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MichaelBrown86 05-20-2016 03:26 PM

BSD + 70A RMM NVH?
 
I'm trying to decide if I want to do both BSD and RMM on my daily driver. I installed a Sure RMM (without BSD) on my previous 2010 MazdaSpeed3 and the NVH didn't bother me.

I recently bought a 2012 MS3 and I want to get an idea of how much NVH I will experience with the JBR 70A RMM and BSD.

Anyone have this setup in the Northern Virginia area?

WetzMS3 05-20-2016 03:29 PM

What is you reasoning for removing the balance shaft?

MS3Shadow 05-20-2016 03:30 PM

#racecar ?

sent from my Nexus 6P

MichaelBrown86 05-20-2016 03:36 PM

The plan I have for the car as of now focuses on removing unsprung and rotational mass. The balance shaft is just the first thing to go on a long list.

I like the idea of "unleashing" power through increased efficiency.

g00s3y 05-20-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelBrown86 (Post 3055623)
I like the idea of "unleashing" power through increased efficiency.

Oh, you mean like what would happen if you got internals, an AP, and a tune?

texasboy21 05-20-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelBrown86 (Post 3055623)
The plan I have for the car as of now focuses on removing unsprung and rotational mass. The balance shaft is just the first thing to go on a long list.

I like the idea of "unleashing" power through increased efficiency.

Seems like it would be more efficient (ba doom chaaa) to allow the turbo operate more efficiently with a larger intake, removal of the secondary cat, and a tune + internals.

Cost to performance gains are greater with flow mods + tune vs lightweight wheels, rotors, etc.

MichaelBrown86 05-20-2016 09:26 PM

All those items mentioned above will come soon enough. But first, I want to relieve the engine of some parasitic loss, and make sure it's held in place with a better rear motor mount.

So, can anyone answer my original question: what are the NVH levels with a JBR 70A RMM, and BSD? Also; is there anyone in the northern Virginia area with this setup where I could check out their car?

texasboy21 05-20-2016 09:53 PM

Keep Your Balance Shafts ? Jacks Transmissions

shaneski 05-21-2016 01:08 AM

I'm yet to see a before and after BSD on a dyno to see what or if there is any power difference.

impossible 05-21-2016 01:13 AM

Make sure to avoid JBR PMM if you end up doing the BSD lol

MichaelBrown86 05-21-2016 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasboy21 (Post 3055703)

I've read this article and other posts like it, but the same thing usually pops up:
A) It's based on DSM's, not the MZR
B) The vehicles have much higher hp than stock
C) Every negative comment isn't backed up by actual experiences, but instead there's supporting arguments that there is no negative affect on the motor by personal experiences.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneski (Post 3055714)
I'm yet to see a before and after BSD on a dyno to see what or if there is any power difference.

I haven't either, but I have heard as high as 10hp difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by impossible (Post 3055715)
Make sure to avoid JBR PMM if you end up doing the BSD lol

I've read a few posts about someone with the JBR triple set and BSD and it was just crazy. I'm going for a much more mild setup with the softest JBR RMM tof try avoid that.

impossible 05-21-2016 10:14 PM

Go with stiffest RMM if it will be your only upgraded mount for now. Just avoid his mounts all together and go Damond Motorsport tbh. I've had his whole trilogy and been disappointed, currently running a 2nd PMM after remodding my MS3 and I'm going with DM PMM to match my existing DM TMM that I replaced a JBR for

MichaelBrown86 06-01-2016 02:43 PM

I still haven't had my original question answered: What levels of NVH are to be expected from a JBR 70A RMM + BSD?

WetzMS3 06-01-2016 02:54 PM

In all reality, you're never going to get that question answered until you try it out yourself. NVH is so subjective, that someone may come in here and tell you the NVH level with that setup is perfectly tolerable, then you go a head and do it and hate life.

Read through any motor mount review thread and you'll kinda see what I mean. Just about any mount, no matter how soft or stiff will get a wide range of opinion on NVH.


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