Top mount turbo setups

[mason]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Oil return i'm not 100% sure on quite yet... and it may require a custom oil flange thingy mc-jig like i'm building for my manifold, but if it does, i'd make it. I want this setup to be as "drop-in" as possible. For the feed, i'm using a -3 AN (-3 recommended for my turbo) that's 18" long. The modified oem feed comes out from behind the alternator, and is pointing toward the driver's side, so my line loops under and around the manifold, and fits right onto the CHRA. It's kinda long, but i don't think there's any harm in that, and it makes things much easier. A right-angle adapter may be needed to keep the line from hitting the hood when the rotating assembly is clocked vertical. That's how i'll be running mine. Install day on the ms6 is coming very soon... and at that time, we'll be hashing out these final details, and i'll assemble some ms6 kits to get out there.

ok cool, yeah i got a bango -4an for the turbo iol feed. and a bunch of other lil parts on the way. just keep us posted on what you figure with the lines and stuff.
thanks man!

[jmhinkle]

Leen you haz money!

Mark@SU, check your pm's, you are next!

Dustin, you've got another 6 to work on. LOL

Finally no more smoke every time the car idles.

[steedspeed]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle Leen you haz money!

Got it, thanks!

And thanks to everyone for their positive comments about the new manifold. It makes my day to bring this kind of quality to you guys and have it appreciated.

[JMEngineer]

I haven't been this excited since the first time I got laid.

I decided this stuff is too pretty to install on a stock block so I found a low mileage engine and bought some Pauter rods, CP pistons, and an ACT 6 puck clutch to go with it.

[djuosnteisn]

LOL, fucking sweet man!

[xdm88]

sheesh i keep seein people mention stuff about upgrading their engine when goin with somethin like a 30r and bigger, not knockin what their doin-just jealous mostly ha.

now im worried that ill b an idiot not to do the same but dont have a second car to have this one be worked on. i just want this kit and be done modding for now. anybody not getting the piston and rod combo and gettin this kit? thanks

mason and turd, great pics of ur future set up btw, save me some time piecing stuff together haha

[MSP611]

I'm not if I blow I'll rebuild after

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by xdm88 sheesh i keep seein people mention stuff about upgrading their engine when goin with somethin like a 30r and bigger, not knockin what their doin-just jealous mostly ha. now im worried that ill b an idiot not to do the same but dont have a second car to have this one be worked on. i just want this kit and be done modding for now. anybody not getting the piston and rod combo and gettin this kit? thanks mason and turd, great pics of ur future set up btw, save me some time piecing stuff together haha

Don't worry, lots of stock block BTs rolling around. Just keep the tune safe and stick to like 20 psi, and you'll have a really really fun daily setup.

Sounds stupid, but BTs are actually safer for this car than stock turbos.

[xdm88]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Don't worry, lots of stock block BTs rolling around. Just keep the tune safe and stick to like 20 psi, and you'll have a really really run daily setup. Sounds stupid, but BTs are actually safer for this car than stock turbos.

not stupid at all, i remember alpha's 20psi thread and many were sayin they were safer with bt's but also there was concern of the increased stress but im takin your advice on the 20psi, that'll give me some piece of mind

Originally Posted by MSP611 I'm not if I blow I'll rebuild after

not broke dont fix it right? good to know there's some others out there still

[turd burglar]

test fit for the 3 should happen today. pics will come later

[Alpha]

Man, I still can't believe you guys are able to fit those big snails under the hood without issues. That's crazy.

[turd burglar]

its much like tryin to fit my nuts in my pants, its a struggle on a daily basis sir hahahaha

[Dano]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Don't worry, lots of stock block BTs rolling around. Just keep the tune safe and stick to like 20 psi, and you'll have a really really fun daily setup. Sounds stupid, but BTs are actually safer for this car than stock turbos.

20PSI then 20.5...then a month later...21....then 21.5.....hahahaha

need some sort of timed map lock to keep me from cranking up the boost!!

22 sure feels goooooood

[turd burglar]

well, is all im gonna say. get pics up when i can

[Cataphract_40]

ok...I realize I'm very late to this party, but I want to know...and I've already looked thru the thread and couldn't find any info on this particular thing, so...

Are there any plans or thoughts on making one of these nice manis with a t4 flange? Specifically, a twin scroll t4 flange

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by Cataphract_40 Are there any plans or thoughts on making one of these nice manis with a t4 flange? Specifically, a twin scroll t4 flange

I'm pretty sure Leen has done T4 flanges on the stock location. Don't see why he wouldn't do one in the topmount.

[turd burglar]

1 reason he cant do a t4 top mount is cuz the ms3 cant fit a turbo up top. need to cut into the cowl/firewall

[Cataphract_40]

Originally Posted by turd burglar 1 reason he cant do a t4 top mount is cuz the ms3 cant fit a turbo up top. need to cut into the cowl/firewall

Now I'm really confused. A T3 top mount is ok but a T4 top mount isn't?

[turd burglar]

lol im sayin that you cant fit any turbo up top on a ms3. i just put my mani in today and the turbo doesnt clear the wiper cowl

[mtnrunner]

Pics are loading in the email right now from the test fit with turd's setup. i will be emailing them in a few and i am sure he will get them posted quick.

[Cataphract_40]

Originally Posted by turd burglar lol im sayin that you cant fit any turbo up top on a ms3. i just put my mani in today and the turbo doesnt clear the wiper cowl

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so...this whole topic is pointless? everyone who bought one of these top mount manis wasted their money?

[turd burglar]

if you have a ms6 you are good to go. the 3 is gonna require some cutting, and even then, who knows if it'll work

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by Cataphract_40 so...this whole topic is pointless? everyone who bought one of these top mount manis wasted their money?

I know DJ has tested MS6 fitment. So, yes, a topmount on MS6 does fit. But maybe not a T4, no one has tried it that I know of.

As far as MS3, I know DJ said he's working on testing fitment, but, I don't know the status. Turd's status doesn't sound so good....

[Cataphract_40]

fan-fucking-tastic.

I swear...this car comes up with new ways to fuck us every day. I should sell and buy a geo metro...or go into tremendous debt and buy a 2012 GT-R

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by turd burglar if you have a ms6 you are good to go. the 3 is gonna require some cutting, and even then, who knows if it'll work

Well, if that is the case, then, maybe need to reintroduce the idea of a twin scroll for stock location. Leen said he didn't think he could make one using his design for a stock location. But, I guess I don't understand why. These things are carved out of flat plates. I must be missing something, but I figured it would be just a case of reversing the flanges -- put the T3 on bottom and the EWG on top instead of vice-versa. Must be something I'm not getting.

[turd burglar]

we took a bunch of pics, these ones give the best idea of the problem. the compressor housing is hitting the metal cowl under the wiper tray deal








and the turbo and mani arent lined up cuz thats as far as i could push the turbo in there with the current clearance issues

[Speed3eak]

Could you tilt the part where the hotside mounts to the manifold forwards a little bit?

I don't know much about these but I never heard any rule about where they have to be parallel with the ground. Would that effect it's function much?

[turd burglar]

you could, but 2 problems. 1, you are comin super close to the valve cover as it is, any more tilt and you will be touchin there. 2nd, i spoke to leen about this awhile ago, and if he tilts it much more, its gonna mess with the flow a good amount.

Hey leen, i dont know if you have made a top mount for a regular 3, but if you have, could you just throw our head flange on there? i cant see anything else fitting differently between a reg 3 and a ms3, but i might be wrong

[Cataphract_40]

well turd...i guess we found out the answer to "what'll be my next fail?"

[turd burglar]

on a side note of finding something we were actually lookin for, we found mtn runners exhaust leak issue lol



leens stock mount might be callin us...

[mtnrunner]

This is what happens when you dont check to see if the studs are tight on the turbo with a pg mani. i ended up loosing two of them, lol.

Dustin, i will get a new gasket asap and install it then we can get back to tuning and hopefully my car will actually make target boost.

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by turd burglar Hey leen, i dont know if you have made a top mount for a regular 3, but if you have, could you just throw our head flange on there? i cant see anything else fitting differently between a reg 3 and a ms3, but i might be wrong

You think Leen might have made a topmount turbo manifold upgrade for a REGULAR 3? That must be some wicked shit you smoked. LOL.

[turd burglar]

yeah i believe jake (cpe) had it on his 3 sedan. you are thinkin that im sayin this mani was meant for a 3, thats not it. im sayin if leen has made a top mount that fit on a 3 (jakes) then why couldnt he copy the design over to us with our head flange. so smoke on that, turkey

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by turd burglar yeah i believe jake (cpe) had it on his 3 sedan. you are thinkin that im sayin this mani was meant for a 3, thats not it. im sayin if leen has made a top mount that fit on a 3 (jakes) then why couldnt he copy the design over to us with our head flange. so smoke on that, turkey

I was just giving you some shit, I figured there must be something I didn't know about what you were saying.

[turd burglar]

for that, you receive a judo kick

[Fobio]

turd, sorry if I missed it, but what turbo are you running there?

[socks]

dude, turd, dont go getting everyones panties in a wad just cuz it didnt work on yours on the first shot.

if your going top mount, you are probably at the point where trimming the cowl shouldnt be a big deal to you. i took a pair of vice grips and cracked mine off one piece at a time til everything i needed to clear cleared.

[SSinstaller]

Originally Posted by turd burglar yeah i believe jake (cpe) had it on his 3 sedan. you are thinkin that im sayin this mani was meant for a 3, thats not it. im sayin if leen has made a top mount that fit on a 3 (jakes) then why couldnt he copy the design over to us with our head flange. so smoke on that, turkey

Jake's manifold was made by Carlos at Creative Performance.

[bmylez]

Fuuuuuu. I know it's not quite the end of the world, but I don't exactly want to hack up my cowl. I suppose there are worse things to modify...

[Speedie6]

Originally Posted by socks if your going top mount, you are probably at the point where trimming the cowl shouldnt be a big deal to you. i took a pair of vice grips and cracked mine off one piece at a time til everything i needed to clear cleared.

So, Turd, what do you think of sock's idea?