Battlefield 3 or Modern Warefare 3

[irishking03]

The Campaign Mode is insane. Graphics are crazy. I think the PSN sever was overlaoded last night so I didnt get a chance to play online but I will tonight.

[Ramen_Noodle]

Picked up my copy for XBOX today, probably won't get to touch it until this weekend.

[Speedin]

Originally Posted by irishking03 The Campaign Mode is insane. Graphics are crazy. I think the PSN sever was overlaoded last night so I didnt get a chance to play online but I will tonight.

I agree, the campaign has been sick so far!!!

[Mizzle]

Plan:
Wait for someone to fuck up their disc and buy it for $5.
Rent from somewhere.
Install to HDD.
Use eff'd up disc to boot from HDD.
????
PROFIT!

[irishking03]

Online is nuts. A little more realistic than BF2 but its going to need some getting use to.

[Justin Lee]

My friend brought over BF3 and so far I've enjoyed the game, I've got about 6 hours of online game play.
Here's my thoughts on it so far:

PROS:
- The graphics are nice, especially when you're in an aircraft looking down at the whole map, it's a lot to take in.
- As with all BF games the team play is top notch (if you can get people to play as a team).
- Gadgets, accessories, add-ons, all of the extras (so far) have all been done well.
- You get to operate vehicles and aircrafts, whats not to like there.
- Destructable terrain.

CONS:
- IT'S SLOOOOW PACED (the game play).
- It seems like everything you do is slow, crouching, going prone, standing, the menu screens, respawning, dying, etc.
- Inacuracy when you're pointing directly at someone and you don't hit them.
- The amount of damage you take (which is a lot) it takes so many bullets to kill someone.
- They didn't get rid of the red indicator floating above people, and there's a lot emblems & indicators all over the sceen it's too much.
- The transition from shadows and dark areas to light is PAINFUL, by painful I mean on your eyes. I assume it's their attempt to give you the sense that the suns in your eyes, or the feeling from going indoors to outdoors and your eyes adjusting, but this feeble attempt did NOT work, it's horrible and hurts the game greatly!

Final thoughts:
This is a fun game that has a great team element to it, game play is slow and feels a bit "clunky", combats not as "solid" of a feel as I would like but it makes up for it with all the different gadgets you get and vehicles and aircrafts you can control. Overall, i think this is a great game and should keep you occupied till COD MW3 comes out.

[Mizzle]

I think the complaints fall into the "too real," area, no?
I didn't know there was bullet drop when sniping for the first 5 games in the beta. I was like WHY CAN'T I SHOOT THIS GUY!? lol.

[MS3inDC]

Originally Posted by Justin Lee My friend brought over BF3 and so far I've enjoyed the game, I've got about 6 hours of online game play. Here's my thoughts on it so far: PROS: - The graphics are nice, especially when you're in an aircraft looking down at the whole map, it's a lot to take in. - As with all BF games the team play is top notch (if you can get people to play as a team). - Gadgets, accessories, add-ons, all of the extras (so far) have all been done well. - You get to operate vehicles and aircrafts, whats not to like there. - Destructable terrain. CONS: - IT'S SLOOOOW PACED (the game play). - It seems like everything you do is slow, crouching, going prone, standing, the menu screens, respawning, dying, etc. - Inacuracy when you're pointing directly at someone and you don't hit them. - The amount of damage you take (which is a lot) it takes so many bullets to kill someone. - They didn't get rid of the red indicator floating above people, and there's a lot emblems & indicators all over the sceen it's too much. - The transition from shadows and dark areas to light is PAINFUL, by painful I mean on your eyes. I assume it's their attempt to give you the sense that the suns in your eyes, or the feeling from going indoors to outdoors and your eyes adjusting, but this feeble attempt did NOT work, it's horrible and hurts the game greatly! Final thoughts: This is a fun game that has a great team element to it, game play is slow and feels a bit "clunky", combats not as "solid" of a feel as I would like but it makes up for it with all the different gadgets you get and vehicles and aircrafts you can control. Overall, i think this is a great game and should keep you occupied till COD MW3 comes out.

I agree with some but not most.

It feels clunky if you're used to playing cod, which is verging on halo speeds if you ask me. The fact that ppl actually DO jump around corners and drop to the ground as part their "strategy" diminishes cod's "realism". Try that in bf and you get blasted, like you would in real combat.

The bullet damage is great. The hardcore in bfbc2 rounds did as much damage in regular multiplayerb as they did in hardcore, so rounds hurt the same all the time. It was more so that you have less info than rounds hurting more or less; no maps, no ammo count, no kill cam, that kind of thing.

Maybe the reason you are taking half a clip too kill someone is because you're not shooting in controlled bursts? Or you're moving while you're shooting? Both oh which decrease accuracy in this game. Round placement counts for alot. And don't forget "real" ballistics. Bullets aren't shot in the vacuum of space. They do lose energy the further they travel, and they do begin to drop. They don't go on forever in a straight line like they do in cod.

I'll pick up cod when this gets old... next summer some time maybe. cod has to win me back, I'm not runnin' back...

[Justin Lee]

Originally Posted by MS3inDC I agree with some but not most. It feels clunky if you're used to playing cod, which is verging on halo speeds if you ask me. The fact that ppl actually DO jump around corners and drop to the ground as part their "strategy" diminishes cod's "realism". Try that in bf and you get blasted, like you would in real combat. The bullet damage is great. The hardcore in bfbc2 rounds did as much damage in regular multiplayerb as they did in hardcore, so rounds hurt the same all the time. It was more so that you have less info than rounds hurting more or less; no maps, no ammo count, no kill cam, that kind of thing. Maybe the reason you are taking half a clip too kill someone is because you're not shooting in controlled bursts? Or you're moving while you're shooting? Both oh which decrease accuracy in this game. Round placement counts for alot. And don't forget "real" ballistics. Bullets aren't shot in the vacuum of space. They do lose energy the further they travel, and they do begin to drop. They don't go on forever in a straight line like they do in cod. I'll pick up cod when this gets old... next summer some time maybe. cod has to win me back, I'm not runnin' back...

You have got to be shitting me on the first part.
I won't even defend this, that's just rediculous. Please go talk to a combat vet and ask them if they ever had to get up and get down very quickly.............

Dude please quit trying to make it seem like I'm confused or I don't know what I'm talking about, seriously I've been playing FPS's since the 90's. I know whether or not I'm hitting someone, and if I didn't there are handy little hit markers that let me know when I am, and it takes a freaking ton of bullets to kill someone in this game.
Case in point, if you have the base package AK47 or M16A3 (which are assault rifles = long range) anything over 3.5-4 tank lengths away takes 4-5 well controled, every round hitting, burst fires to kill someone who is at 100% health, leaving you less than half a clip.

The game just has a lot of issues it needs to address before I will be content with it. The amount of damage people take I don't care that much about it's just part of the game. The fact that it's slow paced and it takes forever for you to go prone, duck and stand is just another aspect of the game. I'm ok with all of this because it was to be expected with a BF game.

The parts I can't abide with are:
- The glitches that keep popping up, some due to the destructable environment when you shoot in certain areas after a wall has been blown up it's like theres somethig still there. Or this occasion when a guy on a staircase with a wide open railing was shooting at me through it and I was shooting back at him and neither of us were connecting from 3 feet away, as if the bullets were hitting an invisible barrier.
- And the lighting HAS to change. Why is a wide open warehouse with one of its walls blown up so dark you can hardly see in it in the middle of the day? I have adjusted my TV's settings and the in game brightness levels till I have it the best it will look, and I still have to compromise with whether I want it to be blindingly bright or where I cant see anything indoors or in shaded areas.

[apawk]

MW3 - FTW!

[TRex]

Originally Posted by Justin Lee You have got to be shitting me on the first part. I won't even defend this, that's just rediculous. Please go talk to a combat vet and ask them if they ever had to get up and get down very quickly.............

not to get into your guys argument or anything but there is difference between crouching and getting up quickly and running up to a corner and doing a jump turn around it


i believe any solider would look at you funny if you told him he should approach every corner and jump turn around it

[MS3inDC]

Originally Posted by Justin Lee You have got to be shitting me on the first part. I won't even defend this, that's just rediculous. Please go talk to a combat vet and ask them if they ever had to get up and get down very quickly............. Dude please quit trying to make it seem like I'm confused or I don't know what I'm talking about, seriously I've been playing FPS's since the 90's. I know whether or not I'm hitting someone, and if I didn't there are handy little hit markers that let me know when I am, and it takes a freaking ton of bullets to kill someone in this game. Case in point, if you have the base package AK47 or M16A3 (which are assault rifles = long range) anything over 3.5-4 tank lengths away takes 4-5 well controled, every round hitting, burst fires to kill someone who is at 100% health, leaving you less than half a clip. The game just has a lot of issues it needs to address before I will be content with it.

I can't agree because that has not been my experience with the game. Period.

And to my experience, I AM in the original video game console generation, so back to the 90s is unimpressive... Try back to the 80s... thats is just a qualifier

To your point, sometimes killing someone does take a few extra rounds

On the other hand ppl have been making this very same argument with almost every fps that I've come across... "it takes half a clip to kill someone!" "why the fuck won't he die, I unloaded a clip in him!"

All I can say to that is... lag

and you may have to defend what you said...

Originally Posted by TRex not to get into your guys argument or anything but there is difference between crouching and getting up quickly and running up to a corner and doing a jump turn around it i believe any solider would look at you funny if you told him he should approach every corner and jump turn around it

Beyond any of this, it's one thing to be critical of the game system, which won't change, and another to be critical of bugs, which can and hopefully will be fixed. the fact that you play an interactive game over the internet implies connectivity to things you don't control. Network latency is inherent. It's the internet. So quite possibly it's not a bug in the game.

The wall thing is a bug, the lighting is a bug (which I have no issue with), the railing is a bug... But the half a clip thing... deal brotha

[Justin Lee]

T-Minus: 6 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes

[dizzydtrain]

I am a big COD whore and have played pretty much all of them. I picked up Battlefield 3 for shits and giggles to pass some time before COD finally comes out and I must say that I have been having a blast. Is the game perfect? No. Is it extremely fun and a nice change of pace from COD? I would say definitely.

What I am mostly happy about it some competitions for Activision and Treyarch because their recent progress with each reiteration of the game can best be desrcibed as stagnant. Whilte it's not the worst thing in the world with COD, there are definitely things that can be improved and the new kid on the block might just force COD to step it up (probably not with this game but maybe next).

[TRex]

inb4

bad reviews for COD and then the developers claiming they were unfairly picked on just because they are goliath and BF3 is david


you heard it first here folks

[Mchart]

Who the fuck buys a battlefield game for consoles?

[TRex]

*raises hand*

[MS3inDC]

Originally Posted by TRex *raises hand*

+1

[Mchart]

DADT repeal is in effect now. You don't need to play BF on the consoles to tell everyone you're a homo.

[TRex]

lol or i dont have a game rig capable of playing the game and dont feel the need to invest another 500-800 dollars on a rig to play it when i already paid 300 for one that does just fine

[Justin Lee]

Ok, ok...

So you're telling me I just got to make it through napping all day today,
work followed by the lan party friday,
work again on saturday then hit the bar till I pass out late that night,
wake up in time to cook wings and get the Jets game on then 4pm games after that HBO's sunday line up and The Walking Dead will take the rest of the evening,
back to work till 5pm monday THEN straight to the store for the launch party tournament and at 12am I get my very own copy of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3?

Maybe I should take some cash just in case someones cheating and I don't win the tournament and the free copy.

[Mizzle]

My computer is ancient in terms of gaming (8800GT for example,) and it'll run BF3 well enough to play *shrugs*

Not that it's gonna be gorgeous, but the console versions look like shit compared to PC anyways... so if anything, you could approximate the console graphics.

[titusdrake]

bf3 waste of money when Skyrim is only 7 days away

[Mizzle]

....because bringing an RPG into a FPS vs. FPS discussion totally makes sense.

[zenger]

BFIII is glitchy right now on the PSN.

I'll run into a room and magically appear outside the room. My Stinger missile launcher is semi auto and doesn't fire missiles.... Hitboxes are so far fucked up it's unbelievable. It needs a serious update. But still it'll be better than COD just because COD never changes anything...

I like the slower pace of BF over the none stop action of COD.

Originally Posted by titusdrake bf3 waste of money when Skyrim is only 7 days away

this for realz

[feldm4n]

I personally cannot stand COD. I have tried so hard to like that game but at the end of the day I would rather be on a PC playing BF3. BF has always been PC based, just the way it is and works. I think they are to release an update to fix some issues with BF3 on consoles.

As for being a slow game, I couldn't disagree more. The point is to find yourself in a skirmish when trying to take a flag/defend. I don't know what you guys are fucken playing but I don't feel the game is slow what so ever. Sure running across a map is slow as fuck but it should be, it's a huge environment.

As for not killing someone quickly in the game and it taking four shots etc. WTF, aim for the head.....? I think the damage is spot on for a lot of shit in the game depending on distance etc. If you want life like go play Counter Strike, oh wait that works on PC best too.

I feel BF3 is a solid 9, no bullshit.

[SWAY]

I play cod BC its fun but its so unrealistic it gets old quick, battlefield is where its at for quality gameplay and strategy. If y ou wanna run and basically do a bunch of shit you shouldn't be able to cod is the game. And I'm tired of all the fucking lil kids that play cod too and think they're the shit.

[Justin Lee]

Originally Posted by SWAY I play cod BC its fun but its so unrealistic it gets old quick, battlefield is where its at for quality gameplay and strategy. If y ou wanna run and basically do a bunch of shit you shouldn't be able to cod is the game. And I'm tired of all the fucking lil kids that play cod too and think they're the shit.

So in other words you're tired of 10 year olds owning you?

Just a fun fact,
Battlefield 3 has sold a combined total of: 4.22 million copies so far.
Modern Warfare 3 has sold: 3.5 million, in preorders alone...

[SWAY]

Originally Posted by Justin Lee So in other words you're tired of 10 year olds owning you? Just a fun fact, Battlefield 3 has sold a combined total of: 4.22 million copies so far. Modern Warfare 3 has sold: 3.5 million, in preorders alone...

Yeah you might wanna check that fag cod attitude you got I don't get owned my numbers speaks for itself, I meant how they talk shit on the game.

[Sweetsandman]

Played BC3 the other day because my brother decided to buy it. It's a good game with no apparent lag/glitch issues from.what I can see. My only gripe is that in the couple matches I played in, I can immediately say there is not as much action as there is in the COD games. In COD the action is relatively consistent, even on the larger maps. In BC3 I spent a lot of time running to the action because my whole stupid team was up sniping so I had to spawn miles from anything exciting. It reminded me of Operation Flashpoint.

TapaTapaTapaTalk

[Mchart]

Yes, the 'Bad Company 3' doesn't have non-stop derp action.

[amoosenamedhank]

People always say COD is just 'running and gunning' and no strategy but I guess I don't completely agree. Not only are you strategizing but you're doing it at twice the speed.

I can't help but feel like some people who complain about COD's speed just don't have the reaction time to hang with it.

[Sweetsandman]

Originally Posted by amoosenamedhank People always say COD is just 'running and gunning' and no strategy but I guess I don't completely agree. Not only are you strategizing but you're doing it at twice the speed. I can't help but feel like some people who complain about COD's speed just don't have the reaction time to hang with it.

Run and gun is substantially more fun than the crap I saw in BC3. There is absolute NOTHING entertaining about an entire team sniping. Not that COD doesn't have it's fair share of snipers, but seemingly everyone does it in BC3 from what I experienced.

TapaTapaTapaTalk

[Justin Lee]

I don't understand why the BF faithful always have to bash COD players and start an argument. Rarely, whether it's on the internet or in person does a COD fan start the hate battle. It's like they feel like they have something to prove by bashing the most celebrated and successful game series ever (this is not my personal opinion just fact) to try and prove their point.

Myself I honestly do like BF and I always have, but at the same time I cant lie if there wasn't vehicles and planes and stuff like that it would bore me to tears. To me what makes BF good is the samething that makes it suck, the team based coopperation element. This is what makes it stand out from all other shooters, in a good way. At the same time though this aspect can also lead to a terrible experience. If you're just dropping into a match with a bunch of guys that aren't objective oriented or want to support the team it's a painful experience.

I like the fact that in COD you can still make an impact by yourself if your team is acting like idiots, but in BF this is nearly impossible.

[PheOniX]

i havent read any of the above posts. I bought bf3 for pc and its intense. the sound is crazy, the graphics are nuts, the maps are huge, the vehicles are sick, on and on

its much more tactical so you cant just run around the map with a shot gun and expect to do work. in a great game you'll put up 15 kills.

It is hard. Gravity affects bullets on long range shots, it can be hard to kill people, and its easy to die. Also sometimes you have to run long distances to find any action.

tons of guns and unlocks

I love it

[SWAY]

I must of had and excellent game the other day with 27-10 and over 6000 points then, and that was work. I average that almost every game in cod not the points just the kills.

[Mizzle]

Way more people act like idiots in COD though.

[Justin Lee]

Originally Posted by Mizzle Way more people act like idiots in COD though.

I always hear people say things like this and it is true, but I think it's an unfair assessment.

Yes there are a lot of idiots on COD, a lot of campers, a lot of younger kids, a lot of "fanboys", a lot of homosexual quickscopers, etc.

The reason this is an unfair assessment is because there are a LOT of people that play this game. Theres no more of any one type of group that play this game than others, there's just more of each group.

T-Minus: 12 hours, 35 minutes, 16 seconds

[Mizzle]

You made my point for me.
Camping = strategy. Try it sometime.

[amoosenamedhank]

Camping = boring... how can you stand to just sit in a dark corner and wait for someone to run past you... then move to the other side of the room and wait for him to come back.

That is strategy... that's just boring play from someone who is too afraid (yes video game afraid) to go out and try to beat someone on the draw. That or someone who is just padding their KD ratio.

BLOPS shows a weekly count in the lobby of peoples KD ratio's but the list is sorted by your score per minute. I always laugh when you see someone with a 2.0+ KD but a 100 points/minute.