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[curlyface]

Preface:
If I'm retarded and a solution exists that doesn't require me to solder wires groan me to death or something.

Now..

Seriously, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but this is rediculous. My AP is taking a fucking beating from unplugging and plugging it back in every single time. I love this thing but I need it to turn off. Seriously, how hard is it to make an option for that? Here are my solutions:

1. The AP KNOWS when the car is turned off. Why is there no option on screen that asks if I want the AP to turn off?
2. Include an on/off button on the OBDII port you guys provide. Seriously, make it once, charge more for it, whatever.
3. Tell US what we can do that relatively easy for this to happen.

Seriously, you guys make the best tuning software for 10+ cars. How has such a design flaw which is seemingly not too hard to fix been overlooked for so long? My AP's port is loose and coming apart and I don't believe that is covered by warranty. I paid $600 for a device which can literally re-program the brain of my car but can't turn itself off?


PLEASE find a solution for this. I have searched up and down and short of paying $100 to get this custom fabbed there is no solution. My AP will not make it much longer at this rate.

/rant still love you guys.

[SofaKingAwesome]

On/Off is super easy and free.
Unplug the AP you lazy fuck.

[curlyface]

Yeah, an extremely expensive and complex device falling apart on me because it can't turn itself off makes me a lazy fuck.

Thanks for the advice, retard.

[trf5000]

Not this fucking guy again.

[curlyface]

I love the idiots on this forum.

I am formally requesting something for which there have been numerous threads on on this forum alone and you idiots are pretending like I'm some dumbass asking for COBB to make my car fly. Fuck off.

If this thread doesn't help your cause then so be it, you're welcome to unplug your shit even when a solution is ready, although we all know you'll thank god it was finally implemented. But there are a shit load of people on this forum who have already complained, have come up with soldering solutions, or are working on one.

[SofaKingAwesome]

Here you go Dildo Faggins, you should be able to adapt this to do what you want.
Faggot.
HOW-TO: Dashhawk Y-Splitter with AccessPORT
Only took me 5 seconds of searching.

[p057]

I'll bite because i got a date tonight with a hottie tonight so I feel extra nice.


Go get a cheap, long USB cable, cut back some of the sheath near the mini-usb end (about 2 or so feet) and find the black wire. You only need to do this to the black wire, but that's why we're getting a cheap USB cable to test with. Cut that black wire

Buy a cheap toggle switch from walmart or any store with car electrical isle. Connect both ends of those wires to each end of the toggle. Switch on to allow ground and connect the device, switch off to disconnect ground and power-no-more.

If you want an auto switch, use a relay instead. use ignition as 12v source or the cig lighter. That way you dont need a dumb looking toggle switch, you just tee-in the relay and it looks a little nicer.

obviously use electrical tape and wrap everything up so it doesn't look as horrible.

Hope that helps. Good luck! (yes i used to do lots of ghetto things with switches and relays back years ago so I like doing fire hazards in my car)

[SofaKingAwesome]

Originally Posted by curlyface I love the idiots on this forum. I am formally requesting something for which there have been numerous threads on on this forum alone and you idiots are pretending like I'm some dumbass asking for COBB to make my car fly. Fuck off. If this thread doesn't help your cause then so be it, you're welcome to unplug your shit even when a solution is ready, although we all know you'll thank god it was finally implemented. But there are a shit load of people on this forum who have already complained, have come up with soldering solutions, or are working on one.

You ARE one of those idots.

Formal requests for enhancements go here

[trf5000]

Dude, its the interwebz. You get butthurt more than a hooker in an anal sex competition.

I think what you have brought up has been communicated back to COBB on number occasions. If you are having issues with your AP because of uplugging it constantly, shoot their customer service an email. They are really good and will take care of you I'm sure.

Edit* Others beat me to it lol.

[p057]

Originally Posted by trf5000 Dude, its the interwebz. You get butthurt more than a hooker in an anal sex competition. I think what you have brought up has been communicated back to COBB on number occasions. If you are having issues with your AP because of uplugging it constantly, shoot their customer service an email. They are really good and will take care of you I'm sure. Edit* Others beat me to it lol.

It's not that it's unplugging constantly, he just wants a way to turn it off while plugged into the car because the port on the AP itself is wearing out.

You need to be gentle. your girlfriend may like the port abuse, but she can heal from that. Cheap plastic does not heal.

[trf5000]

Originally Posted by p057 It's not that it's unplugging constantly, he just wants a way to turn it off while plugged into the car because the port on the AP itself is wearing out. You need to be gentle. your girlfriend may like the port abuse, but she can heal from that. Cheap plastic does not heal.

I have never heard or seen of it, but I am sure COBB would fix it for him.

[curlyface]

I think that ends your retarded argument there. Thanks for coming out champ.

P057, thank you for a response that doesn't suck. I will try your method out.

I was hoping others here who have AP's would support the cause because this was a formal request vs others trying to come up with solutions themselves. Even if you don't care why wouldn't you support enhanced features on a device you own?

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome Here you go Dildo Faggins, you should be able to adapt this to do what you want. Faggot. HOW-TO: Dashhawk Y-Splitter with AccessPORT Only took me 5 seconds of searching.

Originally Posted by curlyface Preface: If I'm retarded and a solution exists that doesn't require me to solder wires groan me to death or something. Now.. Seriously, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but this is rediculous. My AP is taking a fucking beating from unplugging and plugging it back in every single time. I love this thing but I need it to turn off. Seriously, how hard is it to make an option for that? Here are my solutions: 1. The AP KNOWS when the car is turned off. Why is there no option on screen that asks if I want the AP to turn off? 2. Include an on/off button on the OBDII port you guys provide. Seriously, make it once, charge more for it, whatever. 3. Tell US what we can do that relatively easy for this to happen. Seriously, you guys make the best tuning software for 10+ cars. How has such a design flaw which is seemingly not too hard to fix been overlooked for so long? My AP's port is loose and coming apart and I don't believe that is covered by warranty. I paid $600 for a device which can literally re-program the brain of my car but can't turn itself off? PLEASE find a solution for this. I have searched up and down and short of paying $100 to get this custom fabbed there is no solution. My AP will not make it much longer at this rate. /rant still love you guys.

[SofaKingAwesome]

Originally Posted by curlyface I think that ends your retarded argument there. Thanks for coming out champ. P057, thank you for a response that doesn't suck. I will try your method out. I was hoping others here who have AP's would support the cause because this was a formal request vs others trying to come up with solutions themselves. Even if you don't care why wouldn't you support enhanced features on a device you own?

LMFAO. Use a butt connector, or just twist the damn wires together you pathetic little fuck. Do yourself and don't start dicking with things you don't understand.

[p057]

I was going to say just twist the wires together. you shouldn't really have anything tugging at them, but soldering just makes sure it's a good connection that'll hold better.

This doesn't require a ton of electrical knowledge or work. find out how a SPST relay works, what to put on each prong, crimp a spade connector and attach to relay. tuck relay behind dash or under chair or whatever. Make sure to wrap the exposed metal in electrical tape too.

should be good little couple-hour project for a weekend.

[Mistersix]

p057

Does wiring in a switch to the black wire in a usb cable, as you suggested, interfere with flashing maps? Given you leave it in the on position, obviously.

Could one use a simple rocker switch from radioshack?

[jamesr242]

I'd like to see this happen because I've totally drained my battery a couple times. Yeah, "just unplug it, lazy" blah blah blah. 99% of the time I do, but that 1% blows. Just plugged in for 14 hours overnight drains the batter to the point you can't even unlock the doors.

I'm not going to hold my breath on Cobb actually doing anything about this though. Seem like it's been a problem forever. I can't fathom how a tiny AP can drain the battery so quickly though.

[p057]

this is my ghettorific rendition of what you need to do for a physical switch. Note this is the easiest way, albeit manual and probably more annoying:
Relayed "auto version" located here in post 31 below: On/Off


get one of these cables:

Amazon.com: C2G / Cables to Go 27005 USB 2.0 A to Mini-B Cable, Black (2 Meter/6.56 Feet): Electronics

Amazon.com: C2G / Cables to Go 27005 USB 2.0 A to Mini-B Cable, Black (2 Meter/6.56 Feet): Electronics
Amazon.com: C2G / Cables to Go 27005 USB 2.0 A to Mini-B Cable, Black (2 Meter/6.56 Feet): Electronics

[rfinkle2]

The effort is appreciated, but the obdII doesn't power and connect the AP through the usb port unless you are using it in pass through mode with your lap top.

[p057]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 The effort is appreciated, but the obdII doesn't power and connect the AP through the usb port unless you are using it in pass through mode with your lap top.

Lol what? yes it does.
Unless I lost a few brain cells recently, the USB cable is what connects the dongle on the OBD2 port to my AP?

I think i have the cable going the wrong direction, but it doesnt matter, same principle..




Oh, lol. I see whats going on here.

OK, this only works for OLD versions of the AP. the one that uses the AP + usb cable + OBD2 dongle.
"new" APs use just a special OBD2 cable that connects right up to the AP and the OBD2 port



So if you have this:



good



if you have this:



you're on your own.

[rfinkle2]

Exactly. Sorry for the confusion. I assumed you had the second version.

The other dongle is still available but is $89.00 on the Cobb site.

curlyface, do you unplug the AP @ the OBDII port or @ the AP itself.

I always unplug @ the AP itself and don't notice any excess wear from doing it that way.

[p057]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Exactly. Sorry for the confusion. I assumed you had the second version. The other dongle is still available but is $89.00 on the Cobb site. curlyface, do you unplug the AP @ the OBDII port or @ the AP itself. I always unplug @ the AP itself and don't notice any excess wear from doing it that way.

I think that's where he was having issues.
I know that my dongle's OBD2-side port was getting flakey and crap, so what I did (because I also have a Dashhawk that I prefer running over the AP) is that I bought an OBD2 port splitter.

I unclipped the car's OBD2 port from the frame, tucked it up inside the steering column/dash area and zip-tied it to some other cables loosely. The Y-split feeds to the AP dongle which is ziptied up HARD for a super-solid connection and a LONG A-B USB mini cable is fed through the center console and around to the inside of my elbow rest. That feeds to my AP.
The other connection feeds around to the Dashhawk, which is fed through the right side of my dash and up on top of the console near my boost gauge.

Now I never unplug anything, data communications aren't ever lost anymore through sharp turns or hard bumps while logging or just data viewing, and the only thing I have to do to switch is just lightly unplug my Dashhawk cable from the back to kill the power. Maybe one day i'll set up a four-way master switch for the two units to keep me from unplugging the back of the DH too.

lol.

[Mistersix]

Good deal. I wanna get on this soon. I actually wanna use the blank button below the ambient temp button for a factory look. Maybe even find a wee little cobb logo to put on it.

[p057]

oh and note for people who may not be aware: do not extend any USB cable beyond 5 meters (~16 feet)... Possible data/power issues and you really don't need this much cable.

[curlyface]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Exactly. Sorry for the confusion. I assumed you had the second version. The other dongle is still available but is $89.00 on the Cobb site. curlyface, do you unplug the AP @ the OBDII port or @ the AP itself. I always unplug @ the AP itself and don't notice any excess wear from doing it that way.

I unplug it from the AP side, not OBDII, and I do it super carefully but a 2 year old device being plugged and unplugged everyday wears out.

[p057]

Originally Posted by curlyface I unplug it from the AP side, not OBDII, and I do it super carefully but a 2 year old device being plugged and unplugged everyday wears out.

you have version 1 or 2?

[jamesr242]

I think I might attempt to wire something up on this. My only hesitation is that I would have to splice the harness going to the OBDII connector.

My though was to splice the power going to the OBDII port to a relay that turns on and off with the car. Have a switch to bypass the relay and allow for constant power (even while off) for flashing maps.

No one has ever attempted this?

[p057]

Originally Posted by jamesr242 I think I might attempt to wire something up on this. My only hesitation is that I would have to splice the harness going to the OBDII connector. My though was to splice the power going to the OBDII port to a relay that turns on and off with the car. Have a switch to bypass the relay and allow for constant power (even while off) for flashing maps. No one has ever attempted this?

I'd rather experiment with splicing something cheaper than that. buy an OBD2 cable extender OR y-splitter. Way cheaper than having to replace some of these other cables.

Amazon.com: OBDII Extension Cable, 5ft (144201): Automotive

Amazon.com: OBDII Extension Cable, 5ft (144201): Automotive
Amazon.com: OBDII Extension Cable, 5ft (144201): Automotive

[MSFer87]

Don't be a gina.............just burn the fuck out of your LCD screen like all of us.

[jamesr242]

Originally Posted by p057 I'd rather experiment with splicing something cheaper than that. buy an OBD2 cable extender OR y-splitter. Way cheaper than having to replace some of these other cables.

True, true. I'm just trying to think of how I would make it look clean. Don't really want a rats nest of wires and switches lying out.

Originally Posted by MSFer87 Don't be a gina.............just burn the fuck out of your LCD screen like all of us.

I totally would but leaving in on overnight = dead battery.

I'm beginning to think something is wrong with mine or something. How long can you guys leave yours plugged in without killing the car?

[p057]

Originally Posted by jamesr242 True, true. I'm just trying to think of how I would make it look clean. Don't really want a rats nest of wires and switches lying out. I totally would but leaving in on overnight = dead battery. I'm beginning to think something is wrong with mine or something. How long can you guys leave yours plugged in without killing the car?

I never leave mine plugged in. I use the dashhawk, which turns off after the ignition is cut.
AP just sucks for monitoring, honestly. And it kills my red themed feng shui.



I also forgot to add for the electrically inclined, you could add in auto turn-on//shut-off with a bosch 4-pin relay.

I'll post that up later. I think that was something i was supposed to send curlyface a long time ago but I got distracted and forgot at some point.

[p057]

this is to use relay vs toggle switch. If you don't mind a little extra wiring and crap.
This way it only turns on with the car, no switch required, and you can hide 90% of the cabling behind your dash.

NOTE: You can use either 4-pin or 5-pin relays OK. Just obviously not use the 5th pin (87a), as we won't need it. Get whatever you can grab easily.






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