be relocated/shifted. This is a 100% failure at the visual inspections done during the smog tests This is also the reason why I have a CAI box (among others), and I will try to hack the hell out of it and make it fit somehow, as is now or using a different filter (shape/dimension) for the intake. They don't care what I have in that intake box: it may be a panel filter, a cone filter, a squirrel. Of course I can find "understanding" people for a "small attention", if you understand what I mean, but there are also crews doing random inspections on the road and those can't be convinced. So I don't want to risk having my car towed to some scrap yard 300 miles away from home in the middle of a vacation just because I wanted to cruise around at legal speeds with a whale penis intake. If it wasn't all this I would have gotten a 3+" intake a long time ago. Quote:
However, I'm not sure how much of a difference this would make in real life. Once you move from a stockish intake to a 3", true 3" or 2.85-2.87 the approximately 0.2" difference in diameter is huge and makes the differential pressure drop quite a bit, helping the turbo to make the same boost spooling slower this having a significant effect on the BATs. |
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And yes, we're seeing a noticeable difference in performance and with the tuning too. @mituc; well put. -Jamie |
I bit the bullet and ordered. I can't wait to see the differences as well as what I need to fabricate to pair this with the CS air box. I have a feeling that everything is going to be great on the intake side (less the airbox hacking which may need a new top and has nothing to do with the quality of the actual parts). |
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bonus season is near Thanks |
I can't imagine true 3.5" versus the old 3.37 or whatever it was would make a lot of difference for smaller turbos like the bnr as it will run out of puff. Maybe high fueling e85 guys will benefit but is there really that much more flow available from the bnr? |
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As he says, "It fits the new BNR, @Mike@Stratified; has confirmed that it fits. It's tight but it does fit" Either the 3" or the 3.5" will fit, but you must order the OEM Turbo Inlet option (~2.25"). The BNR turbo inlet is about 2.5" so it just has to be stretched. The 3" or 3.5" option only refers to the size of the MAF housing. |
Can't see it on the webpage but I assume that the new intakes (just like the old ones) come with a "mounting clamp" that we are supposed to secure to the stock mounting location on the side of the engine? This will not work on the MS6 with a BNR as the BNR is a bit wider than the k04 and pushes the intake out toward the driver side -- as pictured here, I used the mounting clamp on the filter and zip tied the intake to the bottom of the fuse box. This works but I cannot run a bigger filter, I used to run an AEM 7" dryflow, now it is no go. :( |
The MAF calibration of the TRU 3.5" intake has been added HERE. Thanks for all the orders for these new intakes as well. They have flown off the shelves and we're back to making more. Only a few left. -Jamie |
My mechanic guy said i waste my money to change my cpe cai to the full 3" intake because my stock turbo can't take more air that he do right now and my cpe cai is already giving way to much ... for the K04 What you think about this ??? |
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http://stratifiedauto.com/blog/a-tec...turbocharging/ |
So let's go 3.5" with a small battery box ... or it's overkill for my little K04 ? |
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My new intake was just delivered to my front door. Can't wait to get home! |
Somebody try a 51R battery in Canada ... I just want to know if the 51R battery can tough our cold winter -30 to sometimes -40. Because maybe I wanna try 51R battery tray with a 3.5'' True intake to have the best intake possible to compare to my CPE CAI right now and see how my speed3 will answer to that modification. Thanks for your help P.S. Do you have recommendation for a model of 51R that better than other ? |
Relocate the battery to the trunk Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk 4 |
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You are local to me so hit me up if you need a quality replacement. The company I work is a Crown Battery Industrial distributor and I'm the parts manager. [emoji6] |
We ship a lot of battery boxes to Canada. The 51R batteries we use in our shop cars are no name 600 CCA batteries and we've never had a problem. Paid about $110 US a piece for them. I would assume a block heater is essential in climates that dip that low. |
So i already have block heater. So if i pick a maybe 500 at least CCA 51r battery i will ok for sure to start the car without Any problem in a cold climate ? Envoyé de mon HTC One X en utilisant Tapatalk |
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Yikes -40 I need to invest in a second pair of testicles |
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If I go 3.5" TRU full ... can I just change the place of the ECU and past in on the fuse box ??? |
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Starting at step 11 of the instructions for our old aluminum intakes will show you how to do just that! Thanks, Jamie |
Is it possible to have some impression from user that drive with JBR Tru intake 3 or 3.5" versus their older setup SRI or CAI. How you like it, driving impression, power, sound, etc |
Because the intake diameter is larger the intake should be quieter, or at least have a more diminished sound of that suction sound. This is good or not so good depending on what kind of person you are. Personally I am pleased with the sound of my current intake setup, but on Monday... BUT ON MOONNDAAAYYY..... we will fit the holy mighty whale penis onto the car and I'll tell you more. http://s3.postimg.org/wjdup7nwf/IMAG1803.jpghttp://s3.postimg.org/y14cxvyyn/IMAG1804.jpghttp://s3.postimg.org/cfzaaa27z/IMAG1805.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/63k50fz5r/IMAG1806.jpghttp://s3.postimg.org/rna7xinr3/IMAG1807.jpg First impressions after putting everything together on the floor: - the shape of the whole intake shows a lot of attention to detail and care for its shape AND for preserving the 3" diameter; - a very pleasant surprise was that in the package there's a clamp with a mounting ear that you can put there to use the factory mounting tab that's near the fuel pump; - I wish the hose for the EBCS bleeding was a bit longer. Most of the people who purchase the 4" turbo coupler version will have an aftermarket EBCS which will not be in the factory location; - the air filter has about the same base diameter as the K&N filter I'm using now with the CObb intake and CS CAI Box. So there's a good chance that I will be able to keep the CAI Box on the car since the MAF housing allows for a decent amount of adjusting; - basically in the package you will find the maximum number of clamps that you may need; - the silicone is very stiff and should not have too much play while it will still be able to vibrate a bit to absorb any vibrations from the engine bay/turbo/whatever. But it's stiff enough that you can beat your kids with it and still fit it on the car no problem after that. - A few years ago when I opened the box with the Autotech internals I first thought the Edge guys played a joke on me and sent me some collection die cast car. Then I found the internals in and they were looking like some jewels. Well, the MAF housing was wrapped in a piece of hard paper but when my fingers finally came in contact with it I had the same impression. This MAF housing looks simply beautiful. |
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keep me update please ! |
I also haven't installed my Tru-3.0" OEM Turbo intake yet. But playing with it in the garage, I agree with mituc with the quality of the product. The MAF is gorgeous with a nice knurl to the edges to have something for the silicone and clamp to grab onto. And speaking of clamps, JBR provided 3 T-bolt clamps for the connections on the turbo and the MAF. After having 3 different intakes on my car and 2 different TIP's, this is the first one that has sent T-bolt clamps. Another nice touch. |
Here's the JBR Tru 3" intake fitted with all OEM parts: OEM battery tray, OEM ECU covers, ...and the CorkSport Air Box for the Cobb SRI! I threw the battery tray in place with the ECU still bolted to it. The tray is a bit kinked but I could screw the bolts nuts in. WIN! http://s18.postimg.org/6grwrcf79/IMAG1814.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/40q3dhx4l/IMAG1815.jpg I thought I was lucky, so I king of forced my luck with the tools I had. the CS air box seemed to be almost perfectly aligned with the MAF location. We added a rubber grommet (a strut mount from a Smart ForFour) which happened to have the right inner diameter. The idea was to prevent the MAF housing from vibrating against the air box. If it's also sealing it, even better. Epic WIN! http://s18.postimg.org/4ssrcp1bp/IMAG1816.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/3k9h4syr9/IMAG1817.jpg After some time of screwing around with the air box and the air filter we test fit it. Mega WIN!! I was feeling like drinking a beer, even though I drink like 2-3 beers a year. http://s18.postimg.org/teeogu9dh/IMAG1818.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/il768bs39/IMAG1819.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/m8mxee0ad/IMAG1820.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/jq18dpek5/IMAG1821.jpg http://s18.postimg.org/vughuorg5/IMAG1822.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/dlebe4bud/IMAG1823.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/s21ksp1bp/IMAG1824.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/5rdpsq41h/IMAG1825.jpg Time to throw the battery in and put everything together! Galactic WIN! http://s18.postimg.org/5h679dpf9/IMAG1826.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/478dubvn9/IMAG1827.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/6r8m268l1/IMAG1828.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/n8htnu4tx/IMAG1834.jpg Job done with all parts. ...out of superlatives... no, wait: Romanian WIN! http://s18.postimg.org/44oi7hrzp/IMAG1835.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/588mjgcmt/IMAG1836.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/f83izcnw5/IMAG1837.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/y33v3idbp/IMAG1838.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/g1kq5pjat/IMAG1839.jpg The intake seems to be a bit kinked after the PCV feed but not by much. The air box is pushing the MAF housing against the softer part of that silicone tube, but when I will work in that area again I know what I have do to. Also, the air filter has a larger diameter in the smaller cone area so the top of the air box is also pushing that a bit down. But that's rubber and will kink just fine. The Stratified MAF cal is -3.1% - +1.6% in the range I logged, just like my old MAF cal for the Cobb SRI. i didn't push the car today for a WOT log because the laptop battery was almost done. Thank you @Lex and @Mike@Stratified for your work on this. |
will my car be ok w/ the 3.0 and internals w/ a cobb OTS stage 1 tune, while i'm waiting on a custom tune. |
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Dammit I thought this was the aluminum intake release. Still haven't decided if I'm going to go with the 3.0 or 3.5. It will be mated with a gt3071r. John at Tork convinced me to go iwg even tho I was originally going to get the ewg kit. Power wise im only shooting for 350-360 on pump gas. Do you think the 3.5 will cause more boost creep issues? I don't plan to port the wg. I'm leaning towards the 3.5 just for future purposes if I want to build the motor. |
I made 350whp on a Cobb SRI with the GTX3071. So IMHO the Tru3" should be good for at least that considering that your gen2 will be able to work with a bit more timing advance on the same gas quality. I think the boost creep issues are generated more by the exhaust side, not intake. However, keep in mind that 340-350whp on pump gas is close to the limit of what the stock internals can take in therms of heat. I'm telling you that because I managed to hurt my motor this spring (also raised the rev limit to 7k which I think may be the main culprit) and now with the lower compression it won't go past 335-340whp. So I recommend using a WMI kit and aim for even more (360-370whp without raising the maximum torque/load values in the mid range, but keeping the torque at similar values as much as possible in the rev range, like past 5.5k where it really matters for making power). |
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This will also save me from having to buy a new battery box. I can spend the extra money on a meth kit. |
ok, got on my 3.0 WP this weekend. everything went well EXCEPT i couldn;t figure out where to place the mounting bracket (step 20 in your install guide) on the TIP part of the intake. otherwise, nice piece of kit, makes the car sound like a jet airplane now when the turbo spools up and very nice HP improvement w/ my @stratified tune http://i59.tinypic.com/javrqs.jpg |
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Here's a better picture of where the mounting clamp goes. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...eecd23183a.jpg |
Oh, I was thinking it bolted to some nut on the firewall, now I have a idea where it goes. Thanks |
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