04 civic si -> genpu?

[alphasaur]

Going to look at genpu's today. I originally had an 07 autotragic mazda 3, which I traded for an 04 civic si. The civic si is fun, alot more fun than the mazda 3 but I do miss the mazda. Going to look at trading it in today, according to kbb I can get almost as much as I paid for my si as a trade in. If I don't trade in I will likely be turbo'd by next spring.

So

turbo 04 si vs gen pu?

[predapio]

They are both fail, no matter what.

If you turbo the civic, it's still a civic.

If you buy a pu....well, enough said.

Gl with your search.

[alphasaur]

yeah honda community is kinda gay so I never really got into any honda stuff

then again mazda community was kinda gay too (fuck you m3f)

AHHH WHAT TO DO

tried searching, but am ratarded I guess

do genpus splode like gendones?

[dizzydtrain]

They can all explode if you don't monitor, run a bad tune, don't upgrade the fuel pump, and just throw on bolt ons without tune.

In any case, the GenPu might look ugly to some but it's way of an upgrade from the mazda 3 and any honduhh.

[Abu Zib]

Originally Posted by dizzydtrain They can all explode if you don't monitor, run a bad tune, don't upgrade the fuel pump, and just throw on bolt ons without tune. In any case, the GenPu might look ugly to some but it's way of an upgrade from the mazda 3 and any honduhh.

x2, as long as you aren't an idiot, it shouldn't esplode on you

[bcmountainspeed]

I don't see how you can even compare a 7 year old honda to a new ms3 man. I guess if the honda is your dream car then pursue your dream my friend.

[I Love Brownies]

Originally Posted by alphasaur yeah honda community is kinda gay so I never really got into any honda stuff then again mazda community was kinda gay too (fuck you m3f) AHHH WHAT TO DO tried searching, but am ratarded I guess do genpus splode like gendones?

yes this is you. retarded*

[adlpb]

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[MS3inDC]

FYHN


/thread

[BlueDmnSpeed]

Just get the MS3. BT MS3 >any turbo'd civic

[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by I Love Brownies yes this is you. retarded*

neg it's ratarded. get on my dramatic effect level bro

[The Yeti]

MS3...nothing against the Honda but the MS3 is brand new and you have a warranty. The MS3 engine is pretty stout. As people have said, just make sure you are tuning right and you'll be fine.

I would have my Gen Pu already if I didnt have such bad luck with trying to buy one. Especially if you can get one now, you get the 0% APR for 60 if you qualify and no payments for 3 months.

[shaftyella]

No contest.

Buy the 'pu.

Profit.

[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by bcmountainspeed I don't see how you can even compare a 7 year old honda to a new ms3 man. I guess if the honda is your dream car then pursue your dream my friend.

the turbo civic would be for economic reasons. roughly 2gs and id be turboed with kpro and putting down over 250.

[I Love Brownies]

sounds like your already stuck on the turbo civic.

[Nazarite]

Well if it's savings you want, then turbo what you have. If it's speed you want vs what you have, you'll be at 280+ whp on the stock turbo in an ms3 with close to 2k in upgrades.

[alphasaur]

neg. was just explaining as to why the turbo civic is even an option

thanks for the input gentleman. going to check the genpu out at the dealer today.

[zpele]

Roughly 2gs and youd be around 350hp in the ms3. Civic's suck balls. Don't buy one unless you suck balls.

[tddvrrn]

Yea, I vote for pu too. The gen1s only sploded because people were ratarded.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by zpele Roughly 2gs and youd be around 350hp in the ms3. Civic's suck balls. Don't buy one unless you suck balls.

Break that down for me por favor, I must be missing something. Unless you're talking chp...

Originally Posted by tddvrrn Yea, I vote for pu too. The gen1s only sploded because people were ratarded.

That or...no one knew how to tune this thing.

[Stealth01]

Easiest answer in the world.

If you keep your Si, you get to hang out on 8thgen.com. If you buy a Pu, you get to hang out on msf.org.

That's like asking if you should bang Roseanne Barr or Angelina Jolie. No contest.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by Stealth01 That's like asking if you should bang Roseanne Barr or Angelina Jolie. No contest.

Unless you like dudes...

[mtran]

I miss my ephatch but I would go with a supercharger on that car instead. I'm assuming you're getting a greddy kit? Not worth it IMO

I'm having a lot more fun in my genpu however. That generation of civic has way too many common issues. For example creaking steering rack, door lock actuators crapping out, blower motor resistors crapping out, o2 sensor crapping out, airbag light coming on, tranny is sensitive as shit in 2nd and 3rd (ms3 tranny doesn't even come close to the issues), clutch squeak from the CMC.

Those are just the problems I ran into with my super low mileage ephatch.

[Stealth01]

Originally Posted by Nazarite Unless you like dudes...

And thus drive a Civic...I see what you did there....

[mtran]

Originally Posted by Stealth01 Easiest answer in the world. If you keep your Si, you get to hang out on 8thgen.com. If you buy a Pu, you get to hang out on msf.org. That's like asking if you should bang Roseanne Barr or Angelina Jolie. No contest.

its a 7th gen. That community is almost non-existent now

[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by MS3inDC FYHN /thread

lol'd

Originally Posted by mtran I miss my ephatch but I would go with a supercharger on that car instead. I'm assuming you're getting a greddy kit? Not worth it IMO I'm having a lot more fun in my genpu however. That generation of civic has way too many common issues. For example creaking steering rack, door lock actuators crapping out, blower motor resistors crapping out, o2 sensor crapping out, airbag light coming on, tranny is sensitive as shit in 2nd and 3rd (ms3 tranny doesn't even come close to the issues), clutch squeak from the CMC. Those are just the problems I ran into with my super low mileage ephatch.

knock on wood havent had any of those issues except for the tranny. I thought I was a super shitty driver but I just changed the tranny fluid and I feel like a pro (im still shitty). It'd be the emusa kit with a tial wg and probably an hks bov, turbo would be redone too. All in all should cost just shy of 2g's.

Reason I even got the idea to get a new car was because my boy just got a new gti and he beat my ep3 by half a car length. I got the new car fever and I want to shit all over his vdubyo.

[adlpb]

If you thought anyone here would recommend you keep this car


over ANY ms3, then I don't even know what your purpose was. If you go on 8th gen they'll tell you to keep your ricey civic and turbocharge it. So all in all it is your decision.

If you want something serious with a strong base to put mods on, go with the genpu. If you want to look like a high school kid on a budget fart can, stick with the civic. My opinion.

Originally Posted by alphasaur Reason I even got the idea to get a new car was because my boy just got a new gti and he beat my ep3 by half a car length. I got the new car fever and I want to shit all over his vdubyo.

Really? I thought you had VTAAKKK.
Although I think that buying a new car for solely this reason is retarded, an MS3 would eat that GTI any day.

[robry]

I turdblow'd my 06' rsx-s and it was a hell of a lot more than 2g's with kpro. If that's your wish, go ahead, but until you buy all the supporting mods, it'll end up costing more. In the end, I was worried about the K series transmission blowing up.

if it were me, and you had your finances in check and good credit, now would be the time to jump into a MS3. I love my genpu way more than I ever did my rsx, even after 15k in bullshit upgrades to it.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by alphasaur lol'd knock on wood havent had any of those issues except for the tranny. I thought I was a super shitty driver but I just changed the tranny fluid and I feel like a pro (im still shitty). It'd be the emusa kit with a tial wg and probably an hks bov, turbo would be redone too. All in all should cost just shy of 2g's. Reason I even got the idea to get a new car was because my boy just got a new gti and he beat my ep3 by half a car length. I got the new car fever and I want to shit all over his vdubyo.

Alright, just to be friendly, carrying on about your proposed turbo build on the civic won't sway anyone's opinion here. Most of us know jack diddly about them, the only guy I know with one on this forum uses it as his daily beater. You've got your answer: on a mazdaspeed forum, we recommend you buy the mazdaspeed (surprise!). Don't come in here and ask, then tell us you'd rather keep the civic because of money. If that's the case, you could have saved us all a bit of time.

Now seriously, /thread.

@adlpb kind of beat me to it.

[jwilkins88]

Didn't read many of the posts, but if you're going to turbo the K20A3, you're an idiot. At the very least you need to do an A2 swap, then go FI.

Don't waste your time with the A3... it's one of the weakest motors Honda ever made

[BigJimMs3]

Yea i mean a 04 civic si compared to a Genpu ms3 its really no contest. Even with the Genpu gay ass smile still 10x better car and doesn't have a gay shifter... + you'll actually feel torque!!! Get a Genpu get some basic bolt-ons and you'll be happy.

[PunjabiPlaya]

you're complaining about the retarded honda community and m3f.

get the pu, donate, and enjoy the upper echelon of faggotry that is msf.

[zpele]

Originally Posted by Nazarite Break that down for me por favor, I must be missing something. Unless you're talking chp...

Not sure how to break it down ay further so I wrote a Haiku following the usual 5-7-5 pattern:

Civic like suck balls
Horses have really big dicks
Oranges are fruit.

[adlpb]

Originally Posted by zpele Not sure how to break it down ay further so I wrote a Haiku following the usual 5-7-5 pattern: Civic like suck balls Horses have really big dicks Oranges are fruit.

I think he meant how you can achieve 350whp with only 2k in mods. Unless you are talking chp. Meaning detailed breakdown of mods.

[tragik]

fuck the haters get a PU!

FYH tho.

[zpele]

Originally Posted by adlpb I think he meant how you can achieve 350whp with only 2k in mods. Unless you are talking chp. Meaning detailed breakdown of mods.

Ahhhh is that what he meant? I had no idea. No really. Like none at all. Ever. Not never.

I might be off a few k and the hp might be a bit high but you know fully bolted is prolly about 2k.

rmm = $150ish
ebay dp = $100ish
ap = $500ish
intake = $150ish
custom exhaust = $600-800ish
tip = who the fuck cares
custom fmic = $500ish
step colder plugs = $30ish
bpv = who the fuck cares
internals = $300ish

so thats um......$2330-2530

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by zpele Ahhhh is that what he meant? I had no idea. No really. Like none at all. Ever. Not never. I might be off a few k and the hp might be a bit high but you know fully bolted is prolly about 2k.

Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier too. Aight den, thanks for clarifying.

[adlpb]

Originally Posted by zpele Ahhhh is that what he meant? I had no idea. No really. Like none at all. Ever. Not never. I might be off a few k and the hp might be a bit high but you know fully bolted is prolly about 2k. rmm = $150ish ebay dp = $100ish ap = $500ish intake = $150ish custom exhaust = $600-800ish tip = who the fuck cares custom fmic = $500ish step colder plugs = $30ish bpv = who the fuck cares internals = $300ish so thats um......$2330-2530

Those mods would not yield you anywhere near 350. A "bit" off is a bit of an exaggeration.

[2011speed]

The Ep3 in the us is most fail civic created

[urville]

You can turbo that motor all day and it will never have torque... that car simply doesnt have any cahones. The transmission is shit, the interior is crap... damnit this car infuriates me!!!