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Well I did a compression test about a month ago and cylinder 2 was at 90 and 3 was at 110. So after doing some reading and talking with a couple people figured it was my ringlands. I was emptying my SSP OCC once a week.

Been driving the car very easy for the past month. Finally saved up enough cash for my parts, $2200 worth, and on the way home the car finally started to give out, smoking like Bob Marley and sputering like a little bitch. I am hoping it will get my to my mechanic tomorrow. Here is a video I made earlier tonight.

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Here is a list of all the parts I ordered. I believe I got everything thanks to Alan at EdgeAutoSports.

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I have a friend that is going to take the engine out and take it to the machine shop and then re-install. I will try to get as many pics of the build as I can. Machine shop is also going to port and polish so I cannot wait.

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I gotta come up and see this when its done! Sucks that happened but its going to be killer after this. Good luck with everything!
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Ugh, you ordered bearings before you knew what size you needed? pistons, too, I assume. That FORCES you to have machine work performed when it may not be necessary. Did edge recommend going that way?
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Ugh, you ordered bearings before you knew what size you needed? pistons, too, I assume. That FORCES you to have machine work performed when it may not be necessary. Did edge recommend going that way?
I think he wanted to reduce downtime. I would have cracked the motor open first.

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I think he wanted to reduce downtime. I would have cracked the motor open first.
I agree, and I understand the dilemma with downtime. It's a different story if that's the case.
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Yea, its my daily driver and down time is very important. Besides, since the engine will be out and it already has 75k miles on it, I wanted everything just done at one time. I planned having machine work done on the block and cylinder head anyway so hopefully I don't have to worry about this shit for another 75-100 miles.
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Goodies are in and engine comes out next week.

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lol exactly. Now I dont have to worry. lol wanna buy my turbo....
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We're about to have a lot more quickness with our guys! With @Smelson going BT and @Mikey going forged while already having BT, ethanol and methanol, those cars at the Southlake meet better watch out!

Slow K04 on ethanol is slow... I need a BNR or better!

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Im aiming for king of the k04's so you guys dont have to worry about me for a while

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Trying to regain your crown, eh? @TheFlash has been true to his name... Quite quick. How's the re-tuning coming along?

You know, to secure and keep the K04 crown, there's nothing like meth... since the K04's the limiting factor Apparently you can get close to 350whp with eth/meth on a K04.
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Trying to regain your crown, eh? @TheFlash has been true to his name... Quite quick. How's the re-tuning coming along?

You know, to secure and keep the K04 crown, there's nothing like meth... since the K04's the limiting factor Apparently you can get close to 350whp with eth/meth on a K04.
I want to do it without meth

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Yeah, I hear ya. I don't like the feeling that I have another fuel tank I have to worry about filling up. It seems like it'd be pretty involved to remove if I ever have major issues and need to take it in on my 100,000 mile warranty too.
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We're about to have a lot more quickness with our guys! With @Smelson going BT and @Mikey going forged while already having BT, ethanol and methanol, those cars at the Southlake meet better watch out!

Slow K04 on ethanol is slow... I need a BNR or better!
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lmao i was telling Zach to by GT3071 and you are a pussy for no meth...



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lmao i was telling Zach to by GT3071 and you are a pussy for no meth...



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would like to go up to the gtx3071 since I will be built, if I can sell mine. If I dont I will just keep mine.
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would like to go up to the gtx3071 since I will be built, if I can sell mine. If I dont I will just keep mine.
If you put your 3071 up on here, it'll be gone quick! "If" you can sell yours, you say--ha! That thing will be gone fast, I'll bet!
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I hope so but either way if it whoops Z's ass like it did when i first pu it on before my zzb then i will be happy
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I hope so but either way if it whoops Z's ass like it did when i first pu it on before my zzb then i will be happy
How many miles are on the turbo?
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between 2500-3,000
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between 2500-3,000
Oh gosh, that thing's barely broken-in. When the build's all done you'll be pulling harder than ever, I'm sure. And if Atvfreek can get 417 on his BNR with eth and meth, I'm sure he can hit 450 with your 3071.
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and you can get 380-400 with mine.
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and you can get 380-400 with mine.
For sure. I'd tune it for maybe 375 or so... Maybe daily driver it at 350...
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For sure. I'd tune it for maybe 375 or so... Maybe daily driver it at 350...
Weak...lol


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Weak...lol


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What you call weak I'd call wise. Tuning for much more than that on stock engine internals turns the engine into a ticking time bomb! Despite what may have been thought or said, I tune for safety! Or, at least reliability...
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What you call weak I'd call wise. Tuning for much more than that on stock engine internals turns the engine into a ticking time bomb! Despite what may have been thought or said, I tune for safety! Or, at least reliability...
We all know you're the wise one. Both of our cars are ticking time bombs now despite what you may think wise one.


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We all know you're the wise one. Both of our cars are ticking time bombs now despite what you may think wise one.


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Say it ain't so! I don't want any of our cars to blow up!
I don't need to explain it to you but we are running BT non built torque, some cases even more. To think our cars are safe is silly.


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Throw some rods. Then rebuilt.

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I definitely don't think we're running "safe mode" tunes. But I also don't think it's merely a matter of time until Zoom Zoom Boom. My torque peak's at 4k! Now, if it were at 3k and I regularly went WOT at 2k, that would be much more foolish. I just try to keep things at about 21 or so psi no earlier than 3500rpms with 380 or less max torque at 4k. I get these numbers from the "safe" tunes of the pro-tuned folks in our group, like theflash, speedengineer, and Z. I follow their patterns, which I've confirmed lots of extra times through thread reading.

Torque down low is what to avoid. And rods don't generally bend or snap instantly. They fatigue and start bending progressively, which can be progressively observed as gradually lowering power and gradually increasing KR. Also, since bent rods aren't as short, a pumping compression test will likely show lower compression as the piston won't travel as high up. Since I log meticulously, I'd start seeing a trend, most likely. No such trend has appeared.

So, if you think your car's a ticking time bomb, are you relying on stocking out and getting an engine replacement under warranty? Surely, tuning is inherently risky. But I think all the guys in our group have done very well in minimizing risk and running tunes that have the backing of all the practical wisdom of this forum and really are "safe" rather than ticking-time-bomb tunes.
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I definitely don't think we're running "safe mode" tunes. But I also don't think it's merely a matter of time until Zoom Zoom Boom. My torque peak's at 4k! Now, if it were at 3k and I regularly went WOT at 2k, that would be much more foolish. I just try to keep things at about 21 or so psi no earlier than 3500rpms with 380 or less max torque at 4k. I get these numbers from the "safe" tunes of the pro-tuned folks in our group, like theflash, speedengineer, and Z. I follow their patterns, which I've confirmed lots of extra times through thread reading.

Torque down low is what to avoid. And rods don't generally bend or snap instantly. They fatigue and start bending progressively, which can be progressively observed as gradually lowering power and gradually increasing KR. Also, since bent rods aren't as short, a pumping compression test will likely show lower compression as the piston won't travel as high up. Since I log meticulously, I'd start seeing a trend, most likely. No such trend has appeared.

So, if you think your car's a ticking time bomb, are you relying on stocking out and getting an engine replacement under warranty? Surely, tuning is inherently risky. But I think all the guys in our group have done very well in minimizing risk and running tunes that have the backing of all the practical wisdom of this forum and really are "safe" rather than ticking-time-bomb tunes.
I wouldn't stock out at this point. Lets keep this out of mike's thread.




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I thought you were going to throw some Rods and pistons in? Smelson
It's in the plans but I came across the turbo for cheap so I'll throw it on and do internals later.


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Mik how much do you want to well it for?? Does it have oil all over it? How bout shaft play and bearings

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Mik how much do you want to well it for?? Does it have oil all over it? How bout shaft play and bearings

How much are you selling for mike? I might be interested
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