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cletusb 04-02-2013 10:44 PM

Stuffed a motor, what options do we have
 
Hi Guys

Hope you can help my old man out and give me some good news, he has a CX7 and 4 months since his last service he was going down the highway and noticed a CEL... long story shot turns out his motor had no oil in at at all.

He took it to the dealer and they have told him (more or less quoting) that "there was a lot of oil in the induction system / intake caused by blow by as they took the oil cap off and heard/smelt fumes or something, compression test showed 1 and 4 were around 150/160, 2 and 3 were 120-something and 108! Suspect ring and/or pistons are damaged"

They have pretty much told him it is not worth fixing as he will be looking at a $10k repair bill for a replacement engine, car is 3 years out of warranty but has always been serviced at a Mazda dealer at the correct times.

They did tell my dad that you can not rebuild the engine because you can not bore/hone the aluminum block etc and it was a "throw away"

Car currently runs OK-ish now it has oil in it, I just want to know what the best option $$$ wise is, should he drive it to it blows up and sell for parts, swap the engine (used or built block?), build the current engine etc etc (Not sure there is any place around that has built a Mazda DISI engine tho)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Help me MSF wan kenobi your my only hope :)

ciezczak1 04-02-2013 10:47 PM

Obv the dealer was bullshitting you. The block is aluminum andd the cylinder wallsvare made of something else I believe atm I am getting mine bored out for bigger pistons and if you join nator in your area maybe they will help you rebuild it.

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jmhinkle 04-02-2013 10:51 PM

Motor is not a throw away. He can pull it and have it machined. They make .020 over pistons for the motor. A lot of us have gone this route. Get it built and take care of it properly (not at the dealer).

ciezczak1 04-02-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jmhinkle (Post 1982713)
Motor is not a throw away. He can pull it and have it machined. They make .020 over pistons for the motor. A lot of us have gone this route. Get it built and take care of it properly (not at the dealer).

Lol just pretty much reworded what I said lol

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cletusb 04-02-2013 11:06 PM

Yeah I knew the dealer was full of it when he said it could not be rebuilt
My old man isn't power hungry so just really seeing if he us better of moving on or rebuild etc

jmhinkle 04-02-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ciezczak1 (Post 1982725)
Lol just pretty much reworded what I said lol

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Sorry, I couldn't make out what you were trying to say with all those illegible words.

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Originally Posted by cletusb (Post 1982738)
Yeah I knew the dealer was full of it when he said it could not be rebuilt
My old man isn't power hungry so just really seeing if he us better of moving on or rebuild etc

All in the condition of the vehicle. If the rest of it is in great shape, you can get away with about 3g's of nice rebuild and run for a long time. If the thing is trashed, then walk away.

cletusb 04-02-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jmhinkle (Post 1982770)

All in the condition of the vehicle. If the rest of it is in great shape, you can get away with about 3g's of nice rebuild and run for a long time. If the thing is trashed, then walk away.

Would that be $3k parts or parts and labour? I would think getting someone to pull and reinstall an engine would get costly

jmhinkle 04-02-2013 11:59 PM

Parts and machine shop work on the engine. Do the swapping yourself. Of course, choice of parts will either raise or lower the parts.

cletusb 04-03-2013 12:04 AM

Thanks @jmhinkle;

Would have to buy cranes etc to DIY, given the extra cost of tools etc would it be better just getting a shop to do the swap>

jmhinkle 04-03-2013 12:07 AM

Harbor freight hoist and engine stand is cheap. Look for one on CL to save money or sell it on CL when done to recoup some money. If you don't have the tools, well I can't help you. I couldn't make it a day without the amount of tools I have.

Too use the mention it is @ thename ;

Micha 04-03-2013 12:11 AM

Cletus, where exactly do you live?

cletusb 04-03-2013 12:15 AM

All the major hand/power tools I have etc, just anything that is special to putting a motor together I don't have, will to buy them tho as tools always come in handy


I'm in Australia, so no real NATOR type group down here that I know of unfortunately

jmhinkle 04-03-2013 12:23 AM

Oh shit, lol. Didn't notice that part. There are a bunch of Aussie guys floating around here though. They might have a Nator section. The only special tools you need are a torque wrench, piston ring compressor and a torque to angle gauge. Except for a good torque wrench, the other ones shouldn't be very expensive at all.

Here ya go, Nator OZ even though it doesn't seem to be active. lol

theurgy 04-03-2013 12:26 AM

Mighty Car Mod guys?

DamagedGoods 04-03-2013 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by theurgy (Post 1982815)
Mighty Car Mod guys?

Moog!


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