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For whatever reason, it is difficult to search our forums for 3 letter words such as oil, and UOA (used oil analysis), so it was asked that someone create a thread compiling decent oil information for our cars.

Below is a collection of links found on msf (and now other reputable sites) that are oil related.

There is also a link to what is thought as the most informative oil website that I know of, "Bob is the Oil Guy .com".




Dealer Oil Changes dealership oil change discussion


2010 Oil Analysis oil discussion and uoa results

ZDDP lacking in modern oil oil ingredient / component discussion



What kind of oil? oil discussion

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...d-3-iyo-18303/ oil discussion

Response from Pennzoil on Ultra - Bob Is The Oil Guy - pennzoil's explanation of ultra vs. platinum (Bob is the oil guy link)

FerrariChat.com - FAQ: Motor Oil Articles by Dr. Ali E. Haas (AEHaas) - thanks to username nindoja, mathematical oil analysis

Motor Oil - All Chapters, Inclusive -Copy and Save This - FerrariChat.com - Dr. Haas's credentials (provided by username mzr165)

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I know it's not on MSF, but this link has some really great analysis of motor oil.

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The guy has basically tested everything out there, and even uses math to prove his points! *gasp*
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Originally Posted by nindoja View Post
I know it's not on MSF, but this link has some really great analysis of motor oil.

FerrariChat.com - FAQ: Motor Oil Articles by Dr. Ali E. Haas (AEHaas)

The guy has basically tested everything out there, and even uses math to prove his points! *gasp*
Thanks very much nindoja.

I'm adding the link you provided to the OP.

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Originally Posted by nindoja View Post
I know it's not on MSF, but this link has some really great analysis of motor oil.

FerrariChat.com - FAQ: Motor Oil Articles by Dr. Ali E. Haas (AEHaas)

The guy has basically tested everything out there, and even uses math to prove his points! *gasp*
The site below has the same info as nindoja, but has some of Dr. Haas's credentials included in the beginning.

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Originally Posted by MZR165 View Post
The site below has the same info as nindoja, but has some of Dr. Haas's credentials included in the beginning.

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Adding to OP. Thanks very much for the contribution!

The Dr's credentials definitely add credibility to the thread.
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I plan on switching to this my next oil change. Penn Grade 1 High Performance Oil

I'm still debating on 10w-40 or 10w-30.

Brad Penn "Green Oil" is supposed to be some of the best stuff around. I'll give a further review vs. Pennzoil Platinum in a separate thread you can link here after the switch.
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I plan on switching to this my next oil change. Penn Grade 1 High Performance Oil

I'm still debating on 10w-40 or 10w-30.
I know you are familiar with the Evo world, and Forced Performance highly recommends Brad Penn.

Check out that Zddp in modern oil thread (started by Lex) above.

There is a link to a test of oils performed by Forced Performance (white paper Ziggo reminded me of).
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Originally Posted by rfinkle2 View Post
I know you are familiar with the Evo world, and Forced Performance highly recommends Brad Penn.

Check out that Zddp in modern oil thread (started by Lex) above.

There is a link to a test of oils performed by Forced Performance (white paper Ziggo reminded me of).
Will do, thanks. The 2.1 stroker running an FP Black I'm building now will be running Brad Penn 20w-50 (off topic yes but cool none the less LOL)
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I don't know who is copying who, but Dr. Haas and Bob the Oil Guy have exactly the same write up's about oil! It's all very good information, but someone is guilty of plagiarism.

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Um, read the bob link. "by AE Haas"
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Um, read the bob link. "by AE Haas"
Ok....I didn't read the fine print! Gotta give me a little break, I'm looking through tri-focals! lol
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Great thread Rob, ton of good info.
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I just installed a oil temp and pressure gauges.
What temp does my oil need to be at before i can shut off my car safely to prevent turbo damage?
I tried searching but was unable to find a result.
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It's not the hot oil that damages the turbo, it's the hot turbo itself. That's why you need to drive normally for at least 2-3 minutes after a long/agitated drive before you shut your car off.
The turbo heats up quite a lot from the exhaust gasses (mostly) and some components can reach easily 1200-1400F (even 1500-1600). On the other hand the oil should always be at the operating temperature. Keeping the engine running for a few minutes before shutting the car off will simply bring the turbo temperature down to the oil/coolant temperature (or close).
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Picking up Pennzoil 5-30 ultra for my next change. Will verify if it is a huge step up from Mobil-1 EP 5-30
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Bumping lots of old threads with stupid comments.

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Oh come on, he's been here for a few years now and obviously isn't a noob.
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I got this UOA done last oil change. The oil used was BG Products full synthetic line. Been a while since I've researched what all that means, but I figured I would share this for the people that can interpret the information.

The oil was changed and analyzed after 4800 miles of use.

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I'm hoping this oil suits our platform well. I did some research, but still don't know how to determine what some of those numbers mean.

Anyone?

Apparently BG Products will warranty any components you use their products in so long as you fall within certain guidelines. I plan on using their tranny fluid as well and will post pros/cons afterward.

I have always been a fan of their 44k, so we will see how well their other products work.
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T6 has been said, the thread is over, hence /thread
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