Top Mount Turbo Speed3

[JacksonMS30]

I'm gonna be selling the 3071 which accidentally got left at DJ's house. He already installed it on Garage Nurse's Focus though so I'm not sure how long it will take before I can get it back... lol!!

I have actually already got a couple potential buyers for it...

Originally Posted by Seatime3 Im corn jealous! What size is the fifth injector?

I'm running fifth and sixth port so there are two 1000cc injectors in my coldpipe right before the throttle body.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by JacksonMS30 I'm gonna be selling the 3071 which accidentally got left at DJ's house. He already installed it on Garage Nurse's Focus though so I'm not sure how long it will take before I can get it back... lol!! I have actually already got a couple potential buyers for it... I'm running fifth and sixth port so there are two 1000cc injectors in my coldpipe right before the throttle body.

You also left camera's, umm hats? and I think some other shit... but that has already been put up on ebay to support Dustin's and my crack addiction.

Also we got marcos car running last night and he traded in today... SCORE!

[Deldran]

Question. Why have the intake switched to the other side. I understand that turning the turbo up would put it in that position, but couldnt you turn the flange on the mani 180 and get the intake back on the stock side. This would allow you just to have to maybe extend your current downpipe instead of getting an whole new one. and wouldnt that also allow you to get the SRI closer to the front of the motor where maybe the air is a bit cooler. Just curious

Either way that is a sweet mani and turbo setup. djuosnteisn. You are awesome, you always make great stuff for the speeds

[i8urgti]

very impressive guys! sweet fuckin manifold and id like to see the DP too.
i see a whole lotta gay in those pics. particularly one filipino lady boy

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by i8urgti very impressive guys! sweet fuckin manifold and id like to see the DP too. i see a whole lotta gay in those pics. particularly one filipino lady boy

I will make sure and give you a kiss before I leave next time

[Geo13]

Amazing setup!! Looks tits!!!

[Realgib3]

You guys worried about IAT's need to relax. It's 100% fine sucking in air from right there.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Deldran Question. Why have the intake switched to the other side. I understand that turning the turbo up would put it in that position, but couldnt you turn the flange on the mani 180 and get the intake back on the stock side. This would allow you just to have to maybe extend your current downpipe instead of getting an whole new one. and wouldnt that also allow you to get the SRI closer to the front of the motor where maybe the air is a bit cooler. Just curious Either way that is a sweet mani and turbo setup. djuosnteisn. You are awesome, you always make great stuff for the speeds

As dustin stated in a previous post, the turbo simply will not fit without having an issue. That is why it is flipped around.

When my car was down and I was about to rip my engine out, Dustin came over one day and we fiddled around with my 35r in my engine bay... we litterally spent like 30min to an hour seeing how we could fit a top mounted big turbo. Dustin came up with this idea because it was the only way it could fit without having fitment issues.

[Deldran]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf As dustin stated in a previous post, the turbo simply will not fit without having an issue. That is why it is flipped around. When my car was down and I was about to rip my engine out, Dustin came over one day and we fiddled around with my 35r in my engine bay... we litterally spent like 30min to an hour seeing how we could fit a top mounted big turbo. Dustin came up with this idea because it was the only way it could fit without having fitment issues.

Thanks Sorry I skimmed the above posts must have missed it

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[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by Deldran Question. Why have the intake switched to the other side....

Yup, as mentioned, when keeping the stock orientation (intake on driver's side, exh on passenger's), things get ugly fast. The turbo flange becomes extremely close to the head flange, forcing awkward and difficult runners (most likely only possible with a log style manifold, or something like what steedspeed used to do), and the down pipe clearance becomes a headache too (very close to the alternator). Not only that, but with the 3's different cowl / firewall setup, the turbo has to sit considerably lower than how we do it on the 6's. This puts the compressor outlet at screwy angle and makes hood clearance difficult. If you move the turbo even lower to compensate, top mount becomes impossible, and runners are still AFU'd.

Spin the bisch around... all problems solved.

There are a few benefits to the top mount setup, some of the more obvious are aesthetics, it's simply eye candy. It's also handy to work on / swap out turbos. You can have the turbo off and on in about 30-45 minutes. And the 2 piece dp is ridiculously simple as well.

For the intake temps... i contemplated making a heat shield (and still might), but at fist blush, it really didn't seem necessary. I have a feeling that much of the lost efficiency will be gained back due to a drastically reduce intake restriction. For dyno days and track days, it can be taken even farther by simply swapping the filter out with a screen (not advised on windy days lol).

To put intake restrictions in perspective, I have a local buddy with a 600awhp wrx, and he was screwing around one day on the dyno. He did back to back pulls with and without his intake filter. The without pull resulted in nearly a 50 hp increase, with no other changes (he was only around 550 awhp back then, uncorrected). So it's significant. Any vacuum at the inlet directly plays into the operating pressure ratio of the compressor.



Short and skinny of it is that i love the top mount for my ms6... and was determined to find a way to put one on my 3. This kit is basically what i came up with.

[i8urgti]

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport I will make sure and give you a kiss before I leave next time

[burn813]

I. HATE. YOU.






































P.S. how many blow jobs did you need to give djuosnteisn?

Originally Posted by JacksonMS30 I'm gonna be selling the 3071 which accidentally got left at DJ's house. He already installed it on Garage Nurse's Focus though so I'm not sure how long it will take before I can get it back... lol!! I have actually already got a couple potential buyers for it... I'm running fifth and sixth port so there are two 1000cc injectors in my coldpipe right before the throttle body.

Dustin is shipping me the 3071 to hold ransom bish JacksonMS30

[tbot]

Damn Dustin...amazing man. I need to just take my 6 down to you to fix it since I have no fucking clue what's wrong with mine. That and so you can install my top mount setup haha.

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[JacksonMS30]

Originally Posted by burn813 I. HATE. YOU. P.S. how many blow jobs did you need to give djuosnteisn?

Well he said it was free but then he tried to roofy me. Unfortunately, he accidentally drank the roofy'd margarita and gave himself a BJ...

[burn813]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn /longest weekend of my life.... (well.... almost "/"....).

wasn't I there for one of them?

[NoRegrets]

win thread is full of win

very nice set-up and great seeing msf members coming together to bust this out in just a couple of days.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by NoRegrets win thread is full of win very nice set-up and great seeing msf members cumming together to bust this load out in just a couple yanks.

fixed

[mtnrunner]

Allan, I just texted eric to let him know I am so jealous of your setup that I will no longer be able to support Edge. HAHAHAH. Eric and jp already know how anxious I am. Good shit man, your going to love it.

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by burn813 wasn't I there for one of them?

This weekend was almost exactly on par with that weekend.

Fuck... i thought weekends were meant for resting. These days, i wake up on Monday and breathe a sigh of relief.

Originally Posted by JacksonMS30 Well he said it was free but then he tried to roofy me. Unfortunately, he accidentally drank the roofy'd margarita and gave himself a BJ...

This is more true than you guys know.....

[burn813]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn This is more true than you guys know.....

How does Eric's butthole taste? :troll:

[silvapain]

I came.


Tapadatass

[PapaSmurf]

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[Jackis]

God damn, fucking Jesus, Stalin, Gorbachev and Obama!

That is really cool, Alan! Now I see the photos!
Tune that bitch up! It should really cool to drive that!

And I really appreciate this american community (comparing to ours in the aspect of helping each other with builds. That is so cool that you can meet together with 3-4 members to help you with!

[cld12pk2go]

In for logs, dynos, etc...

[Ziggo]

In before 13s














Love you Alan!

[JacksonMS30]

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go In for logs, dynos, etc...

Here are some logs from my current base tune. 91oct only with fifth port not running. Pretty much just the get it running so he can make it back to Denver tune...

[fishin53]

this is pure sex

[Black Metal]

Yay Boost!!! With a bit of creep at the end

[PapaSmurf]

fucking 20 psi by 4800... i was way off... looks like i lost the bet.

For some reason I thought u would atleast have 20psi by 4200.

[JacksonMS30]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf fucking 20 psi by 4800... i was way off... looks like i lost the bet. For some reason I thought u would atleast have 20psi by 4200.

Hopefully some tuning will help the spool a little but idk how much... We'll see what happens but I may end up getting a GTX3076.

[PapaSmurf]

u could always try for a smaller hotside... like a .62

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by JacksonMS30 Here are some logs from my current base tune. 91oct only with fifth port not running. Pretty much just the get it running so he can make it back to Denver tune...

Running MBC I suppose?

[djuosnteisn]

Yeah, he had a MBC... but there are definitely issues with it. The whole "tune" was a hip shot at getting decent fuel trims for the trip back to denver. We never even got to the point of "tuning" due to all the blown couplers and leaks, hahaha. And there's zero reason for him to be hitting 30psi... so he's switching to spring pressure only for now.



Spool is quite a bit slower than i expected too, hahaha. The HTA3586 is pretty big.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn Yeah, he had a MBC... but there are definitely issues with it. The whole "tune" was a hip shot at getting decent fuel trims for the trip back to denver. We never even got to the point of "tuning" due to all the blown couplers and leaks, hahaha. And there's zero reason for him to be hitting 30psi... so he's switching to spring pressure only for now. Spool is quite a bit slower than i expected too, hahaha. The HTA3586 is pretty big.

Looks like you need to go back to the drawing board and make a twinscroll T3 or T4 option.

:phillyb::phillyb::phillyb::phillyb::phillyb:


hahaha jk jk

[djuosnteisn]

Fuck TS t3.....

TS t4 on the other hand would be quite nice...

[PapaSmurf]

hey now, I have no problems with TS T3..... yet.

[jbarone]

Fawk! That's some cool shit.

[atvfreek]

Holy 30psi and 500g/s at elevation. What do you think made boost shoot that high?

[Realgib3]

Hmmm that spool does seem a little slow. With mbc I hit 20psi by ~4200 rpm on my 6466 which is actually a bigger turbo. Hmmm maybe just elevation difference? ??

[JacksonMS30]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 Hmmm that spool does seem a little slow. With mbc I hit 20psi by ~4200 rpm on my 6466 which is actually a bigger turbo. Hmmm maybe just elevation difference? ??

Is that in 3rd or 4th gear?