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Ace99899 07-06-2011 07:54 AM

CAI stuff
 
Alright I for see getting crap for this but to be honest Idc... In my mind this is a pretty good question/topic: Making a CAI instead of spending a couple 100.

What makes these company's CAI so great. I'm no expert but I think you could make one out of alluminum pipe lol. Yea it may not be pretty at first but you can polish metal or put a nice coat of paint on there. Even buy a speed sticker an slap it on if you feel daring eh... I'm thinking you could still pull close to the same hp out of a homemade one.

Any thoughts on such a daring endeavor???

MS33SM 07-06-2011 07:59 AM

Nothing makes those company's CAIs great, that is why everyone gets a SRI.

If you wanna craft your own just make sure you have an air straightener in there and weld those seems with extra fail.

adlpb 07-06-2011 08:00 AM

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com...8397457106.jpg

I Love Brownies 07-06-2011 08:05 AM

in b4 cel

Ace99899 07-06-2011 08:12 AM

Hmmm expected a little more failing douche bag attempts, I'll give it some more time.

fywdyl 07-06-2011 08:14 AM

Do it.

In the meantime, look into double intercooler goodness.

Vater 07-06-2011 09:14 AM

This should work.

http://joe-ks.com/archives_mar2006/RedneckRepairKit.jpg

G26 07-06-2011 10:16 AM

Do your mazdaspeed some justice and don't ghetto rig up some shit. Buy an CS intake/tip for $250, or any of the others.

Ace99899 07-06-2011 05:30 PM

I wouldnt ghetto rig anything. all i want to know is if making one from aluminum pipe(one piece) would there be any loss of hp gain.

PunjabiPlaya 07-06-2011 05:32 PM

maybe, don't know until you try it

but best to think of why these mod companies spend all that time and money developing and testing the mod to be the way it is

G26 07-06-2011 05:50 PM

I'd rather have peace of mind buying a product that has some R&D into it, then always wondering if my homemade job was working right or not.

Ace99899 07-07-2011 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G26 (Post 924294)
I'd rather have peace of mind buying a product that has some R&D into it, then always wondering if my homemade job was working right or not.

I see where your coming from. I think though I'll just give it a try, it will probably be one piece. I'll weld everything up. I'm going to go off the Cobb design or the hks design. I'll post pic up whenever I got some spare time to make one.
Who knows, if its easy and no problem and works maybe ill make a couple and sell them for cheap.

Pu Manchu 07-07-2011 08:46 AM

If I were you I'd route the CAI all the way through the bumper and out the fog housing.

adlpb 07-07-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiacre (Post 925150)
If I were you I'd route the CAI all the way through the bumper and out the fog housing.

And then do this

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...3/L1020402.jpg

Ace99899 07-07-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 925158)

Lol hard

wette460 07-07-2011 03:41 PM

nothing like reinventing the wheel. I think you must know some of my battalion leadership. Are you that cheap to spend a couple hundred bucks? I'm sure u can find a used one on here for really cheap. Me thinks you will end up wasting too much time trying to make it work effectively for it to be worth it...unless you are really good at fabricating.

backward_0 07-07-2011 03:45 PM

make sure you stick the air filter in a bucket of piss after you get through mounting this fail. gauranteed no CEL

PunjabiPlaya 07-07-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiacre (Post 925150)
If I were you I'd route the CAI all the way through the bumper and out the fog housing.

http://www.fadingworld.com/Smilies/car-fail-5.jpg

MazdaASM 07-07-2011 03:50 PM

air straightener and proper maf housing size?

used ones can be had for $100 easily

silvapain 07-07-2011 04:04 PM

An intake isn't rocket science. Ideally you should have 2x the pipe diameter in straight pipe before and after the MAF to ensure the flow through the MAF is laminar; an airflow straightener helps some. That said, I haven't seen a single intake system for the MS3 that follows this general rule.

Just make the interior finish smooth, make the curves gentle, add a straightener, don't over-oil the filter, and adjust the MAF curve in ATR to compensate for any LTFT drifts.

Ace99899 07-07-2011 05:53 PM

75 dollars to make this thing. Yes i can fab other wise i wouldnt try... not that numbish
What im lacking is what size hole for the maF

Oh and haters will hate lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazdaASM (Post 925787)
air straightener and proper maf housing size?

used ones can be had for $100 easily

Im making the housing

Quote:

Originally Posted by backward_0 (Post 925781)
make sure you stick the air filter in a bucket of piss after you get through mounting this fail. gauranteed no CEL

You=fucking idiot. Making an intake isnt rocket science lol.

backward_0 07-07-2011 08:05 PM

You are must be a retard.
Cobb makes a short ram intake. NOT a CAI so if you plan on ripping someones design it probably won't be theirs.
If you do plan on fabricating your own parts i suggest you buy the proper tools for the job. One could very easily measure the maf housing with a digital caliper. OR you could SEARCH THE FUCKING FORUM
Further, fuck putting your shitty ass intake in a bucket of piss, you can pull your head out of your ass and replace it with this "intake" you plan on making.
Bitch.

Ace99899 07-07-2011 09:29 PM

Wow your mad very impressive. Don't get your feelings hurt little one. And I have the proper tools smart ass lol. Addressing your Cobb story here, cobbs short ram is the turbo inlet and a small short ram with a maf tube and a filter. I can follow that same design and just weld it together as one piece. Your getting frustrated at someone who wants to make there own parts lol, you'll see it but youll still hate on it so it's whatever lol. Go find something else to get mad about, like how many boxes of tampons your going to need to stop that bloody thing from bleeding.... Since it seems to be an issue I'll send you a box or two for christmas.
:You_Rock_Emoticon: your my hero

Oh and for searching the fourm, I looked. Prove me wrong and go find it for me.

Vater 07-07-2011 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backward_0 (Post 926129)
You are must be a retard.

Irony.

Ace99899 07-07-2011 09:47 PM

I let that go assuming someone would jump in on it lol.

backward_0 07-07-2011 10:27 PM

I need tapatalk. GL with your intake im sure it will be awesome.

I Love Brownies 07-08-2011 08:12 AM

Hey ace i know its not rocket science. Why dont you just remove your maf and measure the hole, hmmmm one that fabricates would have done that and not made himself look like such a cluck

Ace99899 07-08-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ms307nm (Post 926664)
Hey ace i know its not rocket science. Why dont you just remove your maf and measure the hole, hmmmm one that fabricates would have done that and not made himself look like such a cluck

Bc if you don't get it perfect it will run like dog shit. I made a template instead. I had precut templates from a buddy but they were to size of different brands. That's why I was asking but I just made one instead. For future reference but don't quote this, it's looks pretty damn close to the boush sensors but I could be wrong.

I Love Brownies 07-08-2011 10:16 AM

Thats why i said measure it. measure twice cut once. digital caliper? maybe you should invest in one if you dont already have one

Ace99899 07-08-2011 02:34 PM

I think your missing what I'm getting at. A friend has templates aready made to the exact size but they are done up by brand. That's why I was asking what brand bc then I would have the exact size without measuring and what not. But your right I would like to have a caliper.

I Love Brownies 07-08-2011 02:42 PM

this may or may not help you

StreetUnit.com - Premier MAZDASPEED Performance Specialists

Wildfire 07-12-2011 01:07 PM

The actual making of the tube that carries the air isn't the hard part. It's the MAF sensor that is a PITA. You have to adjust the location of the MAF depending on the length of your tube and the amount of air flowing through as to not cause a CEL. That's where all the research $ comes from.

Otherwise, route it into the cabin of the car...right near the A/C vent so you get constant cool air.

Fatguy729 07-12-2011 01:12 PM

No, this is not me


adlpb 07-12-2011 01:29 PM

The creator of that video later found out what the word Hydrolock meant

Ace99899 07-12-2011 02:43 PM

LOL at that video. Mine wont be a true cold air. Really it will be kind of a long short ram lol. Wont make it point down.

Fatguy729 07-12-2011 02:57 PM

but, but... it looks store bought!

Design 07-12-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvapain (Post 925806)
An intake isn't rocket science. Ideally you should have 2x the pipe diameter in straight pipe before and after the MAF to ensure the flow through the MAF is laminar; an airflow straightener helps some. That said, I haven't seen a single intake system for the MS3 that follows this general rule.

Just make the interior finish smooth, make the curves gentle, add a straightener, don't over-oil the filter, and adjust the MAF curve in ATR to compensate for any LTFT drifts.

The problem is that the twists and bends in a CAI can still create turbulence prior to the MAF (as evident in the Gen 1 MSCAI). And while a straightener could help, laminar airflow is influenced by velocity, volume, and intake pipe diameter; or so I'm told.

Unless I had a good understanding of flow dynamics, I personally wouldn't be meddling with the intake. JMHO.

Ace99899 07-15-2011 10:13 AM

It's not a cold. It's a long short ram lol


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