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Reading on Jalopnik this morning and there was a writeup about the gen juan being a sleeper car on the OppositeLock subforum that made the front page. Thought I'd share. Is this anyone here?


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Some of the comments are funnier. I think the one dude was trying to say that a Shelby Mustang was a good sleeper car.
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Good article and good discussions. Seems like the author has respect for cars in general. Not gonna lie, I thought there was going to be a fanboy war in the article discussions.

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Usually the response to anything Mazdaspeed over there is apathy. Though the main writers tend to like and respect the car, it doesn't really get mentioned a lot. I think that fwd cars aren't viewed as actual performance cars by most of the readers of that blog. Until they get smoked by one on the road.
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Originally Posted by jk_ms3 View Post
Reading on Jalopnik this morning and there was a writeup about the gen juan being a sleeper car on the OppositeLock subforum that made the front page. Thought I'd share. Is this anyone here?


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That was me. I am a lurker on MSF. I have been blown away with the response the article got today. Hopefully I didn't embarrass the MS community too much!
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That was me. I am a lurker on MSF. I have been blown away with the response the article got today. Hopefully I didn't embarrass the MS community too much!
Haha! I said hi to you over there. I'm blupu4u on Jalopnik. I thought it was great to see some MS3 love over there.
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I can relate to it a bit. Take off the Mazdaspeed 3 badge and your left alone.

I don't 100% agree with the con though. 1 Set of decent looking rims and you stand out enough to a normal enthusiast, but not really to the public or cops not looking for you. It is just right in a lot of ways.

My first pic is a pretty tame looking 90mph

My 2nd pic is my car after some LSFs. Not exactly an STI wing, but stands out a bit more, but not ridiculously.
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Haha! I said hi to you over there. I'm blupu4u on Jalopnik. I thought it was great to see some MS3 love over there.
Ha, nice job dropping MSF in there! Gotta keep the community strong.

Yep this car doesn't get enough respect. Even though it was darling of the automotive press when it was released, it still doesn't get the notoriety it deserves, IMO. I remember when I was researching cars before I bought the MS3, I had never even heard of the Speed 3.
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I posted a comment on the article that my pu doesn't usually get a second look, even with the crazier styling and the bright blue color. Even at meets with other enthusiasts. The only people who seem to like my car are the cops, who I think just assume that they're pulling over some 21 year old frat boy racer wanna be (none of which describes me at all!).
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I can relate to it a bit. Take off the Mazdaspeed 3 badge and your left alone.

I don't 100% agree with the con though. 1 Set of decent looking rims and you stand out enough to a normal enthusiast, but not really to the public or cops not looking for you. It is just right in a lot of ways.

My first pic is a pretty tame looking 90mph

My 2nd pic is my car after some LSFs. Not exactly an STI wing, but stands out a bit more, but not ridiculously.
Nice looking car!

Yeah, like I said, it really is a paradox. Flying below the radar is very nice and my driving record appreciates it, but the childish part of me wants it to shout, "Look at me! This car is fast! WOOOSH!"

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I posted a comment on the article that my pu doesn't usually get a second look, even with the crazier styling and the bright blue color. Even at meets with other enthusiasts. The only people who seem to like my car are the cops, who I think just assume that they're pulling over some 21 year old frat boy racer wanna be (none of which describes me at all!).
I was really surprised to hear that the Genpu didn't garner more attention. To me a hood scoop is a dead giveaway of a sporty vehicle. I mean hell, why did pontiac stick so many fake ones on their cars?

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I posted a comment on the article that my pu doesn't usually get a second look, even with the crazier styling and the bright blue color. Even at meets with other enthusiasts. The only people who seem to like my car are the cops, who I think just assume that they're pulling over some 21 year old frat boy racer wanna be (none of which describes me at all!).
My cop neighbor had no idea about the MS3 until I let him drive it... he got into it in 3rd and said wow....
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I was really surprised to hear that the Genpu didn't garner more attention. To me a hood scoop is a dead giveaway of a sporty vehicle. I mean hell, why did pontiac stick so many fake ones on their cars?
It's a little frustrating, honestly. I think that most people just don't care about cars one way or the other, and people who do care don't really know too much about the ms3 because it's not as ubiquitous as a WRX or GTI.
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It's a little frustrating, honestly. I think that most people just don't care about cars one way or the other, and people who do care don't really know too much about the ms3 because it's not as ubiquitous as a WRX or GTI.
Good point.

I think the relatively low sales numbers plays a big role. I still get very excited when I see another MS3. I would be amazed if the MS3 sold a 1/10th as much as the GTI.
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Good point.

I think the relatively low sales numbers plays a big role. I still get very excited when I see another MS3. I would be amazed if the MS3 sold a 1/10th as much as the GTI.
I can go days and not see another ms3 on the road.
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I'm a stalker of fog lights, wheels, and tail pipes on anything genwon looking....I usually end up seeing a 2.3 on the side and carry on disappointed. Bitches do love turbo wagons tho!
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Originally Posted by SR388 View Post
Yep this car doesn't get enough respect. Even though it was darling of the automotive press when it was released, it still doesn't get the notoriety it deserves, IMO. I remember when I was researching cars before I bought the MS3, I had never even heard of the Speed 3.
I hear ya on the respect part, for me I saw the MS3 in 2007 and decided I would buy one once they hit the magic 4-5 year old mark, where the price goes down by half, but you can still find nice low mileage examples pretty easily. Got my 2008 for 1/2 the original price, with only 42k miles on it, I'm a happy commuter now.
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I'm a stalker of fog lights, wheels, and tail pipes on anything genwon looking....I usually end up seeing a 2.3 on the side and carry on disappointed. Bitches do love turbo wagons tho!
The hood on the gen 1 is the biggest give away for me if spotted from the front or side. Obviously the same goes for the pu.

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I'm a stalker of fog lights, wheels, and tail pipes on anything genwon looking....I usually end up seeing a 2.3 on the side and carry on disappointed. Bitches do love turbo wagons tho!
Ha, the same thing happens to me. I owned 2006 3s before upgrading to a 2007 Mazdaspeed 3, and I'd always look for those badges. I'd get slightly disappointed driving by other 3's without the badge. I don't see very many speeds around (I see a lot of regular 3's everywhere I go though). I'll go days and/or weeks before seeing other speed 3's. I do exclude a guy that parks his at the airport customer parking every week, since that parking lot is like his home.

Do the newer 3's still put badges on the side? I haven't been noticing any on the newest generation... unless I haven't seen any of the ones with the larger engines.
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Ha, the same thing happens to me. I owned 2006 3s before upgrading to a 2007 Mazdaspeed 3, and I'd always look for those badges. I'd get slightly disappointed driving by other 3's without the badge. I don't see very many speeds around (I see a lot of regular 3's everywhere I go though). I'll go days and/or weeks before seeing other speed 3's. I do exclude a guy that parks his at the airport customer parking every week, since that parking lot is like his home.

Do the newer 3's still put badges on the side? I haven't been noticing any on the newest generation... unless I haven't seen any of the ones with the larger engines.
I used to have a 2010 2.5 and it only had a badge on the back.

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Maybe it's just a NorCal thing - but I've seen plenty of speeds around here in the bay area... unfortunately most are painfully stock or riced out to living hell.

However, when I went on vacation last month - traveling through AZ, NJ and FL I didn't see a single MS3... and we did a significant amount of driving around. lol
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I get the pain of a sleeper. I want people to whistle at my car too, but no one sees anything but a silver sedan. It's a 07 speed 6 with enkei raijin wheels. I love the car but a black camaro would be prettier to look at.
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I took some asshat in a new vette yesterday; a double left turn headed to a single right, the correct lane for this is the right lane, everyone lined up there except mister revving it at the red vette... It was clear that he was going to race ahead and cut me off, except that's not how it worked... after having to drop in behind me for the right turn he cut across three lanes of traffic to show me how fast his vette was, plenty fast and plenty rude. Right or wrong I would not have gotten away with that in anything but a sleeper... And for me that's the point, big stick with little attention given; I know which would be chosen by the local PD


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Haha, this comment had me rolling....

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I get the pain of a sleeper. I want people to whistle at my car too, but no one sees anything but a silver sedan. It's a 07 speed 6 with enkei raijin wheels. I love the car but a black camaro would be prettier to look at.
Camaro SS critique:

Me: "Too bad that sloppy fat curb weight and gun slit visibility out of the car makes it such a bloated non-drivers car."

My 17 year old daughter: "OMG I want one of those soooo bad!"

Yep, there's a reason people will pay more for a red Italian supercar than a ZR1.
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Here's my car on the freeway at 75 mph... sleeper.. meh.. i guess.. cops give zero fucks about it and very people engage.
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Camaro SS critique:

Me: "Too bad that sloppy fat curb weight and gun slit visibility out of the car makes it such a bloated non-drivers car."

My 17 year old daughter: "OMG I want one of those soooo bad!"

Yep, there's a reason people will pay more for a red Italian supercar than a ZR1.
Oh yeah the inside sucks. The camaro is not designed as a drivers car, aestheticly speaking anyway.
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Here's my car on the freeway at 75 mph... sleeper.. meh.. i guess.. cops give zero fucks about it and very people engage.

Is that on the I-5 north near Camp Pendleton?
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Is that on the I-5 north near Camp Pendleton?
Yeah, about a mile before the boobs
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Nobody recognizes the MS3 where I live. If I want to be noticed I have to drive like an asshole. Guys around here say stickers are magnets for races, but I can't bring myself to go that route.

Down the road I could see a slightly louder than stock exhaust and a louder BOV if I want to attract attention, but not before I put money into power mods to back it up.
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Yeah, about a mile before the boobs
My grandpa helped design those boobs


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My grandpa helped design those boobs


It's times like this that make me miss SD
Boobs are going away.. plants done.
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Haha! I knew exactly where you were talking about. God I miss so cal...
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Boobs are going away.. plants done.
Didnt they have a melt down scare not too long ago?
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Oh yeah the inside sucks. The camaro is not designed as a drivers car, aestheticly speaking anyway.
I work for a rental car company and they are the worst vehicle I have been in with regards to visibility! I haven't been in the convertible for a while, but if my memory serves me right, they are even worse to see out of when the top is up than the coupe.
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Default MS3 is a sleeper on OppositeLock

I love the anonymity of the car. Around here at least it seems a lot of people I've run into don't even know a boosted version of the 3 exists. I also like driving something that I don't see a dozen a day of like the wrx or gti. Even if the general public just thinks it's another Mazda grocery getter.


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