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JBR 03-11-2014 02:24 PM

New Product Release - JBR Tru-Torsion Billet Sway Bar Brackets and Bushings
 
Details:
All aftermarket large diameter sway bars that include yellow zinc plated brakets occasionally suffer from broken sway bar brackets, even our own! Well, we now have the solution for owners of all 1.25” sway bars regardless of manufacturer.

These brackets are guaranteed to be trouble free for a lifetime. Constructed out of 6061-T6 aluminum with a tough anodized finish. Equipped with grease fittings to allow for easy maintenance of the included 80a durometer bushings.

The JBR Tru-Torsion brackets also eliminate the clunking often heard with worn bushings and brackets.

Theses are the last set of sway bar brackets and bushings you will ever need.

The JBR Tru-Torsion Sway Bar Bracket Kit Includes:
  • 2 Tru-Torsion Billet Brackets with Grease Fittings
  • 2 New Polyurethane Bushings
  • 4 Class 8.8 mounting bolts bolts
  • Installation Grease
  • Lifetime Warranty
  • Online Installation Instructions

Available online now!

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[R]usty 03-11-2014 02:26 PM

Badass Jamie!

manila 03-11-2014 02:27 PM

Damn, those are beautiful!

mzr0818 03-11-2014 02:35 PM

Nice

shamie 03-11-2014 02:35 PM

Will we have to sourse out own bolts? Your photos don't show the sway bar collars installed. I assume we still use them or are these wider and take up the space on you RSB?

breakfstincluded 03-11-2014 02:40 PM

wow those look beeeffyy

swsmailman 03-11-2014 02:45 PM

Those are nice! May have to look at these at some point to go ahead and beef up the ones that you send with your RSB.

tjamison 03-11-2014 02:48 PM

I'd buy these just to stare at them! Fancy set of paperweights, Jamie.

JBR 03-11-2014 02:51 PM

They are also now an option when buying our sway bars. Save $10.00 on them too.

dereeek 03-11-2014 02:51 PM

Ordered.

Just got home and my RSB is clunking.

JeffroMS3 03-11-2014 02:53 PM

They look awesome! Definitely getting these when I get me a sway bar from you.

JgamB 03-11-2014 03:08 PM

Order placed, I never did trust those little straps. Do you provide bolts or do I need to source my own? If so, what size please?

Nevermind - bolts *are* included per Jamie's Facebook post.

JBR 03-11-2014 03:16 PM

Yes OP updated to reflect included mounting hardware.

You still use collars if applicable with these.

Johnasaurus 03-11-2014 03:25 PM

this is completely badass!

Monotonous ONE 03-11-2014 03:37 PM

I just came

Helrich 03-11-2014 03:40 PM

Yeah yeah, now lets see the dyno charts.

jdm_mica 03-11-2014 03:47 PM

Will get these in due time. Very nice product

JBR 03-11-2014 04:15 PM

You all asked for these so we got them done!

SparkySparks 03-11-2014 04:48 PM

Do want, now to come up with the extra cash to pick them up. Any option for getting the bushing in an 88a to match the rest of my mounts from you?

macdiesel 03-11-2014 06:42 PM

Those brackets look amazing!

Domino81 03-11-2014 07:16 PM

I could kiss you... no, you're getting tongue the next time I see you.

Spec 03-11-2014 08:11 PM

They're so pretty, I can think of another use for the 1.250" Dia. Now all I need to do is figure out how to get KY in a grease gun.

I haven't broke mine, I'm sure as hell going to try.

udntknw 03-11-2014 08:28 PM

I just went from 6 to midnight when the pictures loaded... I assume they'll work on the front end, or rear only?

Just tapa it in.

jtday 03-11-2014 08:37 PM

Those are NICE! I was just reading a thread about broken mounts the other day.

O.T. Looking forward to my shift weight. Unbelievably quick response on my order. Thank you.

hgunther 03-11-2014 08:40 PM

Does this work on the ms6?

JBR 03-11-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hgunther (Post 2491366)
Does this work on the ms6?

If you have a 1.25" bar and the aftermarket brackets fit these should too. They are designed to work in the same envelope as the aftermarket brackets they are replacing.

alextheguineapig 03-11-2014 08:54 PM

Is this something you would recommend as a preventative measure for people who purchased your rear sway bar? Or is this the sort of thing you wait to replace?

Domino81 03-11-2014 08:59 PM

1.25" for those of us who may not be running a JBR (because I'm not - purchased the car with another already installed) is 31.75mm

Quote:

Originally Posted by raigekijin (Post 2491394)
Is this something you would recommend as a preventative measure for people who purchased your rear sway bar? Or is this the sort of thing you wait to replace?

I'd recommend to anyone that has an upgraded rear sway bar to foregoe the standard issue pressed steel bracket and get this. Hell, I know mine is beginning to crack.

JgamB 03-11-2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raigekijin (Post 2491394)
Is this something you would recommend as a preventative measure for people who purchased your rear sway bar? Or is this the sort of thing you wait to replace?

This is peace of mind that a notoriously sketchy part is getting replaced with a bomb shelter.

If you like aggressive cornering, I would add these to your short list.

Crarrs 03-11-2014 11:41 PM

Are these only necessary for people who refuse to do proper maintenance on the existing Energy Suspension version? Within 3.5 years of having an aftermarket sway bar, I've failed 1 stock endlink, 1 Moog endlink, and 1 CS sway bar; all on the same set of bushings and clamps. With a lot of autocrossing and aggressive driving.

These seem like overkill.

JgamB 03-12-2014 08:40 AM

Ask @Ray Danger 2020; and @ImGryssLOL; what they were doing to break theirs.

or @lilred; @shifter48; @Nliiitend1; @galens47; etc etc.

Not an isolated issue, and overkill looks good to me.

Miah34 03-12-2014 09:40 AM

Jamie, is there any way you can pm me so i can order a few things from you. I am new to the forums and do not have enough posts to pm people. Thank you in advance!

Chief_Wiggum 03-12-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miah34 (Post 2491961)
Jamie, is there any way you can pm me so i can order a few things from you. I am new to the forums and do not have enough posts to pm people. Thank you in advance!

James Barone Racing, Custom Fabrication

alextheguineapig 03-12-2014 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miah34 (Post 2491961)
Jamie, is there any way you can pm me so i can order a few things from you. I am new to the forums and do not have enough posts to pm people. Thank you in advance!

Order from Edge or Jaime's website directly. There are links to both his site in this section, and Edge's in their section. If you can't PM, I think Jaime's website allows for questions via email.

I don't do any auto-x and I just installed the RSB last fall. I didn't realize that they were prone to failure. I'll maybe take a look under there and order these. Thanks for the answers.

galens47 03-12-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JgamB (Post 2491846)
Ask ___ what they were doing to break theirs.

Not an isolated issue, and overkill looks good to me.

Thanks Jaime excellent upgrade. Too bad I already sold my RSB.

:(

Nliiitend1 03-12-2014 12:42 PM

Looks like a good option over the billet Hotchkis brackets (which I recently bought to use on my solid 28 mm bar) for guys with 1.25" bars.

Maybe you should consider sourcing a few different bushing sizes for those that run differently sized bars to make it easy for them to upgrade to these as well.

:fing02:

Kyle Undefined 03-12-2014 01:07 PM

Will pick these up when I order my RSB from you!

JBR 03-12-2014 01:10 PM

We have or can get most any size bushing to work with these brackets. We even have the bushings for the MS3 OEM front and rear bars.

-Jamie

Ray Danger 2020 03-12-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JgamB (Post 2491846)
Ask @Ray Danger 2020; and @ImGryssLOL; what they were doing to break theirs.

or @lilred; @shifter48; @Nliiitend1; @galens47; etc etc.

Not an isolated issue, and overkill looks good to me.

Not gonna lie, I didnt even realize it was broken until I got under my car because I noticed I had an exhaust leak where my UR muffler section bolts up. So I couldnt even tell you hiw long it had been broken for. All I can say is that my daily commute has alot of weird slope transitions. Like turning onto an uphill while going up another uphill road...if that makes sense.

Mauro_Penguin 03-13-2014 08:46 AM

These are damn sexy, I will buy these soon.
However, this is not the suspension part I was hoping you'd release.
@jbarone; BAD MONKEY!!! :spank:

JBR 03-13-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauro_Penguin (Post 2493729)
These are damn sexy, I will buy these soon.
However, this is not the suspension part I was hoping you'd release.
@jbarone; BAD MONKEY!!! :spank:

Like a front swaybar perhaps?

Mauro_Penguin 03-13-2014 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbarone (Post 2493800)
Like a front swaybar perhaps?

I was thinking more like toe arms for the back?
But a front sway bar you say?
God I hate you right now.
You make me want to cry and get horny all at once.

JBR 03-13-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauro_Penguin (Post 2493807)
I was thinking more like toe arms for the back?
But a front sway bar you say?
God I hate you right now.
You make me want to cry and get horny all at once.

You will have both by mid summer.

Mauro_Penguin 03-13-2014 09:38 AM

OMG!!!!! YOU HAZ PM!!!!!

fundream 03-14-2014 07:56 AM

It's ok for front say bar too ?

dereeek 03-14-2014 10:24 AM

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Well that was fast, I love your shipping method.

These things are solid.

Thanks, Jamie.

Spec 03-14-2014 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dereeek (Post 2495598)
Well that was fast, I love your shipping method.

These things are solid.

Thanks, Jamie.

What is that yellow tool in the right of the pic?

Helrich 03-14-2014 11:29 AM

Looks like a fancy box cutter.

dereeek 03-14-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spec (Post 2495694)
What is that yellow tool in the right of the pic?

Just a box cutter I stole from work.

JgamB 03-14-2014 04:47 PM

These inspire just a wee bit more confidence than the old straps...

http://i.imgur.com/cM0q3P1l.jpg

dereeek 03-14-2014 05:39 PM

Just finished putting them on, and drove a couple miles. They seem to hold up strong.

VRM_MS3 03-15-2014 02:20 AM

ordered!

Mauro_Penguin 03-15-2014 06:46 AM

Any of you guys that put these on already, have you noticed any difference in response from your RSB? I'm wondering how much flex there was in the old mounts under travel/load.

ImGryssLOL 03-15-2014 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JgamB (Post 2491846)
Ask @Ray Danger 2020; and @ImGryssLOL; what they were doing to break theirs.

or @lilred; @shifter48; @Nliiitend1; @galens47; etc etc.

Not an isolated issue, and overkill looks good to me.

Standard asshole driving and lots of auto-x did this. I have 28,xxx on the car and the rsb went on with maybe 1000 miles on it.

JgamB 03-15-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauro_Penguin (Post 2496973)
Any of you guys that put these on already, have you noticed any difference in response from your RSB? I'm wondering how much flex there was in the old mounts under travel/load.

Nothing more than the new part placebo effect. This is more like fuel pump internals for your RSB - you'd rather know the straps aren't going to break.

(Other than pitching the car around vigorously after install, I haven't done any formal "testing")

Mauro_Penguin 03-15-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JgamB (Post 2497262)
Nothing more than the new part placebo effect. This is more like fuel pump internals for your RSB - you'd rather know the straps aren't going to break.

(Other than pitching the car around vigorously after install, I haven't done any formal "testing")

I figured as much, I am still curious....

My brackets have not broken, but they were beginning to bend slightly. So I went to a hardware store, matched up the size of the bolts and got some heavy stainless steel washers to support the brackets. It was kind of a pain, because you can't see how well centered it is. In the end I put all 4 bolts in without the washers, centered the bar, removed one bolt at a time, placed washer and loctite on them, and then torqued them down. Probably overkill but the original ones seemed sort of flimsy....

That and then some fresh grease made it sturdy and responsive again.

Spooling 03-16-2014 07:01 PM

need a sway bar for the speed6 :(

MOCO MS3 03-16-2014 07:23 PM

Had these in my hands yesterday and you can't go wrong! Very excited about this product! Going to Mid-Ohio and test them along with the New RSB

Raider 03-18-2014 02:17 PM

For those who got a MS3 over 7 years ago and scored the Hotchkis when they came out, these will fit!
Hotchkis Sport Suspension
Quote:

Lightweight, durable 1-1/4" (32mm) hollow Front Sway Bar
The Hotchkis brackets were pretty beefy (ooooh meaty) but last year. one of my rear split apart. Although their replacement was handled in less than a minute and received in 24 hours, my trust of their durability has me checking frequently. So this is on my list of needs from @jbarone;.

ANITIX87 04-20-2014 06:53 PM

And now my car is yet another reason why @jbarone; is at the top of this game. I didn't pay attention to this thread and I had my bushings (from one of the older JBR bars - ordered in 2012) fail this weekend. I assumed I could avoid the upgrade and be fine, because I didn't heed the results of the R&D JBR always does.

@jbarone; I am NOT bitching, nor citing a fault with your product - this failure was NOT a defect with your design - I drive like a hooligan and the roads here are atrocious. I just wanted to point out how ahead-of-the-curve you guys always are with updated products and I wanted to encourage people who are on the fence about your products versus someone else's that they shouldn't hesitate to go with you.

So, everyone: there's a reason every single aftermarket part on my car comes from JBR (except AP and HPFP Internals, which they don't make...yet)

TIS

ANITIX87 04-24-2014 08:33 AM

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Just an update, since I was under the car today. Bracket completely shattered, it wasn't a dropped bolt as I originally thought. Upgraded brackets were purchased and installed, car feels great again.

As always, nothing wrong with the JBR components, just the sourced brackets which are notoriously weak.

Attachment 157165

TIS

Tapatalkative

illegal shishkebab 06-15-2014 10:37 AM

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Am I part of the club??

F@#%k it


Sent from driver seat, bro!

Teal 08-27-2014 06:05 AM

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Had a killer clunk from the rear after the horrible winter - finally figured out it was from the RSB so decided to upgrade the bar and couldn't pass up these brackets. For the chunks of material you get that are simple and look well made - the price is right... and should functionally help (a little more of that torsion is going to pull down rather and yank on the rear of the subframe).

They were on a couple weeks of "backorder" and then JBR forgot about my order. Once they saw my email asking if they had shipped - they fixed the mistake and sent them & the bar via 2day shipping right away - thanks for looking out.

I am initially in the middle setting for the bar and it is a huge improvement in balance compared to stock (as expected). The bit of street testing I could do shows the most improvements after mid-corner and during exit. Entry seems to still be a bit pushy.

But... this morning I heard the clunk again... I think from the left rear end link (still stock, 70,000miles)... so I am putting in my order now for JBR's MOOG end links w/ zerk fittings so this setup will last until the car is sold and then long after as long as they are kept greased. When I install these I will definately be moving the bar to the full stiff setting. :unitedstates:

zenit 09-14-2014 07:50 PM

Wow.

I'm a little late to the party here, mostly because I went awol from the forum for a few months.

I don't want to jerk my own chain here- but I find myself wonder if this is related to the JBR release or just a coincidence:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...ml#post2380281

blake0521 01-22-2015 02:15 PM

Anyone have issues with these brackets? My bar just failed with these brackets. Maybe the brackets are stronger then the bar? Kinda bummed out :/

Raider 01-22-2015 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake0521 (Post 2797273)
Anyone have issues with these brackets? My bar just failed with these brackets. Maybe the brackets are stronger then the bar? Kinda bummed out :/

How the heck? Pics?

blake0521 01-22-2015 02:19 PM

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I know :(

blake0521 01-22-2015 02:21 PM

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And another pic of it

Raider 01-22-2015 02:24 PM

That's ugly. What did JBR say when you contacted them?

Glad I live in rust free FL, thing looks pretty gnarly!

blake0521 01-22-2015 02:26 PM

It hasent even been on there for a full year. It's only seen snow twice. But some girl picked up and said she will show her boss and see what they will do. I will be shocked if they don't warrenty it. I have heard great things and most of my car is jbr including my front mount and crash bar so I bet they will fix it for me no problem.

Tyhackman15 01-22-2015 02:28 PM

Holy rust. Did it fail as a result of an event (i.e. you nailed a pot hole, or a person) or just under normal driving?

Raider 01-22-2015 02:30 PM

I am sure you know this, but if your local company modifies it at all, kiss your warranty goodbye man.

blake0521 01-22-2015 02:32 PM

My buddy at work (sell cars for Hyundai) changed my oil for me today while I was selling a car and then came and grabbed me to show me how "loose" my end link was then he realized that the weld failed and that the end link was fine. So thank god it did not fail mid corner or I would have been off the road! Car has never been to a track it is just my dd so I was shocked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 2797288)
I am sure you know this, but if your local company modifies it at all, kiss your warranty goodbye man.

I installed it and then never touched it again except to grease it. It was found by a tech at my work while doing multi point inspection :(

Etipp98 01-22-2015 02:39 PM

Good thing brock can't see this.

JBR 01-22-2015 02:56 PM

We spoke with the customer, and received pictures for us to look over. It's clear that this is result of a manufacturing error. One of 3 welds that secure the arm to the bar was not performed, weakening the connection causing it to break.

It's certainly covered under warranty and a new rear bar is being sent to the customer today along with a return label for the defective sway bar so we can inspect it.

blake0521 01-22-2015 02:58 PM

Just got a call from him direct. Fastest response time every! Bar is already in the mail too! He said it looks like a weld defect and that I was the first one that has ever broken one hahaha. Very very impressed with the level of customer service!

Thanks again @jabarone; !

Raider 01-22-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etipp98 (Post 2797297)
Good thing brock can't see this.

Yeah, would not want him to see that a replacement was sent and return label given without a problem. Would crush his spirits and force him to down more Molson while watching hockey while soaking in a bathtub of maple syrup.

macdiesel 01-22-2015 03:06 PM

Is that the guy on Facebook jumping on jbr when he can?

Glad a replacement bar is on the way. Great to know jbr stands behind their product


Sent from my iPhone using sausage fingers

Raider 01-22-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdiesel (Post 2797319)
Is that the guy on Facebook jumping on jbr when he can?

Glad a replacement bar is on the way. Great to know jbr stands behind their product


Sent from my iPhone using sausage fingers


If that's the case, I hope his attitude reverses.

zenit 01-22-2015 05:40 PM

Three welds? How does that work? Two sides and two arms, even numbers...

JBR 01-22-2015 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenit (Post 2797424)
Three welds? How does that work? Two sides and two arms, even numbers...

Yes 3 for each arm.

One surrounding the inside of the arm to the pipe, one surrounding the outside of the arm to the pipe, the third secures the cap. Total of 6. The weld surrounding the outside of the arm was missed.

RACER_X 01-22-2015 06:43 PM

That's service!

blake0521 01-22-2015 08:07 PM

hell ya it is! and he took the time to call me back personally but not only that, he called back quick! Most manufactures would try to make an excuse and give you the run around to try and not have to replace it but he just took care of it no hassle at all. Super humble guy and AMAZING customer service. For sure happy most of my car wears JBR product. New intake and short shift assembly for sure coming from him. Good work!

Mauro_Penguin 01-22-2015 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 2797314)
watching hockey while soaking in a bathtub of maple syrup.

That actually sounds like a delicious gay porn begging to start!

When I read the first failure post saying the brackets are involved I was so confused. I installed these on my car a few weeks ago, and the brackets are so beefy and clamp on so tight that the bar has very little movement through the bushing. Took them apart and re greased everything, damn thing is still mega tight with minimal movement!

ms3matt 01-23-2015 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake0521 (Post 2797528)
hell ya it is! and he took the time to call me back personally but not only that, he called back quick! Most manufactures would try to make an excuse and give you the run around to try and not have to replace it but he just took care of it no hassle at all. Super humble guy and AMAZING customer service. For sure happy most of my car wears JBR product. New intake and short shift assembly for sure coming from him. Good work!

I had the same exact thing happen to me with my jbr rear bar back in November. Told Jamie about it and I had a new one in the mail in no time. I assume mine was part of the batch with a missing weld as well.

Cheese5.0 01-24-2015 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider (Post 2797350)
If that's the case, I hope his attitude reverses.

Dude, really? Are you pretending to not know? orr?

udntknw 01-24-2015 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheese5.0 (Post 2798568)
Dude, really? Are you pretending to not know? orr?

Brock will always have a hard on for bashing Jamie. I don't think anything is going to change that.

Raider 01-24-2015 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheese5.0 (Post 2798568)
Dude, really? Are you pretending to not know? orr?


So much hate train bullshit, I stopped keeping track.


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