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 Old 04-23-2011, 12:58 PM   #41
 
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I had decent fuel pressure before I got my pump also.

I didn't trust the stock fuel pump to continue to provide the pressure necessary to run mods.

It was worth the cash to me not to have to monitor my fuel pressure daily.
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Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx View Post
when will you learn?

even if you have an AP and you clear the EGR insufficient flow CEL thats all it does...

when you go to get an inspection your car will fail if you live in a state or province that does not only a visual inspection but a OBD inspection as well..

clearing the light just clears the light from showing but the EGR sensor will show "NOT READY" AND thus you will fail inspection.

not to mention I have my egr deleted for too long now and the CEL doesnt even bother me.
I could prob shut the light itself off but I don't care.
Take a fucking pill buddy. I never said it cured anything. Lol. I just wouldn't be able to live with the light. Hence, "clear the light" was what I said.
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Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx View Post
if you don't have anything helpful to say.....

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donate and buy a fuel pump why do all those mods and not get one?
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Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx View Post
when will you learn?

even if you have an AP and you clear the EGR insufficient flow CEL thats all it does...

when you go to get an inspection your car will fail if you live in a state or province that does not only a visual inspection but a OBD inspection as well..

clearing the light just clears the light from showing but the EGR sensor will show "NOT READY" AND thus you will fail inspection.

not to mention I have my egr deleted for too long now and the CEL doesnt even bother me.
I could prob shut the light itself off but I don't care.
No. Most states allow 1 sensor to be NOT READY.
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donate and buy a fuel pump why do all those mods and not get one?
Well, perhaps, they are like me, and caught between two things, as i see it, if i were to upgrade the FP, I would be a long time waiting before I had any more money to put towards upgrades. I am currently thinking of going with a RP/TP, RMM, TIP and maybe a BPV and all that together is still not near the cost of the FP. I understand the logic, but the logical route would probably not be as much fun, at least till something explodes.
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Save yourself the money on the BPV.
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yeah but atleast if you get the fuel pump theres no risk in you blowing any parts, the other way around theres alot of risk.
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yeah but atleast if you get the fuel pump theres no risk in you blowing any parts, the other way around theres alot of risk.
I beg to differ. There is always a chance, even with a upgraded fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by forcedinduktion View Post
I beg to differ. There is always a chance, even with a upgraded fuel pump.

With all due respect, you are arguing semantics there. ^
The risk of having a problem with your car dramatically declines if you can keep up with fuel demands.


Here are the facts and figures:

The company who has the most dyno time with the car is Cobb.
As soon as you remove one of the catalysts, you are considered (by Cobb) to be stage 2.
All of Cobb's stage 2 calibrations command 1750 psi fuel pressure (and an upgraded fuel pump).
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Thank you for stating the obvious. Im just saying...he said there is NO chance of blowing, dont want anyone go be getting incorrect info.
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If I was stating the obvious, I would have said...

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I beg to differ. There is always a chance, even with a upgraded fuel pump.
On that note, you may think about getting a pump before giving modification advice.
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Originally Posted by rfinkle2 View Post
If I was stating the obvious, I would have said...



On that note, you may think about getting a pump before giving modification advice.
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And you know I dont have one how....?
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Originally Posted by forcedinduktion View Post
And you know I dont have one how....?
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ive been runnin a sti and rp for a few months now and no issues


Given Nate asked us to stay on topic...

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Originally Posted by wankular View Post
Do the 2011's have any way to log fuel pressure yet? If so, you could get a downpipe and monitor it. If not, you should wait.
Ultragauge.com... best $59 i ever spent, and why would anyone install a downpipe as their first mod? everyone knows that the intake is the easiest weak link to free up some power, and it wont kill your FP
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if you wanna run the Ap to it's full potential you need a fp.
and supporting mods, stock, + CDFP +AP doesnt mean your taking full advantage of what the car can do, meaning you cant go stage 2 with a stock everything excluding fuel pump internals, the turbo wont like trying to hit 21psi with a stock intake&exhaust

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2011 AP is almost out, just wait and get that before any hardware. You need to monitor your mods on this car, they can be finicky and there's no way to tell what one car is going to do compared to another. Be smart about it and monitor first.
^this, id monitor everything you do to that car, because people have reported low fuel pressure with only an intake

Originally Posted by spoof3r View Post
I ran the CS TIP/SRI, 80mm CBE with secondary cat test pipe, and I didn't have any problem. Fuel pump pressure was always in the safe zone, but still not 1700+psi.
the fuel pump safe zone is above 1600psi @WOT, so i doubt your in the "safe zone", cobb reports that even with a sri and a testpipe the majority of genpus need pump internals

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Just wait and get the AP so that you can monitor what's going on. Don't trust all the "my car is awesome and never ever has a problem ever" crap. Most of the time, you can't tell when your pump pressures are falling lower than safe levels. Be smart about your mod path, please.

Before you start switching pumps or internals, you need something to monitor and make sure that it's working right anyway.
cheap option once again would be an ultragauge... unless your lucky and are a beta AP tester lol
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No. Most states allow 1 sensor to be NOT READY.
it depends on what sensor smart ass... and egr is not one of those.
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it depends on what sensor smart ass... and egr is not one of those.
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ur an angry little fella.
yupp, soooo little.

too bad you don't have the balls to say that to my face let alone anyones.

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Originally Posted by SpeedSixxx View Post
yupp, soooo little.

too bad you don't have the balls to say that to my face let alone anyones.

have a good life little man.

i'm done with you.
I don't understand why you take the internet so seriously.

People say you're cool in person, so idk.

Why do you feel the need to constantly ethug?

Not trying to be a dick but I seem to recall you getting banned for shit exactly like this on more than 1 occasion.
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Originally Posted by Speed3eak View Post
I don't understand why you take the internet so seriously.

People say you're cool in person, so idk.

Why do you feel the need to constantly ethug?

Not trying to be a dick but I seem to recall you getting banned for shit exactly like this on more than 1 occasion.
I get both sides of the story, and sometimes have to step back from the screen, (not literally), and try to remember that people sometimes type shit they don't mean, or are having a bad day etc.

I guess it comes down to the type of personality behind the keyboard (I'm a bit inclined to let things get under my skin like @SpeedSixxx), that makes people react the way they do.
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Okay, maybe I should rephrase that.

I've had realgib tell me I made myself look like a fool.

It really pissed me off, but that didn't change the fact that he was right.

I understand saying "fuck off" or "fuck you" and all of that. It's why I like msf. People are assholes but they're honest so w/e.

What I don't understand is why you have to get in pissing match every time someone says "oh you're an angry little one"

What's wrong with the response "yeah yeah fuck you too"? Rather than getting all ethug? "oh you wouldn't say that to anybody's face, blah blah look at my e penis"

idk, idc, I'll leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by Speed3eak View Post
Okay, maybe I should rephrase that.

I've had realgib tell me I made myself look like a fool.

It really pissed me off, but that didn't change the fact that he was right.

I understand saying "fuck off" or "fuck you" and all of that. It's why I like msf. People are assholes but they're honest so w/e.

What I don't understand is why you have to get in pissing match every time someone says "oh you're an angry little one"

What's wrong with the response "yeah yeah fuck you too"? Rather than getting all ethug? "oh you wouldn't say that to anybody's face, blah blah look at my e penis"

idk, idc, I'll leave it at that.
My e-penis is probably bigger than my real penis, so that is the only one I'd ever show...

Point well taken @Speed3eak.
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lucky. I have to keep my epenis hidden cuz it's covered in warts.
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lucky. I have to keep my epenis hidden cuz it's covered in warts.
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yupp, soooo little.

too bad you don't have the balls to say that to my face let alone anyones.

have a good life little man.

i'm done with you.
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Originally Posted by Speed3eak View Post
I don't understand why you take the internet so seriously.

People say you're cool in person, so idk.

Why do you feel the need to constantly ethug?

Not trying to be a dick but I seem to recall you getting banned for shit exactly like this on more than 1 occasion.
lol, dude there is nothing "e-thug" about my response.

the can0odian is a dick and if you read what he wrote to me before that it was unwarranted and ridiculous.

I never start convos with the kid and yet he calls me names and starts shit.

what i wrote is true and it goes for a lot of dudes on here.

in person they would never say the shit they say on here to people faces.

it's just funny that my response sparks up comments like yours. trying to point out that i'm an e-thug and I should chill.....

remember it's not about me...it's about tokay444 and he child like comments.

thats all........ I behave myself and I have been on msf but when guys like tokay come and start shit FOR NO REASON I have all the right in the world and msf to set him straight.


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lol, dude there is nothing "e-thug" about my response.

the can0odian is a dick and if you read what he wrote to me before that it was unwarranted and ridiculous.

I never start convos with the kid and yet he calls me names and starts shit.

what i wrote is true and it goes for a lot of dudes on here.

in person they would never say the shit they say on here to people faces.

it's just funny that my response sparks up comments like yours. trying to point out that i'm an e-thug and I should chill.....

remember it's not about me...it's about tokay444 and he child like comments.

thats all........ I behave myself and I have been on msf but when guys like tokay come and start shit FOR NO REASON I have all the right in the world and msf to set him straight.


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yupp, soooo little.

too bad you don't have the balls to say that to my face let alone anyones.

have a good life little man.

i'm done with you.
First of all, thanks for the photo.

Secondly, you did e-thug, and you are beginning to sound like ms3077. Blaming other people for calling you out - saying "he started it" doesn't mean it's okay to start a pissing match.

Tokay is gonna say what he's gonna say. You can't justify shit using that as an excuse.

Tell me what these quotes make you think of:

"I'm done with you"

"too bad you don't have the balls to say that to my face let alone anyones."

Does that say "chill" to you?

To me that says "takes the internet too seriously"

I'm just giving you a heads up because that attitude is 100% e-thug in my book.
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Originally Posted by Speed3eak View Post
First of all, thanks for the photo.

Secondly, you did e-thug, and you are beginning to sound like ms3077. Blaming other people for calling you out - saying "he started it" doesn't mean it's okay to start a pissing match.

Tokay is gonna say what he's gonna say. You can't justify shit using that as an excuse.

Tell me what these quotes make you think of:

"I'm done with you"

"too bad you don't have the balls to say that to my face let alone anyones."

Does that say "chill" to you?

To me that says "takes the internet too seriously"

I'm just giving you a heads up because that attitude is 100% e-thug in my book.
lol, call it e-thug if you will partner but thats honestly just me.

I do re read my posts right after I submit them and even the day after..
I sometimes change things when I know it wasn't right or over the top.

again, it is about tokay not me.

when he can grow up and stop himself from reading what I wrote to another msf member and then go off yelling at me or e-thuggin to me himself then I won't have the urge to respond to his childishness.

I would be a true e-thug if I did what he did, I just respond to the nonsense. I don't start it.

maybe thats a tad child like of me but thats my right as a US citizen (LOL) and I'll gladly excursive that right when needed.

and one more bit of info.

this kid tokay has been pulling the same shit for a couple months now in many threads I post on so at some point I feel the need to "e-thug" back at him if you will.

and your welcome for the pic!
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Lol, what do I have to do with this again?
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My statement holds true. You jumped in saying whatever the fuck you said to me (tl;dr), because you're on my huge Canadian cock for whatever reason (would totally say that and everything else to your face), telling me I'm wrong. When I'm not. I never said an AP would clear the code. I said it would clear the light. Plain and simple, you had no reason to get all bent out of shape about me advice.
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Um, where exactly do you get your info? You're the same guy that jumped in a thread saying that you don't need an OCC. My 2nd gear went out at 6k miles, having hardly missed a shift. The trans fluid had to be changed when it was rebuilt, I switched to Redline MTL, never looked back.
Right. If you replace the gear oil with the correct fluid you are golden. If not, your needle bearings are fucked. That happened to a buddy of mine that replaced his fluid with the Ford Motorcraft. His needle bearings went to shit. Had to have his tranny taken apart and rebuilt. Car only has 37,xxx miles on the clock.
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^man, one instance of ford fluid and a busted tranny does not an epidemic make. i've had mine in for close to 10k now, no issues and loads of people on here use the motorcraft stuff with no issues.

relating your anecdote and telling us to keep an ear open for trans issues would be a more reasonable response than saying the motorcraft stuff is shit..

just saying.

the motorcraft fluid is within spec for our transmissions.. sometimes they just break.. but i will keep my ears open after your warning, so thanks..
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I never said it is shit. People don't read on the internet apparently. I did say it turned his needle bearings shit though. But thanks for playing. I just couldn't understand why his tranny was so messed up at 37,000 miles. Could have been anything really. But the shop pointed the finger at the fluid he put in it. But yes, the trans in our cars needs to be taken well care of. Just a fair warning... if youre needle bearings go, it's most likely the fluid. Thats all.
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I'd wager a bet that it was contaminents entering the tranny during the fluid change that pootched the bearing. Not the fluid. That's lunacy.
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