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| Not Ranked : 0 score From the general consensus i've gathered on here it seems as though the intake, racepipe and CBE are okay without upgraded fuel pump and tune, but your probably going to want to upgrade your fuel pump if you go the downpipe route. But hey what the hell do I know lol |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score They are a very trustworthy company. Likely they have experimented with this before. DP seems to be a little sketchy though. I hope you have a strong stock FP. lol. If you wanna be safe do the sri+tip. Its a great ...scratch that....fantastic mod for this car! The stock TIP is a pancake! MMMMM pancakes! You can get away with the testpipe because it just removes a cat and its not censored so you will be fine on the CEL side. I had a testpipe/catback (magnaflow) installed before my AP and no issues. Not a big gain at all though. So I went back to stock and it feels the same if not a tad better actually.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Do the 2011's have any way to log fuel pressure yet? If so, you could get a downpipe and monitor it. If not, you should wait.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I had a sri and fmic and needed a fp. I would take their advice with a grain of salt |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I would listen to Cobb and the research they did on the Pu's. I believe some people reported on fuel pressure drops from just an intake...although this might be a rare occurrence. With that said, I would rather be safe than sorry if you are going to mod your car. I am sure intake and tp is fine but make sure you can monitor the fuel pressure somehow. Once you go after the dp and intercooler upgrades, definitely make sure you have a fuel pump. It's not worth the risk imho without proper failsafe mods. Oh yeah, make sure you donate.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I know a genpu owner who with just the corksport intake + inlet and the ap now needs a fp. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score if you wanna run the Ap to it's full potential you need a fp. I had intake/tip/ets tmic/ tp/ with no fp problems. You can use an ultra gauge to monitor fp, it doesn't log but you can watch it and it will show any significant fp drops. It may not show the really fast dips though.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score 2011 AP is almost out, just wait and get that before any hardware. You need to monitor your mods on this car, they can be finicky and there's no way to tell what one car is going to do compared to another. Be smart about it and monitor first.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score A cbe isn't gonna do anything aside from chane your sound signature. And to add, I haven't seen any proof that TIP actually grants any gains at all.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Why not just get the fuel pump or internal first, then you can mod worry free.. Why ninjas be so drawnin on gettin dem fuel pumps upgraded, cuz ain't no power gain? Get over it....
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no tune... no fp...
and I had ther 2.5 inch tip on my car... sold it cause of 35r... car felt faster with stock tip reinstalled... lol oh... didnt realize this is meant for 2010+
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I ran the CS TIP/SRI, 80mm CBE with secondary cat test pipe, and I didn't have any problem. Fuel pump pressure was always in the safe zone, but still not 1700+psi. I think you'll be fine but you really have to watch that downpipe. Same with FMIC - they promote boost creep.
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__________________ ![]() ![]() Inb4 85% silicone core. It's better than aluminum. What's you buddy's ex wife trap? I <3 SP63, but that port job though... "The coolant must be evaporating." Bye Felicia "Exclusivity" - CP-enis Demodded. The Seals |
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__________________ ![]() ![]() Inb4 85% silicone core. It's better than aluminum. What's you buddy's ex wife trap? I <3 SP63, but that port job though... "The coolant must be evaporating." Bye Felicia "Exclusivity" - CP-enis Demodded. The Seals |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Thanks for all the info. I will just do a fp too. Who has the best one?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Just wait and get the AP so that you can monitor what's going on. Don't trust all the "my car is awesome and never ever has a problem ever" crap. Most of the time, you can't tell when your pump pressures are falling lower than safe levels. Be smart about your mod path, please. Before you start switching pumps or internals, you need something to monitor and make sure that it's working right anyway.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score One thing we do say is every car is different. Our shop car is running a FMIC, turbo back exhaust, and some other goodies and our pump is keeping up according the data logs. We have seen cars that have had an intake installed and had some pump problems. On average you can get 2-3 power mods on a speed before you need to add a pump. I agree with Nate, if you are going to mod your car get something to monitor your system. It is the best insurance against replacing your engine. -Derrick |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Glad to say i now have experience with this. I have a sri, tip, testpipe, resonator delete with no muffler (loud as shit), and i just got my ap today!!! I monitored boost for like 5 min but then switched to monitor my fp. I run the shit out of my car and with the stock fp i stayed 1600+ on WOT the whole time. I run it as STAGE 1 sf+tip and it run fine. nxt mod rmm very very soon! |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score im waiting for AP to come out before i do anything if there's anything ive learned about the genpu's weak ass fuel pump, is too monitor that shit before putting parts on..
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I just thought of something. I know that you 2011 guys are wanting to add parts now now now, just like the rest of us, so instead of power parts that you can't monitor yet, here's a list of very helpful parts to start with if you just can't wait: rear motor mount side motor mounts Redline MTL or Ford Motorcraft trans fluid lowering springs and shocks or coilovers (you will need adjustable rear camber arms for this) lightweight wheels solid shifter bushings + shift kit or full replacement short throw shifter oil catch can and EGR delete rear sway bar catback exhaust or res delete (more for sound than power) I'm sure that there are a few to add, but those are just off the top of my head. Though these parts won't necessarily add power, they will help you put it to the ground, shift better, help the longevity or your car, handle better, or something along those lines. This list may help you hold off until the 2011 AP arrives so that you can monitor your car to be sure that it's not being a bastard.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Id recommend leaving your factory gear fluid in until at least your 2nd or 3rd oil change if you choose. This will be better for the transmission in the long run. I also heard using the Ford Motorcrap trans fluid can break down the shifter forks. But this is only what I have heard. Everything else on that list DO..NOW!
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Um, where exactly do you get your info? You're the same guy that jumped in a thread saying that you don't need an OCC. My 2nd gear went out at 6k miles, having hardly missed a shift. The trans fluid had to be changed when it was rebuilt, I switched to Redline MTL, never looked back.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score thanks. definitly gonna wait for the ap. ordered the eibach springs and cpe 75rmm yeatersday.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I wouldn't do an egr delete until you can clear the light.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Fuck the light, save your intake. Put some tape over that shit or something.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score when will you learn? even if you have an AP and you clear the EGR insufficient flow CEL thats all it does... when you go to get an inspection your car will fail if you live in a state or province that does not only a visual inspection but a OBD inspection as well.. clearing the light just clears the light from showing but the EGR sensor will show "NOT READY" AND thus you will fail inspection. not to mention I have my egr deleted for too long now and the CEL doesnt even bother me. I could prob shut the light itself off but I don't care.
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