2012 MS3 changes and prices.

[analbumcover]

Hi all

Just want to start of by saying I've been a long time creeper, first time poster.

Any who, I've been in the market for a new car and i was cross shopping the MS3 against the genesis coupe, (wrx is too much). Big fan of the genesis coupe looks...not a fan of everything else.

Any who, I've decided on the MS3 and I just wanted to put out a feeler for pricing and the differences between 11's and 12's. I looked at the other post and it seems like they changed the trim pieces from the red dots to silver or silver to black, changed the shift knob a little and messed with the gauges and i guess the new display has white littering vs the red. did i miss anything?

Also, what are prices looking like for these things? I know they are "new" but when i was shopping an '11 last month the lowest i got for a base MS3 was 22.5k + TTL...i dont see that being a particularly good deal..

thanks

[SleeperHatch]

I just found out that the dealer invoice for the 12 is $25,300 give or take. So honestly Id go in and tell them you will pay $500 over invoice and that's it oh and that's with tech package

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[analbumcover]

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 I just found out that the dealer invoice for the 12 is $25,300 give or take. So honestly Id go in and tell them you will pay $500 over invoice and that's it oh and that's with tech package Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk

I'm looking for a base MS3 but I would never pay a penny over invoice for a car. I'm looking at zag/Amex/truecar for my region (St. Louis) and they're giving me ~$25410 w/ tech, guaranteed pricing. I think with the resources out there paying at or below invoice should be attainable, whether its attainable this early in the model year...i dunno...anyone out there have a '12?

I was looking at 21-22k for a base, is this doable even though the car was "just released", its not like its a new gen for the Mazda3 little changes cant warrant markup's just because the car just got to dealer lots.

[AZSPEED3]

Welcome to the forum. Good luck on the MS3. When you get it, post up some pics.

[adlpb]

Right now dealers probably won't budge on the 12, but I got my 11 for almost little under $4K under invoice price before TTL. It's all in how much you can talk them down/piss them off.

[G26]

Got my 11 for about 3-4k under msrp before ttl.

[Pu Manchu]

Originally Posted by analbumcover Hi all Just want to start of by saying I've been a long time creeper, first time poster. Any who, I've been in the market for a new car and i was cross shopping the MS3 against the genesis coupe, (wrx is too much). Big fan of the genesis coupe looks...not a fan of everything else. Any who, I've decided on the MS3 and I just wanted to put out a feeler for pricing and the differences between 11's and 12's. I looked at the other post and it seems like they changed the trim pieces from the red dots to silver or silver to black, changed the shift knob a little and messed with the gauges and i guess the new display has white littering vs the red. did i miss anything? Also, what are prices looking like for these things? I know they are "new" but when i was shopping an '11 last month the lowest i got for a base MS3 was 22.5k + TTL...i dont see that being a particularly good deal.. thanks

The difference is meaningless, and the pricing is the same.

I learned that when I found some obscure website called mazdausa.com.

[Elusivellama]

Changes:

- blind spot monitoring system in tech pkg, deletion of 6 CD changer from pkg
- addition of CWP colour, deletion of Celestial Blue
- silver dash trim instead of chickenpox
- red/pinkish and white gauges instead of red and red
- head unit has black buttons instead of silver
- centre stack is now black
- silver ring around shifter housing
- leather wrapped parking brake
- shift knob doesn't have silver ring on top



In other words, CWP and BSM are the only changes you need to care about.

[Pu Manchu]

Originally Posted by Elusivellama Changes: - blind spot monitoring system in tech pkg, deletion of 6 CD changer from pkg - addition of CWP colour, deletion of Celestial Blue - silver dash trim instead of chickenpox - red/pinkish and white gauges instead of red and red - head unit has black buttons instead of silver - centre stack is now black - silver ring around shifter housing - leather wrapped parking brake - shift knob doesn't have silver ring on top - Bose ten speaker system is now standard instead of a tech package option In other words, CWP and BSM are the only changes you need to care about.

and that.

[MS3inDC]

Gen 1 GT for 14-15k = win

Fuck a "new" car

[blacknight87]

Hey there good choic on the ms3 i just bought a 2012 actually, black one i love it. The base model is around $23,500 i got it right at sticker price which was awsome so there wasnt any markup at all. Its nice i like the little tweaks they did to the 12 model.

[adlpb]

Originally Posted by blacknight87 Hey there good choic on the ms3 i just bought a 2012 actually, black one i love it. The base model is around $23,500 i got it right at sticker price which was awsome so there wasnt any markup at all. Its nice i like the little tweaks they did to the 12 model.

Congrats, although you're one of the first people I ever hear that pays sticker price. Usually you talk the price down, as sticker prices imply pretty large profit margins for the dealers.

[analbumcover]

Originally Posted by hiacre The difference is meaningless, and the pricing is the same. I learned that when I found some obscure website called mazdausa.com.

Right, thats how I see it. I think, "Well great, you have a '12...is it different from the 11? Whats that? It's not? Why the hell are you charging more?"

Maybe I just need to wait it out until these mazda salesmen realize they're trying to sell a manual transmission small econo car with sticker MPG that scares the bejesus out of everyone and not a toyota prius that everyone is flocking towards. then shop around again.

Originally Posted by hiacre and that.

is the 265w stereo standard? I looked on the other thread and it def. falls into the tech package.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/5...0822282665.jpg

[Pu Manchu]

Originally Posted by analbumcover Right, thats how I see it. I think, "Well great, you have a '12...is it different from the 11? Whats that? It's not? Why the hell are you charging more?" Maybe I just need to wait it out until these mazda salesmen realize they're trying to sell a manual transmission small econo car with sticker MPG that scares the bejesus out of everyone and not a toyota prius that everyone is flocking towards. then shop around again. is the 265w stereo standard? I looked on the other thread and it def. falls into the tech package. http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/5...0822282665.jpg

Weird, it's listed as standard in the spec sheet.

[jimmy]

What I really want to know is where are these anal bum covers you speak of, and how much do they cost. My friend is doing a brief stint in county, and I am sending him a care package.

[analbumcover]

Originally Posted by jimmy What I really want to know is where are these anal bum covers you speak of, and how much do they cost. My friend is doing a brief stint in county, and I am sending him a care package.

trust me, im looking for them too.

[Eljoselo6]

Honestly if you get a Speed 3 within $500 dollars from invoice it’s good. It’s a small car so there is barely any markup from the factory (probably $ 1,900). Anybody who got a supposed “4,000 off” is highly unlikely, unless the car was a demo or they had a trade in and the dealer “showed” them 4k off. Good luck with your purchase.

[Dhump]

Originally Posted by Eljoselo6 Honestly if you get a Speed 3 within $500 dollars from invoice it’s good. It’s a small car so there is barely any markup from the factory (probably $ 1,900). Anybody who got a supposed “4,000 off” is highly unlikely, unless the car was a demo or they had a trade in and the dealer “showed” them 4k off. Good luck with your purchase.

Exactly. These things just hit the lot, you aren't going to see much (if any) budging on the price. Shell games with trade ins don't count as a price reduction.

[OmgitsSexyChase]

I can get a 2012 for 24600, or 24800 in white

Tech on Both, do you think its a good deal? or should I try to get it lower

[analbumcover]

Originally Posted by OmgitsSexyChase I can get a 2012 for 24600, or 24800 in white Tech on Both, do you think its a good deal? or should I try to get it lower

no, thats a pretty terrible price. zag/amex/truecar shows 22,5xx for 12's. anything more would be wasting money

New 2012 Mazda Mazda3 Price Quote w/ MSRP, Dealer Cost & Invoice

[SleeperHatch]

Originally Posted by OmgitsSexyChase I can get a 2012 for 24600, or 24800 in white Tech on Both, do you think its a good deal? or should I try to get it lower

That's a great price the dumbass that said it isn't posted a link for the regular 3..

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[analbumcover]

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 That's a great price the dumbass that said it isn't posted a link for the regular 3.. Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk

I'm the dumbass that posted the link. I just saw he said tech3's in which case those are good prices.

[PunjabiPlaya]

it says 5dr mazdaspeed3 touring

[Teethkikr]

We got a '12 in and were doing the PDI and there are a couple changes from what I can remember from looking under my '10. There is a large, metal bracket that is under the resonator. It looks to be for rigidity. Also, there are large splash shields on the left and right sides. It looks like they are trying to cut down on wind noise.

[omykaela]

i just got my 2012 w/ tech last month. beside aesthetic changes on the inside, the only other new addition seems to be the blind spot monitoring system included w/ the tech package. sticker price is 27,010 but i just went with AAA discount

[highrevimports]

I JUST PICKED UP MY MS3 TECH PKG FOR $25300 + TAX. MSRP WAS $27,070

[Stwok240]

Originally Posted by adlpb Congrats, although you're one of the first people I ever hear that pays sticker price. Usually you talk the price down, as sticker prices imply pretty large profit margins for the dealers.

I got the same price also but that was due to being upside down on my trade in. Rather than mark down a 2012 MS3 they put 1.5k More into my trade.

Regardless i'm still very pleased with my purchase.

[TTB yeee]

Originally Posted by analbumcover I'm looking for a base MS3 but I would never pay a penny over invoice for a car. I'm looking at zag/Amex/truecar for my region (St. Louis) and they're giving me ~$25410 w/ tech, guaranteed pricing. I think with the resources out there paying at or below invoice should be attainable, whether its attainable this early in the model year...i dunno...anyone out there have a '12? I was looking at 21-22k for a base, is this doable even though the car was "just released", its not like its a new gen for the Mazda3 little changes cant warrant markup's just because the car just got to dealer lots.

Email a dealer and tell them that you have S-plan, and you were wondering what the price is. It should be right around 22,000. That is basically dealer invoice + destination. So that is probably the lowest you will be able to get a 2012. 2011 should go for a bit under that

[Elusivellama]

Originally Posted by Teethkikr We got a '12 in and were doing the PDI and there are a couple changes from what I can remember from looking under my '10. There is a large, metal bracket that is under the resonator. It looks to be for rigidity. Also, there are large splash shields on the left and right sides. It looks like they are trying to cut down on wind noise.

Very interesting. Do you suppose you could snap a couple pics for us next time you do a PDI on another? (you work at a dealership, I suppose?)

Originally Posted by omykaela i just got my 2012 w/ tech last month. beside aesthetic changes on the inside, the only other new addition seems to be the blind spot monitoring system included w/ the tech package. sticker price is 27,010 but i just went with AAA discount

Well... they also got rid of the 6 CD changer in the tech package, and the 2010s had power driver's seat with 3 memory function (programmable to the key fob as well, so the seats adjust as you open the door).

I'd still trade the above for blind spot monitoring system any day...

[Fatguy729]

If you get an 11 they qualify for 0% financing... The 12's don't

[omykaela]

Originally Posted by Elusivellama Well... they also got rid of the 6 CD changer in the tech package, and the 2010s had power driver's seat with 3 memory function (programmable to the key fob as well, so the seats adjust as you open the door). I'd still trade the above for blind spot monitoring system any day...

Naww the six disc is still there. Actually I haven't really tried it, but everyone uses iPods now anyways lol it'd be kinda nice if I had power seats with mem function but don't really mind since I'm the only one driving my car

[robry]

prove it, mazdausa.com doesn't say anything about a 6 disc changer, just about a cd player.

265-watt Bose® Centerpoint® Surround Sound System with AudioPilot® 2, AM/FM stereo, in-dash CD/MP3-compatible player and 10 speakers

[Zance]

You can get this car in white in the US now? Think I want to trade in my silver one for the white lol.

[ramellensb]

Originally Posted by adlpb Right now dealers probably won't budge on the 12, but I got my 11 for almost little under $4K under invoice price before TTL. It's all in how much you can talk them down/piss them off.

invoice or mrsp?? how does a dealer sell a car for under what they bought it for?

[ramellensb]

did anyone trade a car in?

[breakfstincluded]

gawd daym, no more chickenpox trim? CWP, AND blindspot monitoring? not bad new genpus

I'd still rather save money for mods, but its an imporvement for new current year cars

[ANITIX87]

Originally Posted by ramellensb invoice or mrsp?? how does a dealer sell a car for under what they bought it for?

They get so many incentives just for getting a car to a customer, that their profit margin means almost nothing. My family has paid below invoice for every car we've ever gotten, as have all the other people I know.

TIS

[TTB yeee]

Originally Posted by ANITIX87 They get so many incentives just for getting a car to a customer, that their profit margin means almost nothing. My family has paid below invoice for every car we've ever gotten, as have all the other people I know. TIS

Yeah, but Invoice is usually 1000 over what the dealer pays (depending on car obviously)

So although you got the car under listed invoice, dealer may have made money. Also, dealers make most of their money on used cars and service, so if you get a great price on your new car, chances are they make up for it on your trade in. Incentives obviously help as well.

I got 11,500 for my 06 GTI with 70k miles, which is a pretty good trade in price. If i had try to sell it privately, I would have been asking $13,000, but they have it listed for $16,000. It will probably sell for $13,000-14,000, so even though they didn't make anything on my new car purchase, they will make $2,000 on my trade in.

[omykaela]

Originally Posted by robry prove it, mazdausa.com doesn't say anything about a 6 disc changer, just about a cd player.

nvm, no 6-disc in my car. bummer =/

Originally Posted by breakfstincluded gawd daym, no more chickenpox trim? CWP, AND blindspot monitoring? not bad new genpus I'd still rather save money for mods, but its an imporvement for new current year cars

the chickenpox is still on the seats, but not on the door handles or above the glove box anymore

[fuchikoma]

No Bose in my base 2012. Not listed on the window sticker either.