goss' garage ms3 vs gti

[wcm250f]

not sure if this is a repost but here it is

MotorWeek: Road Test

[Lex]

They have issues with their quarter mile trap speeds.

[lenny127]

yawn

[ms3077]

They have issues with everything, you got to be retarted to take their shit seriously. Their timing device is WAY OFF. These are the same people that claimed they achieved a 5.2 0-60when every one else was getting around 6.1 -6.4. OH yeah 101mph for a stock GTI? LMFAO!

[wcm250f]

damn are you serious they said they got a 5.2 with a stock gti? thats pretty funny

[PiKA West]

Your mom's a GTI.

lol whats wrong with the review? They said the Mazdaspeed3 was better.

[wcm250f]

thats sort of what i wondered too. they got the same time for the ms3 as motortrend did for 0-60.

[ms3077]

Ever since they re did their track all the times they've recorded have been complete and utter bullshit (Motor Week). I would never relay of them for accurate test #’s. However, the actual review it self isn’t all that bad now that I’ve read it.

[wcm250f]

alright good to know that about motorweek

[-cj-]

I think everyone's talking about the fact the GTI has a higher trap speed... How can a car with 63 less hp be catching up to the MS3 at the end of the 1/4? Incredible gearing?

[ms3077]

[QUOTE=-cj-;450643]I think everyone's talking about the fact the GTI has a higher trap speed... How can a car with 63 less hp be catching up to the MS3 at the end of the 1/4? Incredible gearing?[/QUOTE]

No, by an incredible inaccurate timing device. A stock GTI wouldn’t trap 100+ in the ¼ if Jesus Christ himself drove it. Not even at Cecil! lol. Not long ago I was at the track with 2 08's GTI'S w/ DSG tranny ans APR stage 1 tune / DP/ intake, etc.. Both were running 14.3@98-99mph all night long. Very consistent but no better than a stock MS3. I understand this new GTI is a bit stronger but not that much stronger.

[BIGGERDAKINE]

Easy.. they have a 120 lb guy driving the GTI and +200 lb dude granny shifting the MS3 (hehehe). The newer GTI has cut some weight, can't say the same about the new MS3 but those trap times does seem a little off.

[ms3077]

This is funny! Did you guys catch this?

"Acceleration testing delivered an expected edge for the more powerful Mazda: this red pocket rocket romped to 60 miles per hour in a seriously-quick-for-its-size 5.6 seconds, en route to a quarter-mile time of 14.1 seconds at 109 miles per hour"

[slashsnake]

Found the article on their testing equipment...

Wii Physics - Measure your 0-60 time with a Wiimote


Actually I read a good article a while back about measuring 0-60, skidpad, 1/4 mile, slalom, etc.

It may have been edmunds (can't remember now), and talked about how they do everything stock... Full tank of gas, regular asphalt, stock tires, lowest recommended fuel (unless something else is explicitly recommended "for best performance", etc.) rather than a fuel not readily available besides the track. Also about the timing, they talked about how you can adjust times (something about a way to get a few feet of rollout before the clock starts on the 0-60, which in reality makes it a 4-60).

Never mind... here's the article.... Great read..

How We Test Cars and Trucks

[PiKA West]

Originally Posted by ms3077 This is funny! Did you guys catch this? "Acceleration testing delivered an expected edge for the more powerful Mazda: this red pocket rocket romped to 60 miles per hour in a seriously-quick-for-its-size 5.6 seconds, en route to a quarter-mile time of 14.1 seconds at 109 miles per hour"

Yea I noticed this as well so obviously one of those number is a typo and they have a shitty copy editor. You would think in a car article they would check to make sure all the numbers are correct. Because of this typo I discredit everything they have ever said!!!!!! lol

[slashsnake]

The engine specs at top got missed to

MS3

"ENGINE: 2.3-liter intercooled turbo four"

GTI

"ENGINE: 2.0-liter four"

Accidently suggests that the GTI is doing this NA.

[banditscout]

These guys are utterly incompetent. Shameful for such a well known publication.

[JS + MS3]

lol bunch of noobs running the magazine