So, about the new Corksport turbo...

[Raider]

Originally Posted by CorkSport He is just 1 of the 6 and is the "old man" of the group, lol

Where the heck are the rest of the testers that I did not ban?

[littleloogy]

I need to be banned tonight so I can put my turbo in.


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[AwAfrican]

Originally Posted by littleloogy I need to be banned tonight so I can put my turbo in. Sent from my iPhone 6

How about no! I personally would like to hear what you have to say about this puppy powered turbo, getting yourself banned will leave us with the same reviews as the other 4 beta testers: none.

Although I do appreciate the humor. let's get that puppy in and see what its got! When are you expecting to have it installed?

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by AwAfrican How about no! I personally would like to hear what you have to say about this puppy powered turbo, getting yourself banned will leave us with the same reviews as the other 4 beta testers: none. Although I do appreciate the humor. let's get that puppy in and see what its got! When are you expecting to have it installed?

Yes. I bought a local NATOR member dinner @theMANIMAL; he is now hitting on my woman. But eventually we are going to tear my shit apart. I have injector seals to do as well.


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[Yatta]

Originally Posted by Raider You probably could. OR, just fuckin move like I did 14 years ago.

Don’t get me wrong, I moved in 91 and only go back for family or business, always with rental cars having lived under the nightmare that is CARB will really make you appreciate how well you have it elsewhere... but I do miss the freeways and the Mexican toll road right around K38..... oh the banked turns on a road less travelled. Now I live in glorious smog free (both tests and pollution) El Paso County, Colorado....

[littleloogy]

Any one want to buy a turbo? Fuuucckkk..... These stock heat shields suck balls



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[my2k13speed3]

@littleloogy; you doing the turbo swap?

[littleloogy]

Not anymore. I got too drunk. Wednesday I should be finishing if you want to swing by. Mike should be here too. I should throw a meet and barbecue while you guys put in the puppy...


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[my2k13speed3]

@littleloogy; I'm home sick with a really bad cold and our baby has pink eye and croup (upper respiratory infection) otherwise I would come out there

[Awal]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Any one want to buy a turbo? Fuuucckkk..... These stock heat shields suck balls Sent from my iPhone 6

You run a FMIC obviously, anyways, every stock turbo car I've owned will glow in the dark w/out heat shields after a spirited or uphill run. The aftermarket/bigger turbos are gonna run cooler due to obvious reasons but it's not hard to get em glowing.

Turbos from the '80s up could/can last 150ishk+ miles easy, if not more. Just let your car run a bit on the way home, or run it for a minute to let it cool a bit before shutoff. There's no need for turbo timers now with the continually running coolant even after shut down on the MS3s turbo, but doing a bit of chillaxed driving fer a min or 2 right before shutting the car does help turbo life to a degree.

They are meant to run that hot on a fairly consistent basis without breaking, unless you get an unlucky design. Like I guess the GenJuan and MS6 with the smoking turbo..



TL; DR blah blah blah don't worry about your glowing turbo just don't shut the car off before letting it cool a bit, the older the turbo, the more important in most situation..

[theMANIMAL]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Yes. I bought a local NATOR member dinner @theMANIMAL; he is now hitting on my woman. But eventually we are going to tear my shit apart. I have injector seals to do as well. Sent from my iPhone 6

As lovely as your woman is, I have my own Besides, we couldn't do anything until she moved her car.

Originally Posted by littleloogy Any one want to buy a turbo? Fuuucckkk..... These stock heat shields suck balls Sent from my iPhone 6

Those stock heat shields were some bullshit!

[Raider]

Ratcheting wrenches come in really handy for those.

[iammike]

Originally Posted by Awal continually running coolant even after shut down on the MS3s turbo

Wait wait, I think I just learned something new. lol The coolant continues to circulate after shutting the engine down? How? My brain is stuck on belt driven water pump which obviously stops when the engine does.

**sorry for the distraction**

[Barett@CorkSport]

Originally Posted by iammike Wait wait, I think I just learned something new. lol The coolant continues to circulate after shutting the engine down? How? My brain is stuck on belt driven water pump which obviously stops when the engine does. **sorry for the distraction**

Natural heat flow. Heat rises; so as the coolant cools in the radiator it naturally circulates through the cooling system pulling the hot coolant out of the engine block until all of the coolant is close to ambient temperature.
Obviously it doesn't circulate at the rate that the pump moves it, but it does circulate slowly.
A properly designed routing of the coolant lines for the turbo will take advantage of this natural heat flow process.

[Awal]

Originally Posted by Barett@CorkSport Natural heat flow. Heat rises; so as the coolant cools in the radiator it naturally circulates through the cooling system pulling the hot coolant out of the engine block until all of the coolant is close to ambient temperature. Obviously it doesn't circulate at the rate that the pump moves it, but it does circulate slowly. A properly designed routing of the coolant lines for the turbo will take advantage of this natural heat flow process.

Exactly that^

Most of the stock and even aftermarket turbos used to only be oil cooled from the early '80s-late '90s-early 2Ks, and indeed if you shut down yer car while the turbo was glowing red or very hot the oil left in the turbo lines would coak (carbolize or literally burn into a hard mess) and eventually eventually reduce or stop fresh oil from flowing through your turbo, which is very bad news. Some cars would come stock with turbo timers back in the day, mostly JDM stuff tho, Japanese love their gadgets even more than us.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Awal You run a FMIC obviously, anyways,

Actually I am stock besides my C.S. Racepipe. I hit about 310whp (VD) with the Stock intake and intercooler. I want to see how much air this baby will move over a K04 with the flow restrictions intact. After installation of puppy is complete I will not be changing my tune. Straight bolt on comparison, from a Direct drop in replacement standpoint.

After data is collected, I will be switching over to 3 port interrupt configuration on my EBCS, C.S, 3.5" intake, and if all goes well, my new injectors will be installed and functioning. I can't wait for this all to be finished. I want another shot at that Lambo that blew my doors off a few weeks ago. That rich SOB will eat my corn fumes, with his convertible top down and his woman's hair blowing in the wind... I wish I was rich...


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[Raider]

You have a stock downpipe too? Oh man, you are fucked. Oh so fucked.

[Addikted To Boost]

yea...stock downpipe is a fickle whore

[aromig]

I remember wiring up a turbo timer on my 2nd DSM. The little garret T25 hair dryer on the 2Gs got hot as hell. Having it was reassuring, so then all I had to worry about was crank walk and my transfer case shitting the bed. Different topic, I know. I digress.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by Addikted To Boost yea...stock downpipe is a fickle whore

Originally Posted by Raider You have a stock downpipe too? Oh man, you are fucked. Oh so fucked.

Awe, thanks for the encouragement. You both sound like you have had some positive experience dealing with stock down pipes... And I was bitching about heat shields. Lord help me....


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[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Awe, thanks for the encouragement. You both sound like you have had some positive experience dealing with stock down pipes... And I was bitching about heat shields. Lord help me.... Sent from my iPhone 6

The heat shields are the worst part really. At least thats been the most frustrating for me in the past. 8mm ratcheting wrench.

Hulk smash the dp nuts, after a lot of PB.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Awe, thanks for the encouragement. You both sound like you have had some positive experience dealing with stock down pipes... And I was bitching about heat shields. Lord help me.... Sent from my iPhone 6

You did not read my review. It was essentially reviewing of the Hell install we went through.

If you get the 5 DP nuts off with studs, you are lucky. If not, sawz all the thing out. Or follow directions that Corksport spent a long time on. Seriously, fuck the OEM downpipe.

[Yatta]

Originally Posted by WetzMS3 The heat shields are the worst part really. At least thats been the most frustrating for me in the past. 8mm ratcheting wrench. Hulk smash the dp nuts, after a lot of PB.

if you undo the RMM and the PMM, slide it forward, will a grinder fit in there?

[Awal]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Actually I am stock besides my C.S. Racepipe. I hit about 310whp (VD) with the Stock intake and intercooler. I want to see how much air this baby will move over a K04 with the flow restrictions intact. After installation of puppy is complete I will not be changing my tune. Straight bolt on comparison, from a Direct drop in replacement standpoint. After data is collected, I will be switching over to 3 port interrupt configuration on my EBCS, C.S, 3.5" intake, and if all goes well, my new injectors will be installed and functioning. I can't wait for this all to be finished. I want another shot at that Lambo that blew my doors off a few weeks ago. That rich SOB will eat my corn fumes, with his convertible top down and his woman's hair blowing in the wind... I wish I was rich... Sent from my iPhone 6

Sorry I assumed you ran a FMIC as within the time it would take the average dude to remove the TMIC/heatshields the turbo shouldn't be glowing at all. But I'm now guessing you removed the heatshields, buttoned up yer TMIC, went on a pretty serious rip, and popped the TMIC off and snapped the pic..


Good luck dealing with the stock DP, and the install in general. How many miles you have on your vehicle that your injectors are shot?

That will be interesting to see how the new turbo handles your old tune, can't wait to see the logs!

Off to drop off my CS DP and TP for ceramic coating. Can't wait for a reason to take the turbo/EM off to get them done as well, all free (in trade for cheap work). I'm trying to keep the engine bay temps down and reduce heatsoak.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Raider You did not read my review. It was essentially reviewing of the Hell install we went through. If you get the 5 DP nuts off with studs, you are lucky. If not, sawz all the thing out. Or follow directions that Corksport spent a long time on. Seriously, fuck the OEM downpipe.

FWIW, when I did my BNR swap, my MS6 had 118,000 miles on it (if memory serves). I PB-blasted the turbo studs/nuts for a couple of days and got some heat-cycles in them before attempting to remove them. They came out easily.

I only had WD-40 on hand when I did my downpipe at ~100,000 miles. I soaked them for a couple of days ahead of the swap, and heat-cycled things a bit. They came out pretty easily too.

YMMV, of course.

[MSP6]

Originally Posted by Awal How many miles you have on your vehicle that your injectors are shot?

He's working on upgraded/modified injectors IIRC... for teh c0rn.

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by MSP6 He's working on upgraded/modified injectors IIRC... for teh c0rn.

Nope, i 86ed that idea a few weeks after I started. Heard way to many horror stories on different platforms about people trying to attempt, even if I was successful, I did not want people fucking up their shit and me being the blame. However, I do have something that i pulled out of my ass recently for everyone.... If I can make them work. But this is not the thread for that.


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[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by littleloogy Nope, i 86ed that idea a few weeks after I started. Heard way to many horror stories on different platforms about people trying to attempt, even if I was successful, I did not want people fucking up their shit and me being the blame. However, I do have something that i pulled out of my ass recently for everyone.... If I can make them work. But this is not the thread for that. Sent from my iPhone 6

Link to thread for that?

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by WetzMS3 Link to thread for that?

No such thread, not spilling the beans. I don't want nosey vendors (not you corksport) stealing any ideas that could be a HUGE breakthrough in our fuel delivery. I should not have opened my big fat mouth...


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[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by littleloogy No such thread, not spilling the beans. I don't want nosey vendors (not you corksport) stealing any ideas that could be a HUGE breakthrough in our fuel delivery. I should not have opened my big fat mouth... Sent from my iPhone 6

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[MSP6]

You either have a serious tech brain, or serious A.D.D....or both. Heh. Bring on the info man. Da fuq was this thread about again?

[daafisch]

so many people complaining about stock dp removal. It's not THAT bad. Swivels, extensions, more swivels, stubby 14 wrench or thin 14 wrench, breaker bar, pb blaster.

[Raider]

We had all that. But the "Christine" factor in my car, 15 hours was quick.

[Yatta]

I’ve had a CPE DP in my garage for over a year because of DP installation complaints... waiting for a reason (other parts) to do it as well, manifold or turbo... one of these days .

[ihasmazda]

How much does the genjuan ms3 DP suck compared to the MS6's? It only took me two days to swap mine. About 10 hours of cursing and 4 actual working on it I'd say...

[theMANIMAL]

Originally Posted by Awal Sorry I assumed you ran a FMIC as within the time it would take the average dude to remove the TMIC/heatshields the turbo shouldn't be glowing at all. But I'm now guessing you removed the heatshields, buttoned up yer TMIC, went on a pretty serious rip, and popped the TMIC off and snapped the pic..

Nope. He started up the car and moved it from the driveway to the garage. It was only on for like minute to a minute and a half. It wasn't glowing, but that shit got hot fast. Not unbearable, but really not pleasant with bare hands.

[Awal]

Originally Posted by theMANIMAL Nope. He started up the car and moved it from the driveway to the garage. It was only on for like minute to a minute and a half. It wasn't glowing, but that shit got hot fast. Not unbearable, but really not pleasant with bare hands.

Yeah, that is pretty damn hot, pretty damn fast. In the dark it's definitely much easier to notice, but even then I usually have had to be in the boost for a bit, or do a bunch of uphill driving to get my turbos on my other turbo cars to glow, they were all also front mounted turbos..

Either way, yeah, be careful working around any of the exhaust side parts, make sure you have some decent mechanics gloves and long sleeves if the car has been running recently. And don't be wearing any polyester shit, it'll melt like butter.

[someguy]

Originally Posted by Awal Yeah, that is pretty damn hot, pretty damn fast. In the dark it's definitely much easier to notice, but even then I usually have had to be in the boost for a bit, or do a bunch of uphill driving to get my turbos on my other turbo cars to glow, they were all also front mounted turbos.. Either way, yeah, be careful working around any of the exhaust side parts, make sure you have some decent mechanics gloves and long sleeves if the car has been running recently. And don't be wearing any polyester shit, it'll melt like butter.

Just for the record, DO NOT wear mechanics gloves handling things hot...they melt, stick to your hands and burn the living shit outta you since they have synthetic fabrics a lot of the time. You want real leather for handling hot stuff.

[g00s3y]

Damnit, now I really wish I was a tester. I would have had a bunch of 93, 50/50, full e85 logs, VD's, etc... with this thing by now.

CS feel free to add me as the "12th beta man" on the team, kind of like the Seahawks do with their fans lol.

[SpencerC]

Originally Posted by someguy Just for the record, DO NOT wear mechanics gloves handling things hot...they melt, stick to your hands and burn the living shit outta you since they have synthetic fabrics a lot of the time. You want real leather for handling hot stuff.

I prefer the plastic gloves...... like the ones I use when washing dishes. They melt the best.