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JBR 03-15-2014 10:32 AM

New Product Release - JBR Tru-Torsion.250 Competition Rear Sway Bar
 
Details:
The JBR Tru-Torsion Competition Rear Sway Bar is for the serious auto-x and road course enthusiast. This is the same bar being used in the JBR Sponsored #85 All Out Auto Motorsports Mazdaspeed 3 running in the IMSA Continental Tire Sportscar Challenge Series

Constructed out of 1.25"OD x .250 wall 4130 Chromoly tubing with thick solid steel arms. The JBR True Torsion Rear Sway Bar is TIG welded inside and out then the ends are capped. Powder coated for ultimate corrosion resistance. The 3-way adjustability allows you to fine tune the handling for the street, auto-x track or road course

http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...Torsion250.JPG

The JBR Tru-Torsion.250 Sway Bar Kit Includes:
  • 1 Tru-Torsion.250 Rear Sway Bar
  • 2 Tru-Torsion Billet Brackets with Grease Fittings
  • 2 New Polyurethane Bushings
  • 4 Class 8.8 mounting bolts bolts
  • Installation Grease
  • Installation instructions are available in our support section
  • Shipping is free in the US & our Hassle Free Lifetime Warranty is included

http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...ion250._01.JPG

Specifications Simulating 1" of body roll:
Stock Sway Bar setting:
MAZDASPEED 3 is 479 lbs/in
MAZDA 3 & 5 is 228 lbs/in

JBR Tru-Torsion 3-Way Adjustable Sway Bar Settings
Stiff setting is 1371 lbs/in
Stiffer Setting is 1596 lbs/in
Stiffest Setting is 2011 lbs/in

http://www.jamesbaroneracing.com/sho...ion250._02.JPG

Stretcher 03-15-2014 01:14 PM

All I could think was 'holy shit' when I saw the thread title; excitement overload! Any pricing for this behemoth?

Edit:
Product Link
$295 for the kit, including Billet Brackets!

kolosok17 03-15-2014 01:24 PM

Wtf, want!

econman 03-15-2014 03:51 PM

You are on a roll lately!

Agent_Orange 03-15-2014 03:57 PM

Found my first suspension mod.

That thing is sexy! :wank:

IamJamen 03-15-2014 04:18 PM

Same specs as the one @ custom made for himself and has been running for years now.

Looks like a nice piece.

maisonvi 03-15-2014 04:22 PM

Yeah this is the same I made myself. I have never used the stiffest setting, I'm too scared. lol

Looks awesome Jamie!

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neganox 03-15-2014 04:45 PM

inb4 stiffness / thats what she said jokes. This looks aces man. Nice job as usual.

JBR 03-15-2014 05:34 PM

This bar and the .125 will pair very nicely with the front double adjustable sway bar being released early this summer.

neganox 03-15-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 2497437)
This bar and the .125 will pair very nicely wirh the front double adjustable sway bar being released early this summer. <----You see what I did there?

Oh snap.

[R]usty 03-15-2014 07:40 PM

Looks like I'm selling my old jbr sway bar for this monster. Awesome release jamie!

razor3232 03-16-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 2497437)
This bar and the .125 will pair very nicely with the front double adjustable sway bar being released early this summer.

Well I just found my birthday present!

daafisch 03-16-2014 07:20 PM

Damn you Mr Barone, damn you.

exentix 03-16-2014 07:55 PM

good lawd.

va7kpt 03-16-2014 07:59 PM

Damn that's hot! I love my JBR RSB! :yup:

LatinKraze 03-16-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 2497437)
This bar and the .125 will pair very nicely with the front double adjustable sway bar being released early this summer.

About time. Been itching for that fsb

ash4390 03-17-2014 03:07 PM

Tempting! Is this a worthwhile upgrade over my 6 month old JBR RSB?

macdiesel 03-17-2014 06:54 PM

Holy wow! That bar bracket combo is awesome. Too bad I just picked up a bar, but those brackets are calling my name.


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King Scumbag 03-17-2014 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 2497437)
This bar and the .125 will pair very nicely with the front double adjustable sway bar being released early this summer.

FSB, FSB, FSB!!! Oh and this thing is solid @jbarone; good stuff!

MOCO MS3 03-18-2014 11:38 AM

I held this piece and the bushings @ Sebring.......well made and solid...curious to see how Michael and John do with the upgraded JBR parts on the Speed 3 @ Lime Rock.....I expect a great deal of imporvement!!!

Certainly will get this set up for ours and do some testing @ Mid-Ohio this summer!

eppopipe 03-19-2014 04:52 AM

Honestly though, Best sway design out there.

Chief_Wiggum 03-19-2014 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOCO MS3 (Post 2501062)
I held this piece and the bushings @ Sebring.......well made and solid...curious to see how Michael and John do with the upgraded JBR parts on the Speed 3 @ Lime Rock.....I expect a great deal of imporvement!!!

Certainly will get this set up for ours and do some testing @ Mid-Ohio this summer!

The fact that these parts will be used on 'no kidding' race cars is pretty awesome; "race tested" is not just a catchy slogan with JBR.

MOCO MS3 03-19-2014 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum (Post 2502281)
The fact that these parts will be used on 'no kidding' race cars is pretty awesome; "race tested" is not just a catchy slogan with JBR.


Correct, that will show how well the product is built and to see how well the design holds up in a 2.5 hour race!!!! They will be running the JBR Trilogy MM as well!

JBR 03-19-2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOCO MS3 (Post 2502327)
Correct, that will show how well the product is built and to see how well the design holds up in a 2.5 hour race!!!! They will be running the JBR Trilogy MM as well!

I have confidence in all our parts running on the #85 withstanding the punishment of endurance racing but, my ass will still be puckered up the whole time. This is going to be a great season for the All Out Auto Team as well as JBR.

gmoney542 03-20-2014 07:44 PM

This thing is a monster! I want it!

Scare Dem 03-22-2014 09:14 AM

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JBR 03-22-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Scare Dem (Post 2507265)

BOOM!!

NoRegrets 03-23-2014 03:45 AM

looks like it's a good thing that i held off on buying a sway bar kit

Mauro_Penguin 03-23-2014 05:15 AM

@Scare Dem; is that a side by side with the factory bar?

valveking35 03-23-2014 05:34 AM

Looks like my CS bar of a month is going to find a new home.

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Scare Dem 03-23-2014 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mauro_Penguin (Post 2508165)
@Scare Dem; is that a side by side with the factory bar?

Yes sir.

itzjustme407 03-23-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 2507294)
BOOM!!

Do you think this is over kill for a daily driver that probably wont ever get tracked but driven hard?

NoRegrets 03-23-2014 04:07 PM

Yes, it would be overkill for an DD that doesn't see track use.
But that is why the OP stated, "The JBR Tru-Torsion Competition Rear Sway Bar is for the serious auto-x and road course enthusiast."

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Originally Posted by itzjustme407 (Post 2508481)
Do you think this is over kill for a daily driver that probably wont ever get tracked but driven hard?


Puddin15 03-24-2014 08:14 PM

To those that have this installed, how does the car feel? My only concern is that this bar will cause excessive oversteer even in the softest setting. I did notice that the spring rates for this bar are very similar to the Hotchkiss bar, and I've had great experience with Hotchkiss on my past track car.

Keep it up JBR, you make some of the best products for the MS3. Those brackets are a piece or art. Oh and any plans to make an air box for your intake to keep temps down?

MOCO MS3 03-28-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scare Dem (Post 2507265)

Looks good, this is our raffle prize winner from the Sebring Corral....best moeny he spent and since it was charity, he can write off!

NoRegrets 03-28-2014 06:22 PM

@Scare Dem;
Are you running this with factory endlinks?
How does the car feel?

Scare Dem 03-28-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NoRegrets (Post 2516948)
@Scare Dem;
Are you running this with factory endlinks?
How does the car feel?

Factory endlink is what is being ran.

It's on the first setting which is already 3 times stiffer than stock. 5 words can describe the feeling........Cornering is flat as shit.

Evan9999 06-11-2014 09:19 AM

I just installed this badass mofo on Saturday (used to have the old .125 JBR bar). I daily drive my car and it sees track/autocross use. So far, I can definitely feel a big improvement and I'm only on the least stiff hole. The car corners flatter and I can feel the increased grip on corner exit. I can't wait until I can really test it out at the Toledo Autocross event this Sunday.

MOCO MS3 06-11-2014 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan9999 (Post 2614123)
I just installed this badass mofo on Saturday (used to have the old .125 JBR bar). I daily drive my car and it sees track/autocross use. So far, I can definitely feel a big improvement and I'm only on the least stiff hole. The car corners flatter and I can feel the increased grip on corner exit. I can't wait until I can really test it out at the Toledo Autocross event this Sunday.



Evan you running slicks? Also are you going to change the setting to medium or full stiff?

sho 06-11-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin15 (Post 2510590)
To those that have this installed, how does the car feel? My only concern is that this bar will cause excessive oversteer even in the softest setting. I did notice that the spring rates for this bar are very similar to the Hotchkiss bar, and I've had great experience with Hotchkiss on my past track car.

Keep it up JBR, you make some of the best products for the MS3. Those brackets are a piece or art. Oh and any plans to make an air box for your intake to keep temps down?

I wouldn't worry about excessive oversteer on the street unless you're driving way faster than you should be. I have an RSB that is a bit stiffer than this one, and I've daily driven it for the past 75k miles at 2030lb/in on the rear bar for that time.

The back end will kick out at autox on throttle lift, while turning hard... but even during aggressive driving on the street, it's nothing crazy as long as you stay on throttle.

Puddin15 06-11-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho (Post 2614492)
I wouldn't worry about excessive oversteer on the street unless you're driving way faster than you should be. I have an RSB that is a bit stiffer than this one, and I've daily driven it for the past 75k miles at 2030lb/in on the rear bar for that time.

The back end will kick out at autox on throttle lift, while turning hard... but even during aggressive driving on the street, it's nothing crazy as long as you stay on throttle.

I'm asking in regards to handling on a road course, not on the street. This bar is a bit overkill for someone that doesn't track their car.

Open track days is this Friday and I'm on the stock RSB, so I imagine I will be picking one of these up very soon.

Evan9999 06-12-2014 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOCO MS3 (Post 2614156)
Evan you running slicks? Also are you going to change the setting to medium or full stiff?

Yep, I'm running those Hoosier slicks. I'm going to keep the bar on the least stiff setting for a little bit. I might change it after the Toledo autocross. The course is normally pretty fast at Toledo so I don't want too much oversteer. I would like to get the new JBR front sway bar once it's released and I'll probably use the stiffest setting on the rear sway bar with the front bar on there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin15 (Post 2614527)
I'm asking in regards to handling on a road course, not on the street. This bar is a bit overkill for someone that doesn't track their car.

Open track days is this Friday and I'm on the stock RSB, so I imagine I will be picking one of these up very soon.

I agree, this bar is definitely overkill if you don't do any track/autocross. I'm hoping to do a track day at Mid-Ohio in a month or 2. So I'll be able to comment on the bar's track performance after.

MOCO MS3 09-08-2014 10:09 AM

Well finally had the opportunity to put the Fat Boy through it's paces this weekend @ Mid-Ohio at a PCA event where I was instructing. All I can say is that if you track your car, this bar is a MUST! Mid-Ohio is a very technical track, with high speed turns, elevation changes and this bar handled everything that the track trew at it.

I placed the bar in the middle setting for my sessions and it did not disappoint, actually exceeded my expectations. The car felt like it was on rails, throughout every section on the track! Coming thru turn #1 and heading into the Chicane ( turns #2 & #3 ), the car was firmly planted and rotated like a champ. Heading into the Keyhole, again, the car rotated perfectly and set me me up for the long back straight, where speeds hit between 130-140.........settng up for the entrance to Madness (esses), the car remained settled and balanced coming up and over, heading for the Honda Bridge and Thunder Valley.


Again, the car rotated perfectly, throughout the entire course and with every lap, I had more confidence in pushing the car, lap, after lap, session, after session. I would highly recommend this bar for anyone who spends any significant time auto-xing or particpates in HPDE's! If it can handle Mid-Ohio, it can handle any Road or Auto-X Course!

Well worth the money and stood up to a lot of hard driving!

Puddin15 09-08-2014 12:29 PM

Thanks for the review MOCO MS3, this solidifies my decision. Are you running the stock end links with this bar?

MOCO MS3 09-08-2014 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin15 (Post 2697706)
Thanks for the review MOCO MS3, this solidifies my decision. Are you running the stock end links with this bar?

I am running Tri-Points Adjustable End links. Tri Point has been sold, but I know the person that designed them, he may build more.


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