So, about the new Corksport turbo...

[Rich990]

Seems to be a jump in IDC as your vvt goes down to 0 as well.

[Chriss]

The little turbo just came in France... with a lot of customs charges
I Will go to post office in few days to take it

[AwAfrican]

Originally Posted by Chriss The little turbo just came in France... with a lot of customs charges I Will go to post office in few days to take it

Ouch, we can get dinged pretty hard here in Canada as well I feel your pain

[Awal]

Originally Posted by Chriss The little turbo just came in France... with a lot of customs charges I Will go to post office in few days to take it

Almost everyone outside of the US feels your pain mon frere

[Chriss]

Thanks guys!
I will post some pics asap

[wompa]

My reading comprehension sucks so stupid question. Other then ebcs, map sensor, tune and maybe some crush washers, this comes with everything needed to drop into an ms6? Everything for the oil/coolant etc. Is taken care of?

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by wompa My reading comprehension sucks so stupid question. Other then ebcs, map sensor, tune and maybe some crush washers, this comes with everything needed to drop into an ms6? Everything for the oil/coolant etc. Is taken care of?

The only thing you really NEED to run this turbo on any speed3/6 is a tune and fuel pump internals. Ebcs is nice to have but not necessary. Map sensor is really needed only when running over 21 psi. This kit comes with all hardware

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by JgamB You can drop a full second or more off your 60-100 if you get off that 100% Eth that is gobbling up your IDC and pushing you out to nearly 13:1 AFRs IMO. More boost (22 spool, reverse tapered to 24, feather out 2° of peak timing, and target 11.8 AFRs on a 3 gal mix. It's a bit more conventional.. but it sorta works.

This man speaks the truth. There is no benefit to running full e on this turbo. In fact it is hindering you because like dude said, it's gobbling up your injector duty cycle. If you want to make the mix simple, go to a 50/50 mix. Otherwise you will be tapped out where you're at without adding some aux fuel

[Raider]

Originally Posted by littleloogy @Raider; My apologies. for some reason I thought this was the "So About The New CS turbo Thread" and was not my intent to derail. but just for fun here is a log I took on my way home. Attachment 203042

Moved to the proper thread

[Chriss]

The little turbo just came at home

I've got the number 20... I was late to order lol (the little plate upside-down)

Install will be in few weeks

[RJTSi]

So, with the help of the CS 18g, I managed to fuck my exhaust cam's couch! #longDickStyle lol

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by RJTSi So, with the help of the CS 18g, I managed to fuck my exhaust cam's couch! #longDickStyle lol

And you are giving me tuning advice? Glad I don't listen to you....


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[RJTSi]

Cool story bro. Tune isn't going save your cam from snapping when torque hits. This motor has been through a car fire and back. Shit happens. You wanna make sure this doesn't happen...don't make power. Problem solved
Will Dawson of PD tuning destroyed a cam too. I guess you shouldn't listen to his advise either

[littleloogy]

Originally Posted by RJTSi Cool story bro. Tune isn't going save your cam from snapping when torque hits. This motor has been through a car fire and back. Shit happens. You wanna make sure this doesn't happen...don't make power. Problem solved Will Dawson of PD tuning destroyed a cam too. I guess you shouldn't listen to his advise either

Let me tell it again...
Nothing personal, just giving you a hard time. I don't listen to anyone, anywhere. I am an arrogant prick.
How much power were you putting down when this happened? I have never seen this before to tell you the truth.


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[RJTSi]

My bad dude I thought you were coming at me lol. I left my laptop at the shop, but on the revision I did before this, it was 330 hp and over 315tq(can't remember the exact value) at 20 psi. This is in my speed6. I was in the middle of a 4th gear log when this happened. Made it to 3800 and pop. Actually sounded like a coupler blowing off. I'm still on a stock sized intake. 3.5" on the way as well as a 3bar

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by RJTSi My bad dude I thought you were coming at me lol. I left my laptop at the shop, but on the revision I did before this, it was 330 hp and over 315tq(can't remember the exact value) at 20 psi. This is in my speed6. I was in the middle of a 4th gear log when this happened. Made it to 3800 and pop. Actually sounded like a coupler blowing off. I'm still on a stock sized intake. 3.5" on the way as well as a 3bar

I'm flowing over 330 g/s at 4.56ish volts. Bout to max it out. Well I won't be doing anything till we get this back together. Should be good to go by tomorrow. Luckily we have spare cams

[AwAfrican]

Originally Posted by Chriss The little turbo just came at home I've got the number 20... I was late to order lol (the little plate upside-down) Install will be in few weeks

That's #2 with the plate upside down....

[Chriss]

I don't worry too much about this plate, nobody will see it where it's located

Edit : I hope this is the only thing that is upside down on this turbo (lol)

[mituc]

Originally Posted by RJTSi I'm flowing over 330 g/s at 4.56ish volts. Bout to max it out. Well I won't be doing anything till we get this back together. Should be good to go by tomorrow. Luckily we have spare cams

There are a lot of people with factory cams flowing a lot more than that.
So I'm wondering if your cams have ever been removed or worked on. The cam torquing procedure needs to be followed accurately to prevent the cams from breaking (during the torquing procedure or after). So in your case I'd say it's either this or bad luck.

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by mituc There are a lot of people with factory cams flowing a lot more than that. So I'm wondering if your cams have ever been removed or worked on. The cam torquing procedure needs to be followed accurately to prevent the cams from breaking (during the torquing procedure or after). So in your case I'd say it's either this or bad luck.

Yeah I totally agree. I'm just now getting to the peak #'s I was making on the k04, although there's much much more area under the curve now. So it wasn't just shear torque that snapped it. This motor is built and came out of my soeed3 that was in a massive car fire. It was also ran very low on oil and spun a rod bearing prior to the build because the Mazda dealer was using 5w-20 for my free oil changes and also me not checking it often enough ( never had any smoke even catless). So I'm wondering it the cam cap(s) got a little too scored from oil starvation and hung it up just enough to where a decent torque hit, finally seized it enough to snap. I dunno. This motor has been through a lot.

[Code Monkey]

Jesus, what caused the fire?

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey Jesus, what caused the fire?

No idea. Will never know. I'm leaning towards fuel line related. But that's all I have. All I know is I smelled fuel insanely strong in the cabin about 20 sec before flames were shooting out of the vent in my CF hood

[esr010]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey Jesus, what caused the fire?

Must have been some street unit / sure products on there that spontaneously combusted.

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by esr010 Must have been some street unit / sure products on there that spontaneously combusted.

Lol. I did have a SU rear motor mount, but I doubt that set my car on fire Here's the before pic. Was a sad day

[Code Monkey]

I am betting on a cracked fuel hard line, happened to several people on the forum, including me.

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey I am betting on a cracked fuel hard line, happened to several people on the forum, including me.

Do you have any pics of the damage to the hard line? I still have my car at the shop. I'd like to see if I could see any crack at all

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by RJTSi Do you have any pics of the damage to the hard line? I still have my car at the shop. I'd like to see if I could see any crack at all

Pictures and . If your hardline is still usable, you can either cap one end and pressurize the shit out of the other end, or put it on the car and just idle, and poke around to check for leaks.

[LYDOVAS]

KP Tuning tried few dif things to help the power up top with timing and such and left it best it was going to be for what is was.

[RJTSi]

So, is anyone else having some strange issues with VDyno the past week or 2? My logs are all of a sudden reading up to 100 hp/tq lower than they theoretically should be based on maf g/s and load values. The last log I have on the k04 before the swap was on 5/21 and its reading normal. All new logs done in the past week are showing extremely low values (curves are normal, just shifted waaaay down). For instance, I picked up over 50 g/s up top, and about .05 peak load so far with the CS, however VDyno is trying to tell me I've lost 50 hp/85 tq. This is on the exact same intake as before. It's also doing the same thing on another guys car I'm tuning. He's down about 50ish hp as well. Some other local guys have confirmed that they are having the same issue. So it's not just my AP, computer, or version of VD. I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it to no avail.

[mituc]

Take some points of reference in your logs and check them, such as the 60-100 time. Just to determine if it's a vdyno problem or if now with the warmer weather you simply lost some power.
Also, don't look only at the g/s and load values, check the timing as well. The AC is on when you're logging? It will definitely not account for a 50bhp loss but depending on how hard it blows it can steal like 15-20.

Also, I really suggest purchasing a meth kit especially for the cylinder cooling effect the water and meth have together which is highly beneficial especially on higher boost applications, not to say about the timing curve consistency across the entire year.

[AwAfrican]

Originally Posted by RJTSi So, is anyone else having some strange issues with VDyno the past week or 2? My logs are all of a sudden reading up to 100 hp/tq lower than they theoretically should be based on maf g/s and load values. The last log I have on the k04 before the swap was on 5/21 and its reading normal. All new logs done in the past week are showing extremely low values (curves are normal, just shifted waaaay down). For instance, I picked up over 50 g/s up top, and about .05 peak load so far with the CS, however VDyno is trying to tell me I've lost 50 hp/85 tq. This is on the exact same intake as before. It's also doing the same thing on another guys car I'm tuning. He's down about 50ish hp as well. Some other local guys have confirmed that they are having the same issue. So it's not just my AP, computer, or version of VD. I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it to no avail.

Glad it's not just me, using the exact SAME logs as before I'm getting around 80 lower than I was before

[nas711]

Maybe VD is actually now showing the real figures lol

[RJTSi]

Yeah it's def an issue with VD, not just the temp. I mean the car is insanely faster than before. Timing is about exactly the same as the k04 map. In fact it might be identical.

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by AwAfrican Glad it's not just me, using the exact SAME logs as before I'm getting around 80 lower than I was before

Yeah dude that's about what I'm seeing as well. It's def not the temps. I wouldn't be seeing 50 less hp on an identical intake setup, timing map, making 50 g/s more. Something in the software is different. I know he just released a phone app, so I'm not sure if anything changed there. A strange thing I noticed is if I put the final drive for 5th/6th gear (3.35) in instead of the 3rd/4th (3.941) it actually brings the curve up about axactly where it should be. (On a speed6 3rd pull.) it's got to be some sort of multiplying factor like gear ratio or something in the code. The lower the number in there, the higher it will shift your graph. I'll post the 2 logs here soon so you can clearly see that more power is being made but, showing almost 100hp down from where it should be

[mituc]

But if you load a log from before will it show lower numbers as well or the numbers it used to show?

[RJTSi]

Originally Posted by mituc But if you load a log from before will it show lower numbers as well or the numbers it used to show?

If I load my last log from the k04 which was a 3rd gear pull from 5/21 or any prior log, the numbers are on point for where they should be

[everton99]

Honest question here, and I'm not trying to start an argument, but if your K04 numbers are spot on between both versions why would your CS numbers be wrong? If you can find the older version of vDyno, download it, and plug your CS numbers in and see if it changes. If it doesn't then you could always go get on an actual dyno and see how much the numbers differ.


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[Chriss]

Today I've got the oil pipe gaskets from the dealership
And catted DP and new 02 sensors are on the way...
Base map is ready

Ready for power

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by RJTSi If I load my last log from the k04 which was a 3rd gear pull from 5/21 or any prior log, the numbers are on point for where they should be

You guys seem to be into that engine quite often, so I would suggest, just to rule this out, that you check mechanical timing.

Everyone scoffs at me when I say this, but I've seen it happen more than once, including on a car I was tuning that just finally checked this 2 weeks ago and sure enough, timing was slightly off. Once he retimed the engine, +50whp/80wtq instantly with no other changes.

On the cam topic, the most likely culprit is

1. Having the cam plate in while TQ'ing the crank bolt, causing a stress fracture in the cam.
2. Any type of binding at all when removing or installing the cam, also causing a stress fracture that later allowed it to split completely.

[shamie]

Wouldn't timing have to be significantly off for a 50whp/80wtq difference? I mean that would have to be 10-20 degrees off wouldn't it?