For all ms3 with low miles...

[Noodlesincup]

I called my dealership
ANY after market mods would void my warrenty
This makes he hesitant since I only have 2k miles on my car.
Sri/tip is easy to stock out but the other things would be a pain...


You guys with the fairly new ms3 did you just say f it and mod?
100k miles is a long time not to mod

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[thegoofjuice]

i had the same dilema im just going to make sure to keep all my stock parts and swap them back if i have any problems

[makjur]

100k miles for warranty?
Did u get some kind of extended warranty, or just talking about the few items that are covered beyond the, what I thought was 36k miles or 3 years, whatever comes first
I got my 2010 used with 4k miles on it so might be a different story for me

[dereeek]

i don't want the dealer to ever touch my car...

k04 dies, i buy a new turbo etc...

[Etipp98]

I wouldn't be afraid to install some stuff as long as it's a quick swap back to stock. I honestly wouldn't be worried about internals either, I highly doubt they will pull the pump and inspect them. I put some internals in today in a buddies car @Last_Loser . Literally took us maybe an hour.

[Noodlesincup]

Originally Posted by gitarpik 100k miles for warranty? Did u get some kind of extended warranty, or just talking about the few items that are covered beyond the, what I thought was 36k miles or 3 years, whatever comes first I got my 2010 used with 4k miles on it so might be a different story for me

Yeah extended
It was a free perk for returning customer
Girl bought a mazda 2

Originally Posted by thegoofjuice i had the same dilema im just going to make sure to keep all my stock parts and swap them back if i have any problems

Yeah sadly its a pain in the ass though



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[Tokay444]

Call them back and tell them if they try that shit again you'll call the better business bureau on them.
Kindly let them know that you are well aware that if anything is to go wrong with your car, the burden of proof lies on them as to what caused it.
Putting a rod through a block is likely not caused by any of the proven intakes readily available off of this forum.

[Elusivellama]

I would like to know why you even bothered calling the dealership to ask a question with such an obvious answer.

[Noodlesincup]

Originally Posted by Elusivellama I would like to know why you even bothered calling the dealership to ask a question with such an obvious answer.

when I had my rsx s it was mildly modded
They still fixed my car under warranty
Shit I even raced the master mechanic and the service manager a couple times

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[Tokay444]

Racing Hondas is like being in the special Olympics.
Even if you win, you're still retarded.

[davinspeed3]

Originally Posted by gitarpik 100k miles for warranty? Did u get some kind of extended warranty, or just talking about the few items that are covered beyond the, what I thought was 36k miles or 3 years, whatever comes first I got my 2010 used with 4k miles on it so might be a different story for me

this is the same warranty as me and i bought brand new. allready a year down. i said fuck it and modded away.

[Ezekiel81923]

I bought mine used, 2011 with 11k miles and got the remainder of the 5yr/60k mile warranty. I'm just going to do what I want and then if anything happens It'll be on me to take the time to swap it all out.

Realistically once it's modded out and tuned that tune should keep me safe (will be an improvement over stock but still relatively conservative since its my DD) but I suppose you never know.

[Acedelgado]

Keeping Your Mod's Warranty Intact - For Dummies

Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage. If the dealer cannot prove such a claim — or it proffers a questionable explanation — it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission administers the Magnuson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.

Should be fine, man. Just don't do anything really stupid, like flash stage 2 while completely stock.

[snowms3]

I said fuck it after 500 miles. Intake then the rest is history. I hit 25k the other day and i have been damn near fully bolted with an AP for the past 14k. NBD man just be smart about shit. I know that if for some fucked up reason my engine goes. I will be taking a week of from work to stock out, or if i can convince the wifey, spend the money i have been saving to buy a stage 1 block from CPE. That is just my 2 cents though

[Noodlesincup]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 Racing Hondas is like being in the special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

Hehe thats why I drive a mazda now

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[Teethkikr]

I have 2,500 miles on my 12 and my sig list is below..

[2008speed3]

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[makjur]

if you have the money, the know-how and plan to do it yourself, I say mod it up moddy. If you were able to install the shit, you will be able to fix any problems that arise with it.

if you plan to have everything installed by someone else, be prepared to pay someone else to fix shit if it any problems arise - in this case i would also go light on the mods so they can be removed easily in case anything needs to get warrantied

i would also avoid reflashing with AP if you want warranty-ability since i have read that all of your cars logs can be accessed by dealer and parameters like boost peak will give away the fact you werent running stock map

[jpshotya]

You can mod the car and like TOKAY444 said , they have to prove that your mods are what caused the issue. for the most part simple mods like intake or a bpv (seems to be the first items) are not gonna cause major issues to the car. Or you can go into that section we have that shows you mod friendly places to go.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by gitarpik if you have the money, the know-how and plan to do it yourself, I say mod it up moddy. If you were able to install the shit, you will be able to fix any problems that arise with it. if you plan to have everything installed by someone else, be prepared to pay someone else to fix shit if it any problems arise - in this case i would also go light on the mods so they can be removed easily in case anything needs to get warrantied i would also avoid reflashing with AP if you want warranty-ability since i have read that all of your cars logs can be accessed by dealer and parameters like boost peak will give away the fact you werent running stock map

Ummmm, running mods without tuning for them is downright dangerous.
Please don't give op bad advice.
I'd say intake and test pipe are about as far as anyone should go with pickin up an AP or Versatune and making sure you're running properly.
Even then you're gonna want fuel pump internals.

[makjur]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 Ummmm, running mods without tuning for them is downright dangerous. Please don't give op bad advice. I'd say intake and test pipe are about as far as anyone should go with pickin up an AP or Versatune and making sure you're running properly. Even then you're gonna want fuel pump internals.

Ur right, my bad
I was meaning to say not to use AP to tune, just monitor. Didnt realize that you needed to compensate for even just an intake in terms of tuning.
So the 3 really do need to get installed at the same time... SRI, AP and HPFP

[TRex]

goddamnit people....how many fucking times have we been over this?

there is no such thing as a VOIDED warranty, only DENIED claims

the dealership CANNOT just out right say you get no warranty work period because you have an intake or some other shit.....if something happens to the vehicle and there is a mod involved in the system it is on THEM to prove that the mod caused the issue and not a latent defect in the system

stop eating the shit the dealership is shoveling down your throat and know your rights

at the same time dont be stupid ass and go flaunting your mods around in the dealership, be smart and have a good relationship with them and they will help you

or be a real man and learn to work on your car

[deadlandxtreme]

I'm proof that you can be a dumbass and blow your motor...and still get it all covered:
BOOM! What is this brown liquid coming out of my car?

[tomek_46]

I just hope nothing will break in my car

[Uberfly]

I believe this applies here.

Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act
Magnuson

Keeping Your Mod's Warranty Intact - For Dummies

[TRex]

^yes and no, the Magnuson-Moss act has some lose meaning here

i believe @Darksun280 has explained quite well the lack of protection the magnuson act gives us

[MazdaPoPo]

i doesnt void your whole warranty it just voids that part of your warranty, for example if you did an intake, it would void your warranty on anything that had to do with air induction but if you had a problem with another part of the car it would still be covered. or like other people said just keep the stock parts and swap it out

[darth_speeder]

i had my car stock for like 4 months, and then i just started modding. i realized i wasnt gona take it back to the dealer anyways i do most of the shit myself.

i did keep all my stock parts tho. JUST IN CASEEE

[TRex]

Originally Posted by MazdaPoPo i doesnt void your whole warranty it just voids that part of your warranty, for example if you did an intake, it would void your warranty on anything that had to do with air induction but if you had a problem with another part of the car it would still be covered. or like other people said just keep the stock parts and swap it out

no, you are incorrect, there is no VOIDING of a warranty in part or in whole period, a vehicle is sold with a warranty and it CANNOT BE REMOVED through modification of that vehicle

HOWEVER! your CLAIM can be DENIED, maybe you are equating that to a voiding of the warranty, but it is not, plain and simple, having your claim denied and having the warranty revoked from your vehicle in part or in whole are two completely different things....the results are the same but they are fundamentally different

you can't keep perpetuating the warranty voided BS, it makes people scared to get work done on their cars and is a common misconception that dealers perpetuate because it is a pain in the ass to go through the process of investigating and denying a claim

even if you had an intake on your car and you had a failure in the air induction system, if they cannot show that the intake is the thing that caused it then they have no grounds to deny your claim

[Darksun280]

magnuson actis is there to protect people who want to use oil, brake pads, lightbulbs, exhaust parts and things of that nature that are OEM replacements. The way they are writing the warranties (if any of you knuckle heads would read them) they don't have to really prove shit to void your warranty. burden of proof falls on the person whos voided.

You should have learned that after the GT-R transmission fiasco. That took alot of people and alot of time and money to get resolved. Thank god the judge awarded all the peoples lawyer fees paid for in the settlement. Shit was like 50-100k alone.

[wankular]

Don't assume you're ever going to need warranty work. That's loser talk.

If something catastrophic (expensive) happens, ie blown motor or fucked trans, then completely stocking out will be worth it.

[speed3sb]

Just keep all your stock parts! God forbid you ever have to go to the stealership!

[deadlandxtreme]

Originally Posted by wankular Don't assume you're ever going to need warranty work. That's loser talk. If something catastrophic (expensive) happens, ie blown motor or fucked trans, then completely stocking out will be worth it.

No doubt there! Thank you Mazda for all my new goodies!

[MazdaPoPo]

Originally Posted by TRex no, you are incorrect, there is no VOIDING of a warranty in part or in whole period, a vehicle is sold with a warranty and it CANNOT BE REMOVED through modification of that vehicle HOWEVER! your CLAIM can be DENIED, maybe you are equating that to a voiding of the warranty, but it is not, plain and simple, having your claim denied and having the warranty revoked from your vehicle in part or in whole are two completely different things....the results are the same but they are fundamentally different you can't keep perpetuating the warranty voided BS, it makes people scared to get work done on their cars and is a common misconception that dealers perpetuate because it is a pain in the ass to go through the process of investigating and denying a claim even if you had an intake on your car and you had a failure in the air induction system, if they cannot show that the intake is the thing that caused it then they have no grounds to deny your claim

your pretty much agreeing with what im saying...whether your warranty is voided or they deny ur claim, just as you said, the outcome is the same...the problem doesnt get fixed. so who really cares how you word it? im sure the person on the receiving end of not getting there problem fixed wouldnt feel any better if the dealership said "your warranty isnt voided, we are just denying your claim" or gee thanks, i feel alot better now...wait...no. and i assure you that your are incorrect in saying they have no reason to deny your claim...i can almost guarantee that they will deny your claim every single time. but regardless who really cares? plain and simple just keep the stock parts and you wont have to worry, OR just never go back to a dealer

[TRex]

because there is deeper implications in saying your warranty is voided

warranty voiding implies there is no reason to try, because you are obviously voided, plus it implies an over arching indication that your VEHICLE is being voided

if however you are denied only the CLAIM is denied and you are free to try a different dealership, or hell even the same one on another day

in one case (the denial) you are being denied a work activity on your car

in the other case (voiding) you are being denied even the CHANCE of having the activity preformed on your car

very different

[2011speed]

Ur warranty wont get voided for mods... I believe this has been said 1000 times, heres 1001.

Dealership can deny a warranty claim if they can connect it to ur mod. If u have a smokey turbo and a aftermarket DP, they will deny ur claim because they will make up some bs about ur DP making too much power over stock thus making the turbo smoke.

Dealership tried to blame my hatch rattle on my winter tires. almost punched the service advisor in the face.

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[makjur]

Originally Posted by 2011speed Dealership tried to blame my hatch rattle on my winter tires. almost punched the service advisor in the face.

did they end up fixing it?
and did u have to pay for them just to look at stuff and tell you they wont cover it?
(my gf seems to think that i'll be paying money for their time spent looking at list of issues i left with them after i dropped my car off today if they dont end up fixing them)

[durtrid3r]

the dealership i go to is so chill about mods...its so sick. Brought my car in there a few times completely modded up and got great service

[2011speed]

Originally Posted by gitarpik did they end up fixing it? and did u have to pay for them just to look at stuff and tell you they wont cover it? (my gf seems to think that i'll be paying money for their time spent looking at list of issues i left with them after i dropped my car off today if they dont end up fixing them)

Nah they didnt charge me anything, nor did they fix it. I went to a dif dealership and they fixed it no questions asked.

However they will charge u for even just looking at something if its not a warranty covered issue

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[makjur]

Originally Posted by 2011speed However they will charge u for even just looking at something if its not a warranty covered issue

Only thing i can think of that wouldnt be covered by warranty is anything consumable, break pads, tires and shit like that... What else would not be considered a warranty issue?